It's Time: The SilverSeahawk 16th Annual Seahawks Fans Draft Contest Is Here!

[Lineman16]

I would like to see us pick up some really big dudes in the middle like we had with in the Bryant years and speed on the edge which I feel we do have with Clark. Stopping the run with base D was never a problem those years.

 

[The Oldtimer]

I love how regular people act like since they have never heard of a player they must not be good. Secondly people say its a reach pick well in my opinion if that player probably wont be available the next time you up to pick then he probably isnt a reach and if he turns out to be a solid player years from now nobody will care where you picked him

Don't forget another unknown SDSU RB was picked 2nd overall in the 94 NFL draft. He turned out to be a damn good NFL RB.

 

[Cave_Johnson]

I was thinking Penny was undersized for some reason, but he's got a pretty solid frame for an NFL RB. Guess I was thinking too much of Donnel Pumphrey from SDSU last year. But then again Penny's brother is a RB for the Cards and is like 6'2'' 240 so probably should have figured Rashaad was pretty built.

 

[wazzu31]

A good thing about him too is he is a stud returner in case they lose Lockett next offseason

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

My opinion is that we should deal him if we don't think we can re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

If we hold on to him and don't re-sign him, that's a colossal failure IMO.

That’s true ... If we keep him this year we have to resign him, letting him walk would be terrible ...

 

[JMR]

Here are his rushing statistics against P5 schools + your alma matter, assuming it's Army:

ASU: 18 carries 216 yards 1 TD
Stanford: 32 carries 175 yards 1 TD
Army: 14 carries 221 yards 4 TD

Total: 64 carries 612 yards (9.7 YPC) 6 TDs

Yep, hard to argue with the production. I watched him the closest in the bowl game vs Army, and he was a monster but we don't usually field the fastest or biggest defense so I wasn't really sure what to think. He pretty much killed everyone last season except for a couple clunker games. The 7 KO return TDs is pretty amazing as well. The more I see, the more I like.

My opinion is that we should deal him if we don't think we can re-sign him to a reasonable contract.

If we hold on to him and don't re-sign him, that's a colossal failure IMO.

I can't agree with colossal failure because we would be getting another season of play from a HOF caliber FS and then most likely a 3rd round comp pick in '20. I would rather see us trade him for a 2nd rounder this year, but I don't think we lose in any scenario here outside of signing him to a long term deal only to see him get a career ending injury.

 

[JMR]

A good thing about him too is he is a stud returner in case they lose Lockett next offseason

The interesting thing here is that it sounds like there's a decent chance that 2018 will be the last season with kickoffs in the NFL. He can return punts as well though.

 

[JMR]

IMO, outside Barkley, he was the #2 best RB in the draft... I'm more surprised that they picked as well but Penny is obviously the guy they wanted... Not sure if he would've been there in the 2nd round... He's been climbing the draft boards...

Yeah, I think Michel also going in round 1 is probably a good indicator that this was our only shot at Penny (or Michel). I'm liking it more and more. This better light a fire under Prosise.

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Don't forget another unknown SDSU RB was picked 2nd overall in the 94 NFL draft. He turned out to be a damn good NFL RB.

 

[Podunkparte]

The stats say a RB picked in the 1st and a RB picked in any other round do not have the difference in numbers to justify their positions. This has been discussed for the last week, even on the radio, which is a fluent source of info for fans, let alone for the guys actually deciding on the selections.

This team has much wider holes in more important positions and they take a reach at a skill position in the 1st round? If this kid is anything less than a star RB its another bad 1st Rd pick. Give it 3 years and then tell me I'm wrong.

 

[JMR]

The stats say a RB picked in the 1st and a RB picked in any other round do not have the difference in numbers to justify their positions. This has been discussed for the last week, even on the radio, which is a fluent source of info for fans, let alone for the guys actually deciding on the selections.

This team has much wider holes in more important positions and they take a reach at a skill position in the 1st round? If this kid is anything less than a star RB its another bad 1st Rd pick. Give it 3 years and then tell me I'm wrong.

The stats also say a QB who is under 6' is not supposed to be good in the NFL, but RW is probably the #1 overall pick if you could re-do the '12 draft with current knowledge in hand.

I think before we conclude the team had other, more important holes to fill and wasted this pick on a RB, we should see how the rest of this plays out and then make a more informed assessment. Lots of drafting left to do, and the 1st round isn't the only spot in the draft where you can find major talent.

 

[Anointed One]

This team has much wider holes in more important positions and they take a reach at a skill position in the 1st round? If this kid is anything less than a star RB its another bad 1st Rd pick. Give it 3 years and then tell me I'm wrong.

I don't see the, "much wider holes" you're referring to that doesn't include a RB... I'm not as high on Carson as a lot of you are so I viewed the RB position a huge need for this team...

 

[blstoker]

I don't see the, "much wider holes" you're referring to that doesn't include a RB... I'm not as high on Carson as a lot of you are so I viewed the RB position a huge need for this team...

I had RB as the #1 need for the team for the draft. Absolutely no surprise they took a RB with their first pick.

 

[Anointed One]

I had RB as the #1 need for the team for the draft. Absolutely no surprise they took a RB with their first pick.

See what I posted on 1/4/18... I honestly didn't think we'd have a shot at him without a 2nd or 3rd rounder... I thought he would've been a great value pick there...

 

[blstoker]

The stats say a RB picked in the 1st and a RB picked in any other round do not have the difference in numbers to justify their positions.

That's exactly the opposite of what the stats say. Every running back taken in the 1st round over the last three years is averaging 1000 yards from scrimmage and 7 TDs a year. That's better than solid production from your first round pick.

Averages per season for players drafted in the first round vs. later rounds (last 3 years):

RD 1 - 245.7/1012.8/4.1/8.0 33.5/280.0/8.4/2.1 279.2/1292.8/4.6/10.1
Other - 53.4/219.9/4.1/1.4 12.2/98.9/8.1/0.4 65.6/318.8/4.9/1.8

Those aren't bad numbers for 1st rounder. Yes, you can get a gem in the later rounds, but you also get a lot of duds in those rounds as well. For every Alvin Kamarra, there's 4 Christine Michaels. And for every Christine Michael, there's 3 Thomas Browns.

So, to top it off, numbers per season by round for the last decade:

1 - 126.8/537.9/4.2/3.6 19.6/157.2/8.0/0.6
2 - 101.1/427.3/4.2/2.7 21.7/1734/8.0/0.7
3 - 80.6/348.5/4.3/2.3 16.1/131.5/8.2/0.6
4 - 37.7/153.3/4.1/1.0 10.7/87.4/8.1/0.4
5 - 28.8/121.8/4.2/0.8 6.3/47.5/7.5/0.2
6 - 23.6/95.8/4.1/0.6 4.7/37.2/8.0/0.1
7 - 16.1/66.1/4.1/0.4 3.7/27.9/7.5/0.1

As you can see, the production drops every round.

 

[The Oldtimer]

That's exactly the opposite of what the stats say. Every running back taken in the 1st round over the last three years is averaging 1000 yards from scrimmage and 7 TDs a year. That's better than solid production from your first round pick.

Averages per season for players drafted in the first round vs. later rounds (last 3 years):

RD 1 - 245.7/1012.8/4.1/8.0 33.5/280.0/8.4/2.1 279.2/1292.8/4.6/10.1
Other - 53.4/219.9/4.1/1.4 12.2/98.9/8.1/0.4 65.6/318.8/4.9/1.8

Those aren't bad numbers for 1st rounder. Yes, you can get a gem in the later rounds, but you also get a lot of duds in those rounds as well. For every Alvin Kamarra, there's 4 Christine Michaels. And for every Christine Michael, there's 3 Thomas Browns.

So, to top it off, numbers per season by round for the last decade:

1 - 126.8/537.9/4.2/3.6 19.6/157.2/8.0/0.6
2 - 101.1/427.3/4.2/2.7 21.7/1734/8.0/0.7
3 - 80.6/348.5/4.3/2.3 16.1/131.5/8.2/0.6
4 - 37.7/153.3/4.1/1.0 10.7/87.4/8.1/0.4
5 - 28.8/121.8/4.2/0.8 6.3/47.5/7.5/0.2
6 - 23.6/95.8/4.1/0.6 4.7/37.2/8.0/0.1
7 - 16.1/66.1/4.1/0.4 3.7/27.9/7.5/0.1

As you can see, the production drops every round.

Good comment. Good info. Good job!!!!

 

[Anointed One]

Wonder if the Hawks will trade down in 3rd...

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

At this point I hope we keep Earl... we’re a better football team with him, we should just lock him up and let him stay here until he retires...

 

[blstoker]

At this point I hope we keep Earl... we’re a better football team with him, we should just lock him up and let him stay here until he retires...

Yeah, work on extending him and lock him up. I do t see a trade now that we’re in the 3rd.

 

[blstoker]

Well, with just a few picks to go, Maurice Hurst and Orlando Brown are still there. I had Holton Hill in the third as well, and he’s still there. Getting excited to see where the Hawks go here.