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Jay Gruden Sucks As Head Coach

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I don't understand why you don't think it's both of their faults. It's not like rg3 doesn't ever practice or study film. But he's not learning. Sure some of that is him but some of it is the HC too.
How so? Again, if the student bucks the teacher, how is that the teachers fault? And this is now his third teacher he has had issues with. (Shanahans, Gruden, Cavanaugh)
 

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I don't understand why you don't think it's both of their faults. It's not like rg3 doesn't ever practice or study film. But he's not learning. Sure some of that is him but some of it is the HC too.


Griffin has already gotten ONE HC fired. He has another on the hot seat because HE refuses to adjust. You can practice all you want, and look at film until you are blue in the face. But if you are practicing the wrong things, and learning NOTHING from watching film... how is that the coaches fault?? Gruden did everything short of kissing his ass to try and make this thing work for RG3. Hell he might have even done that. But face it, aside from 7 on 7 drills, Griffin has looked LOST. And that aint on the coach.
 

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Griffin has already gotten ONE HC fired. He has another on the hot seat because HE refuses to adjust. You can practice all you want, and look at film until you are blue in the face. But if you are practicing the wrong things, and learning NOTHING from watching film... how is that the coaches fault?? Gruden did everything short of kissing his ass to try and make this thing work for RG3. Hell he might have even done that. But face it, aside from 7 on 7 drills, Griffin has looked LOST. And that aint on the coach.
Not after 4 years and multiple coaches.
 

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Griffin has already gotten ONE HC fired. He has another on the hot seat because HE refuses to adjust. You can practice all you want, and look at film until you are blue in the face. But if you are practicing the wrong things, and learning NOTHING from watching film... how is that the coaches fault?? Gruden did everything short of kissing his ass to try and make this thing work for RG3. Hell he might have even done that. But face it, aside from 7 on 7 drills, Griffin has looked LOST. And that aint on the coach.

And I think some of it is on the coach. I'm not sitting here trying to defend rg3. I think we should just go ahead and cut him I'm ready to move on but that doesn't mean gruden is free of blame.
 

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And I think some of it is on the coach. I'm not sitting here trying to defend rg3. I think we should just go ahead and cut him I'm ready to move on but that doesn't mean gruden is free of blame.


The only thing I blame Gruden for is not having the spine to move away from RG3 MONTHS ago. Other than that Bobs problems at this point are all of his own doing.
 

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It gets funny watching the fire the coach posts EVERY year.
 

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i think it is waaaaaaay to early to fire a coach . who in their right mind would come here to coach if you give him 2 yrs or less to get his program and players he wants in place . sorry but it isnt the right thing to do

this doesnt mean he wont fail but geez doesnt he get more then 17 games ?
 

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Looked to me like Gruden and his coaching staff put together a helluva game plan yesterday. Coaches coach, and players play. If some of the players had made just one or two more plays out there, the outcome of the game would have been totally different.

Amazing how some of see a game...
 

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gruden is poop and SM is poop because of kai
 

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really we cut an avg kicker and he is poop ? really ?

Skinsdad - just ignore it. Everything this guy posts borders on the absurd. Remember - he is the guy who still believes that SM will step down because of the situation with his wife. Also - it almost seems like he won't be pleased unless the Redskins make the playoffs this season which is just being ridiculous.
 

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i think it is waaaaaaay to early to fire a coach . who in their right mind would come here to coach if you give him 2 yrs or less to get his program and players he wants in place . sorry but it isnt the right thing to do

this doesnt mean he wont fail but geez doesnt he get more then 17 games ?

I truly believe that Gruden will get at least this season. After that? All depends. Anyhow - I have to laugh at your statement about who would coach this team in that situation. I will always remember how Marty badmouthed this team non-stop on ESPN yet coached them not much later. As bad as it may get - there will always be plenty of coaching candidates (some actually good) who will take that job primarily because there are very few of these jobs overall.
 

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i think it is waaaaaaay to early to fire a coach . who in their right mind would come here to coach if you give him 2 yrs or less to get his program and players he wants in place . sorry but it isnt the right thing to do

this doesnt mean he wont fail but geez doesnt he get more then 17 games ?

What if they finish 3-13 and show no signs of improvement? Would that be too early?
 

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What if they finish 3-13 and show no signs of improvement? Would that be too early?


NOt at all. BUt if we finish 3-13.. who do we hire as the new coach?? Who can we bring in that would guarantee they could bring back RG3?? Because you do realize if Gruden is fired and Griffin is still on the roster at the end of the season, Danny will have no qualms about keeping him and making him the starter again right??
 

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What if they finish 3-13 and show no signs of improvement? Would that be too early?

Not in my opinion since Gruden was hired before SM. If Gruden doesn't work out then SM should be the one primarily picking the coach (not Snyder nor Allen). If it occurred like that then you would hopefully be bringing in the right type of coach for the players on this roster & restarting correctly.

Now this could all change if Gruden & his team show promise (not necessarily a winning record) during the rest of this season which is entirely possible.
 

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NOt at all. BUt if we finish 3-13.. who do we hire as the new coach?? Who can we bring in that would guarantee they could bring back RG3?? Because you do realize if Gruden is fired and Griffin is still on the roster at the end of the season, Danny will have no qualms about keeping him and making him the starter again right??

I do realize that and it scares the shit out of me. That is the only reason I can see for him even being on the roster. But are they really dumb enough to spend $16 mill for another ride on the merry go round? SM is way too smart for that.
 

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I do realize that and it scares the shit out of me. That is the only reason I can see for him even being on the roster. But are they really dumb enough to spend $16 mill for another ride on the merry go round? SM is way too smart for that.


IF SM were really that smart and fully in control, he would have dealt Griffin for a 2020 7th rounder the second he cleared the medical hold. The fact that the coach has to come out and say WE will make the determination of what to do with him tells me that Dan still has a big voice in the decision room in at least some areas. And come on, you are talking about the man who gave Albert HAynesworth $46 million in guaranteed money AND signed off on trading away half a draft on a single player. Are we really going to ask how dumb can this franchise be??? LMAO
 

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i think it is waaaaaaay to early to fire a coach . who in their right mind would come here to coach if you give him 2 yrs or less to get his program and players he wants in place . sorry but it isnt the right thing to do

this doesnt mean he wont fail but geez doesnt he get more then 17 games ?

I didnt say fire him now. But if he doesnt get it together by the end of the year he shouldbe gone.
 

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I didnt say fire him now. But if he doesnt get it together by the end of the year he shouldbe gone.
So what is your definition of getting it together?
 
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