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Leyland’s bullpen mistakes haven’t helped the Tigers’ cause this October

By Michael Betzold
– October 8, 2013
The Detroit Tigers have never lost a first round series in the Jim Leyland era.

Everything that is infuriating about the way managers these days handle their pitching staffs was on display in the Detroit Tigers’ wretched Game Two loss to Oakland in the ALDS.
You can blame Jim Leyland, and many will, for his illogical late-inning decisions, but they were not much different from those most modern managers make.
First mistake: taking Justin Verlander out after seven outstanding innings just because he had thrown 116 pitches. During the regular season this might make sense, but with any post-season loss a potential killer, why would you take out your best starting pitcher (a title Verlander has regained in the last month or so) when he is showing no signs of tiring and still has gas left in his tank? At least run him out in the eighth until he shows signs of fatigue.
A generation ago, a manager who wanted to remove a starter from a scoreless tie after seven innings would have had to bring in a squad of police to do so. Imagine the reactions of Jack Morris or Bob Gibson. Before the pitch count became a pitch limit, starters would throw 130 or 140 pitches and not even notice it. But Verlander and other contemporary pitchers are rarely allowed to finish games and thus don’t have a burning desire to do so. They willingly yield to others to finish their jobs.
To start the eighth, Leyland brought in Drew Smyly to pitch to a left-handed batter and turn Coco Crisp around to his weaker side. Good move. Smyly is the club’s best bullpen option against lefties. His stats all year prove that.
Second mistake: Leyland brings in Al Albuquerque to pitch to Josh Donaldson. Why? If he wanted to summon a right-hander, which made sense in that situation, why not use his best reliever against righties, Jose Veras (right-handed batters hit .164 against him!)?
Third mistake: He keeps Albuquerque in to pitch the ninth. In this situation, you should use your best reliever, who is arguably Benoit. Why didn’t he? Because Benoit is the anointed closer, and by the superstitions currently in vogue, he must be preserved for a closer situation. In these days of advanced analytics and sophisticated statistics, that’s backwards thinking. Of course, there was no closer situation in this game because Albuquerque allowed the winning run to get on base — hardly surprising since opposing batters had a .341 OBP against him (versus .268 for Benoit and .282 for Veras).
Baseball is the only sport I’ve ever heard of where it’s now forbidden by custom not to use your best available players to prevent a loss because they must be kept in reserve to finish up a win. Shouldn’t you first win the game before you try to save it?
And actually, save is a misnomer: the point at which the game needed to be “saved” was in the seventh, eighth, and ninth innings. You “save” someone who is drowning by pulling him out of the water, not by waiting until he is resting on shore and then holding him down so he doesn’t slide back in!
Fourth mistake: Bases loaded and no outs and Leyland brings in Rick Porcello! The game is probably already lost, but this move seals it. Opposing batters hit .270 against Porcello this season. Veras and Benoit are still sitting idly in the pen while Oakland gleefully gets a gift win. Even Anibal Sanchez and Doug Fister could have been used in this spot in bygone days to get a few batters out, and still have had a day or two to rest before their starts.
Thanks, Jim. But the sad thing is that a lot of other managers might have made at least a couple of the same four mistakes. It’s in vogue to not put your best relievers in the game when the game is on the line because you just gotta save them for when you might have a two- or three-run lead in the last inning. Head-scratching stuff, and to me it’s the most annoying thing in the game. Not to mention the Tigers’ most obvious Achilles heel: a bullpen of question marks handled by an inflexible, stubborn manager.
 

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IMO it just doesn't matter. If Detroit's fielders can not hit, the bullpen is the least of the worries.

You use Benoit and then what do you have to close? And are you willing to use him more than one inning? Again if Detroit had been playing with the lead I would agree but the pitiful offense just isn't helping Detroit cause.
 

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The offence is shit but it's about keeping your chances alive. .....
 

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Yet if anyone else blames Leyland.. This fool is the first to jump on them.. Gofigure..
 
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Hey, Captain Mumbles. Max is a starter, NOT a damn relief pitcher.
Ya, Vic-tor just saved your ass, maybe.
 

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Baseball is the only sport I’ve ever heard of where it’s now forbidden by custom not to use your best available players to prevent a loss

Wrong
 

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This is a 5 game series and you wanted Verlander to over extend himself? I know he can pitch very high but I am sure Leyland was thinking "what if this goes to 5 games? we certainly will need Verlander."

can't fault him for Detroit's total lack of offense. Minus the 3 run homer last night
 

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Betzold is welcome to his opinions, but the last time I checked, a team can't win a game with ZERO FREAKING RUNS!!!

And as for pulling Verlander.... he now has to pitch Thursday. Aren't we glad Leyland didn't rag him out with 135 pitches?
 

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Ive been saying it forever bullpen management is jimmys biggest weakness, but overall JL is a good manager.
 

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Porcello should have came when New Mexico did. And stayed in till it was over, or came out for Benoit with a lead. JV gave more than enough. No need to run him out there again and have it turn south. Like it did multiple times during the season in similar circumstances.
 

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In hindsight, I thought if Leyland was going to use Porcello, it should be to start the 9th inning, not with bases juiced and no outs. He already got 2 outs from Alburquerque in the 8th ... running him back out for the 9th was playing with fire, and he got burned.

But again, it's all moot if the Tigers can't score.
 

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Yeah, not scoring kinda cancelled out everything. But Amazing Al in a close game seems like a bad idea, always.
 

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Gotta be hard to successfully manage a bullpen with the tools out there he has
to work with.

Too true. Hard to look like a genius and grab the right bullpen ace when you have mostly two-of-clubs pitchers out there.
 

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Genius? Up by four runs in the Eighth and he pulls enough pitching changes to load the bases for Boston and then makes the move so Benoit could serve up a meatball to Ortiz. Genius.

Game 2 loss is on Jimmy.
 
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Genius? Up by four runs in the Eighth and he pulls enough pitching changes to load the bases for Boston and then makes the move so Benoit could serve up a meatball to Ortiz. Genius.

Game 2 loss is on Jimmy.
:agree: Un-fucking real.
 

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Game 2 loss is on Jimmy.

I am pissed, but it's on Benoit WAY MORE than it is on Leyland. Ortiz hadn't done much in his career off Benoit, so I can't really argue the move. It was Benoit who grooved a fastball right down the middle. And did Avila call for a first-pitch fastball to a guy who was obviously sitting dead-red? Then some blame goes to him, too. And earlier, Leyland brought in Smyly to face a lefty, a reasonable move, and Drew walks the guy. A big no-no.
 

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Genius? Up by four runs in the Eighth and he pulls enough pitching changes to load the bases for Boston and then makes the move so Benoit could serve up a meatball to Ortiz. Genius.

Game 2 loss is on Jimmy.


Couldnt had said it better myself. Pick ONE pitcher and dont pull him after ONE hit. Shouldve left veras in with 2 right handed hitters coming up after ellsbury.

How do you not have a lefty ready in case pedroia got on and loaded the bases for papi? Oh because they used smyly for fuckin ellsbury. Jimmys an idiot!!
 

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I am pissed, but it's on Benoit WAY MORE than it is on Leyland. Ortiz hadn't done much in his career off Benoit, so I can't really argue the move. It was Benoit who grooved a fastball right down the middle. And did Avila call for a first-pitch fastball to a guy who was obviously sitting dead-red? Then some blame goes to him, too. And earlier, Leyland brought in Smyly to face a lefty, a reasonable move, and Drew walks the guy. A big no-no.


I usually agree with you howie, but....not this time.....it is harder for a lefty to hit a HR off a lefty than a rightie. I dont care who it is.....the ONE BIG bopper on their team came up with the bases juiced and down 4.....anything but a HR is ok. Would of rather had coke come in and walk a run in....then bring benoit in to face the rightie napoli. Smyly shouldnt had been used vs ellsbury....veras shouldve stayed in. Too many moves.
 

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And lets not forget....he brings benoit in for a 4 out save.....one pitch to papi and then he gets napoli.....and he cant come out for the 9th? Wtf? He faced TWO batters and one only faced ONE pitch.
 
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