Is Baker Mayfield a Bust?

[dtgold88]

Didn’t you say they would have to give a pick and/or he would be released. Funny coming from you. You weren’t right either and you won’t be right about DW as well

wont stop him from taking another victory lap, though.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Mayfield kicked in 3.5 million to make the trade happen. Shows how badly he wanted out of Cleveland.

Shows he wanted to get on the field asap. The thing I have said from day 1 is he has his heart in it, he is a gamer. Ultimately, it hurt him bc he played through an injury

 

[DJ Fieri]

Didn’t you say they would have to give a pick and/or he would be released. Funny coming from you. You weren’t right either and you won’t be right about DW as well

This.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Didn’t you say they would have to give a pick and/or he would be released. Funny coming from you. You weren’t right either and you won’t be right about DW as well

I said it might be possible and it was possible, didn't you say a 2nd round pick would have to be included in any trade for Mayfield?

 

[HaroldSeattle]

This.

Thought you said Mayfield would go to the Seahawks?

 

[DJ Fieri]

It didn't even get to point of a QB getting hurt....LOL.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Thought you said Mayfield would go to the Seahawks?

I said Seattle or Carolina.

Because, a lot of reporters were saying that. And most likely Carolina offered a better pick.

 

[Shanemansj13]

My post from early May. Like I said, I’m sure the delay was salary and they really get close to half since Baker forfeited the $3.5M. Pretty much exactly what I said

Picks don't matter at this point compared to salary. The Browns have about $30M in cap not counting the Hooper cap coming after June 1st. I bet you the Browns would take a 7th if they can get the team take his full salary but that is not likely. The Browns are already going to have a ton of cap rollover but any salary from Baker will also go to that 2023 rollover. I still think they can get a 4th or 5th but like I said, it's more about salary than anything at this point.

If a team takes half of Baker's salary, that is a steal, any way you look at it, plain and simple. He is without a doubt a top 20 QB but closer to mid of the pack 15-16.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

 

[NWPATSFAN]

Browns trade Baker Mayfield to Panthers after acquiring Deshaun Watson

The move ends a contentious rift with Cleveland following its pursuit of Watson earlier this offseason.

sports.yahoo.com

Cleveland FO got fleeced.

A 5th rounder and 10 mil.

Now we wait and see how long of a vacation Watson gets.

Enjoy watching Brissett as your starter.

Your worst nightmares are coming true.

Can you tell me where I can find a very good FO like the Browns have?

Spin away Princess.

We're all prepared for your back stroke to continue at an accelerated pace.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Thought you said Mayfield would go to the Seahawks?

think that was me

I so wanted to fuck with you about it, all through training camp

 

[HaroldSeattle]

think that was me

I so wanted to fuck with you about it, all through training camp

Yeah that was both of you

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Cleveland FO got fleeced.

A 5th rounder and 10.5 mil.

Now we wait and see how long of a vacation Watson gets.

Enjoy watching Brissett as your starter.

Your worst nightmares are coming true.

Can you tell me where I can find a very good FO like the Browns have?

Spin away Princess.

We're all prepared for your back stroke to continue at an accelerated pace.

fixed it for you.
Panthers arent even paying half of what the Browns are paying him to play for the Panthers.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

fixed it for you.
Panthers arent even paying half of what the Browns are paying him to play for the Panthers. View attachment 301310

Whoa the Browns are paying Mayfield double what the Panthers are paying Mayfield to play for them? Our Browns fans are saying they called that!

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Whoa the Browns are paying Mayfield double what the Panthers are paying Mayfield to play for them? Our Browns fans are saying they called that!

If I remember correctly. In the beginning they (he) were saying they wouldnt pay half.
They would just start him over Brisket well done.
I always knew Mayfield was never taking another snap for the Browns.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

Additionally, Mayfield has agreed to a $3.5 million pay cut in the final year of his deal this upcoming season, while the Browns will absorb $10.5 million and the Panthers around $5 million. Carolina and Seattle always made the most sense for Mayfield after the Deshaun Watson acquisition by Cleveland. And with the Panthers, Mayfield should be the overwhelming favorite to start Week 1 against, you guessed it, the Browns. Giddy up. In Mayfield and Sam Darnold, the Panthers now employ the Nos. 1 and 3 overall picks from the 2018 draft. Mayfield’s addition doesn’t exactly move the needle much for Carolina’s pass-catchers in terms of fantasy.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

well looky at post number 1025 above. Should I take a victory lap because I called many would take misguided victory laps if Baker was moved (said 25% chance AT BEST)?

Yep...gotta love this forum. apologies accepted.

Hmmm doesn't seem as it was fan driven now does it. Beside the fleecing of only getting a 5th and paying 10M, the FO screwed up that relationship so bad BM willingly left 3.5M on the table just to get away.

Got to love this forum and the Browns new FO.

 

[fastforward]

The Panthers are paying Mayfield $4.85M in guaranteed salary. Additionally there are $3.5M in incentives. The incentives haven't been stated but I doubt they will be hard to achieve. Effectively the Panthers are on the hook for $8.35M...which is a good deal for them. I think Mayfield is worth more than that. I would give up the equivalent of the #155 pick in the 2023 NFL Draft for that contract.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Mayfield’s addition doesn’t exactly move the needle much for Carolina’s pass-catchers in terms of fantasy.

No he doesn't. Just a waste of draft capitol, money, time and effort for the Panthers. Heads are going to roll in Carolina after this disaster of a move, However could of been worse if the Panthers had not held their ground. Mayfield just isn't a quality NFL starting QB, likely be a journeyman backup going forward just like many other failed QBs in the league.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

No he doesn't. Just a waste of draft capitol, money, time and effort for the Panthers. Heads are going to roll in Carolina after this disaster of a move, However could of been worse if the Panthers had not held their ground. Mayfield just isn't a quality NFL starting QB, likely be a journeyman backup going forward just like many other failed QBs in the league.

Did this man sleep with your wife?

He may be a mid pack starter, but he is definitely better than a back up.
If he is healthy I would take him over Cousins.