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You’re only tolerant of homosexuals who vomit forth nonsense in line with your delusions.

Most of America would rather vote for Biden than Drumpf. That’s why he lost bigly, even if he’s too much of a crybaby snowflake Napoleon wannabe to admit it.

For the record, I’d like to vote for somebody who is not a piece of shit. That’s why I voted for Biden, who is not a piece of shit.
I actually like the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. Keep the shit to yourself as far as queers go. Damn I guess you’re still not ashamed of yourself for voting for this most embarrassing and incompetent administration ever. You might grow up one of these days.
 

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Notice olé JP did nothing to stop that talk
 

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You’re only tolerant of homosexuals who vomit forth nonsense in line with your delusions.

Most of America would rather vote for Biden than Drumpf. That’s why he lost bigly, even if he’s too much of a crybaby snowflake Napoleon wannabe to admit it.

For the record, I’d like to vote for somebody who is not a piece of shit. That’s why I voted for Biden, who is not a piece of shit.

Define tolerant. I don’t have any I’ll will towards any of them. I have no I’ll will towards transsexuals either. That is tolerance. I believe they are free to be whatever they want.

Do I believe that homosexuality is good for them? The answer is no. They are free to do what they want.

So let’s pretend Biden is not a piece of shit. Why didn’t you say he wasn’t a failure?

Would you rather a piece of shit but the country to do well…or a nice guy but the country to fail?

BTW, your vote is a complete failure.
 

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I actually like the “don’t ask don’t tell” policy. Keep the shit to yourself as far as queers go. Damn I guess you’re still not ashamed of yourself for voting for this most embarrassing and incompetent administration ever. You might grow up one of these days.

Pretty sure I dont need to take advice from some assbackward internet troll who still thinks that advocating people go back into the closet and calling gays queers is acceptable in modern society.

Also: nobody asked you.

Also: Most of America that voted, voted for Biden.
 

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Pretty sure I dont need to take advice from some assbackward internet troll who still thinks that advocating people go back into the closet and calling gays queers is acceptable in modern society.

Also: nobody asked you.

Also: Most of America that voted, voted for Biden.
Too bad in a constitutional republic , that isn’t the end all be all . The electoral college , brilliantly designed I might add , allows all people an equal say rather then a few large cities deciding what’s right for everyone. It makes politicians actually be held accountable from all over the country . Now just because there are a few Marxist strong holds in those shitholes doesn’t mean a hole lot and every pure democracy AKA mob rule has failed and will fail every time
 

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Too bad in a constitutional republic , that isn’t the end all be all . The electoral college , brilliantly designed I might add , allows all people an equal say rather then a few large cities deciding what’s right for everyone. It makes politicians actually be held accountable from all over the country . Now just because there are a few Marxist strong holds in those shitholes doesn’t mean a hole lot and every pure democracy AKA mob rule has failed and will fail every time
A couple of things...

The United States, like most modern nations, is neither a pure republic nor a pure democracy. Instead, it is a hybrid democratic republic. The main difference between a democracy and a republic is the extent to which the people control the process of making laws under each form of government. Please stop pushing the misnomer "constitutional republic" as if that was, in fact, accurate.

With respect to the electoral college and the claim of equal say, how is it fair that...

California has 17 times the land area of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 62 times the population of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 80 times the economic activity (GDP) of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

If the system were being designed today, such a design probably would be rejected as unfair. Part of the problem is that the Framers were dealing with less lopsided distribution. The ratio between the most populous state and the least populous state in 1789 was about 7 to 1. Today, the ratio between California and Wyoming's populations is 50 to 1.
 

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A couple of things...

The United States, like most modern nations, is neither a pure republic nor a pure democracy. Instead, it is a hybrid democratic republic. The main difference between a democracy and a republic is the extent to which the people control the process of making laws under each form of government. Please stop pushing the misnomer "constitutional republic" as if that was, in fact, accurate.

With respect to the electoral college and the claim of equal say, how is it fair that...

California has 17 times the land area of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 62 times the population of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 80 times the economic activity (GDP) of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

If the system were being designed today, such a design probably would be rejected as unfair. Part of the problem is that the Framers were dealing with less lopsided distribution. The ratio between the most populous state and the least populous state in 1789 was about 7 to 1. Today, the ratio between California and Wyoming's populations is 50 to 1.
Then any issue a Vermont has will never get addressed . No one has to worry about their concerns and their vote is meaningless
 

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Then any issue a Vermont has will never get addressed . No one has to worry about their concerns and their vote is meaningless
Not true, the make-up of the country has changed since 1789, The country in a lot of ways has found much fairer ways of conducting itself. Considering the differences between then and now, a country that espouses the ability to rise above ordinary forms of governance can certainly redesign a much fairer, far better representation of the current population status. I'm not advocating doing away with the EC, just reshaping/redesigning it to meet the challenges of today. (2022 is not 1789)
 

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Not true, the make-up of the country has changed since 1789, The country in a lot of ways has found much fairer ways of conducting itself. Considering the differences between then and now, a country that espouses the ability to rise above ordinary forms of governance can certainly redesign a much fairer, far better representation of the current population status. I'm not advocating doing away with the EC, just reshaping/redesigning it to meet the challenges of today. (2022 is not 1789)
absolutely true , and the EC does meet the challenges of today and its as fair as you can get . big population states have no clue about unique challenges of smaller states and politicians will cater to them at the expense of small ones
 

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A couple of things...

The United States, like most modern nations, is neither a pure republic nor a pure democracy. Instead, it is a hybrid democratic republic. The main difference between a democracy and a republic is the extent to which the people control the process of making laws under each form of government. Please stop pushing the misnomer "constitutional republic" as if that was, in fact, accurate.

With respect to the electoral college and the claim of equal say, how is it fair that...

California has 17 times the land area of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 62 times the population of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

California has 80 times the economic activity (GDP) of Vermont, yet still has the same representation in the Senate.

If the system were being designed today, such a design probably would be rejected as unfair. Part of the problem is that the Framers were dealing with less lopsided distribution. The ratio between the most populous state and the least populous state in 1789 was about 7 to 1. Today, the ratio between California and Wyoming's populations is 50 to 1.

To be a confederation of states, each state requires equal representation. I am fine with California leaving the US.
 

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Sty would you modify the EC ?
 

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The senate is based on equal representation the house on population and it’s a check and balance on the federal govt . It works today very well
 

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To be a confederation of states, each state requires equal representation. I am fine with California leaving the US.


You realize that california has something like the fifth biggest economy in the world, right?

Dumbest post perhaps ever.
 

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absolutely true , and the EC does meet the challenges of today and its as fair as you can get . big population states have no clue about unique challenges of smaller states and politicians will cater to them at the expense of small ones

Small
Population states have no clue about the unique challenges of big population states either.

Fish out of water works both ways.
 

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Small
Population states have no clue about the unique challenges of big population states either.

Fish out of water works both ways.
And exactly why the electoral college works because of both unique challenges
 

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You realize that california has something like the fifth biggest economy in the world, right?

Dumbest post perhaps ever.
of course I realize it. I would be completely fine having them leave. Their policies would doom the state. The money would flee the state.
 

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of course I realize it. I would be completely fine having them leave. Their policies would doom the state. The money would flee the state.

No, you didnt realize it, and now you’re passing along your opinion as if it’s fact.

My opinion is that if either texas or California leave the union then the us is in great danger of collapsing.

On the other hand, Texas is run by an imbecile who cant keep his own power grid running, and California is not.
 

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