interesting Brady article that speaks to his playoff decline...

[Manster7588]

So u are spending ur evenings cruising forums looking for guys that suit ur alt. lifestyle I see.

Well u got the wrong guy ... I'll talk football with ya but u may want to talk to Rex about the other thing I think he may be ur guy.

Just laughing at the girl who wanted to be a guy. At what age did you know you were in the wrong body?

 

[Tgann69]

Just laughing at the girl who wanted to be a guy. At what age did you know you were in the wrong body?

Stuck on it huh? Mommy always bringing home Daddy's and new Daddy not so nice to little Manster?

That why u chose he profile name of Randy Whites nickname so u can be a big guy on the Internet?
smh.

 

[Manster7588]

Stuck on it huh? Mommy always bringing home Daddy's and new Daddy not so nice to little Manster?

That why u chose he profile name of Randy Whites nickname so u can be a big guy on the Internet?
smh.

Mom and Dad are no longer with me, thanks for bringing them up.

R. White is my all time favorite Cowboy, have you noticed I still don't use his picture as my avi.

 

[Southieinnc]

Written just prior to the playoffs in Dec 2014....
Getting Back to Perfection: Tom Brady Has Been An Inconsistent Playoff quarterback
Eric Wilbur

• @GlobeEricWilbur

• Boston.com Staff

• DECEMBER 30, 2014 6:5

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"It's not so much about what we've accomplished in the grand scheme of things, or how it's looked at in terms of history. We’re taking them one at a time. We know how hard it is.” -- New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, Feb. 6, 2005

It’s been nearly 10 years now since “the last one,” which always seemed like it was destined to merely be “the next one.”

On the night the Patriots beat the Philadelphia Eagles, 24-21, in Super Bowl XXXIX in Jacksonville, Fla., New England was universally heralded as an NFL dynasty.

It was the franchise’s third Super Bowl title in four years, led by a 27-year-old quarterback who ran his career playoff record to a remarkable 9-0 after throwing two touchdown passes and no interceptions against the Eagles, who put up more of a fight than people tend to remember.

New England’s nine consecutive postseason wins, dating back to the Snow Bowl against the Oakland Raiders at old Foxboro Stadium in 2002, tied Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers from 1961-67. Brady tied Bart Starr for most consecutive postseason wins by a starting quarterback. It was the first of three Super Bowl appearances that Brady didn’t win the game’s MVP honors, which this time went to wide receiver Deion Branch (133 yards receiving).

Brady had gone that entire postseason without throwing an interception, something he hadn’t done since the previous season’s Super Bowl against the Carolina Panthers in Houston, and only three times in his young playoff career, an 11:3 touchdown-to-interception ratio that spoke to many of head coach Bill Belichick’s football philosophies.

He would add one more playoff victory to the perfection, a 28-3 wild card win over the Jacksonville Jaguars the following January, giving him a 10-0 postseason mark before inevitability struck the following week, a 27-13 loss in Denver to the Broncos that gave Brady his first taste of postseason defeat.

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"It's so depressing and it makes you appreciate what we've accomplished,” he said that night, Jan. 14, 2006.

"It's been a great run.”

Ten years later, and it’s still a great run for these New England Patriots, 12-4 and possessing the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs.

But it’s been a football lifetime since they have hoisted a Lombardi Trophy, with two chances having come up empty against the New York Giants. A decade removed, “the next one” remains “the last one," even as the Patriots have remained the class of the NFL, a model of dominant consistency for 14 seasons running.

Yet the fourth ring has eluded them twice. In heartbreaking, throw-up-in-your-fist fashion.

Brady threw two interceptions in his first playoff loss in Denver, one fewer than he had tossed in his previous 10 playoff games combined. In the 15 postseason games that followed, he threw 17 more, three against the San Diego Chargers, twice, and three more in a wild card loss to the Baltimore Ravens, perhaps the most embarrassing defeat on Brady’s playoff resume, which also featured a career-low 49.1 quarterback rating.

Since his 10-0 mark, Brady and the Patriots have gone just 8-8 in the playoffs, ranging from one-and-dones against Baltimore and the New York Jets to a pair of Super Bowl losses. In those 16 games, Brady has thrown 29 touchdown passes, but with this time with 19 interceptions to go along with them.

When he was racking up Super Bowls with ease, he had zero multiple interception games to speak of.

He’s had six in the postseason since.

For sure, the Patriots of the past decade have been a regular season machine that sputters to dust come January and February, a .444 playoff winning percentage since 2008 that has kept the annual “AFC East Champs” T-shirts from becoming rags throughout New England more often than not.

But even though Brady has had some memorable postseason gaffes to his credit, he isn’t the problem. It’s just that when you laud credit on the quarterback for being perfect at one point in his career, it’s sort of hypocritical to not heap the negative on him as well, isn’t it?

Even the most stalwart pom-pom-waving, No. 12-wearing aficionados would have to admit reality; Brady has not been a great postseason quarterback over the last decade. He’s been inconsistent and has notably made un-Brady-like decisions, ones he would rarely make during his team’s regular season runs.

Even in some of the wins, Brady has been an enigma in regard to the final result. In the AFC title victory against Baltimore, it took kicker Billy Cundiff’s legendary missed field goal to erase the fact that Brady threw two interceptions and had a QB rating of only 57.5.

In the AFC Championship game against the Chargers in 2008, an injured Brady could have cost his team’s perfect campaign a game early with a ho-hum two touchdown, three interception showing that said more about San Diego’s ineptitude than it did the Patriots’ dominance in the game. A year earlier, it took Troy Brown’s strip sack to secure the fact that nobody would remember Brady’s 27-of-51 afternoon, complete with three more picks.

But is it Brady's fault the Patriots are only 9-8 since their last Super Bowl victory?

Hardly, and the problem being fixed is precisely why the Patriots very well should win their fourth title in a little more than a month.

According to ESPN Stats and Information, over Brady’s first 10 postseason appearances, New England’s defense allowed an average of 15.8 points per game and got a sack every 13.2 dropbacks. In his past 16 playoff games, the defense has allowed an average of 22.9 points per game and got a sack every 18.2 dropbacks.

During the 10-0 stretch, the Pats defense allowed 20 or more points only three times; to the Panthers and Eagles in the Super Bowl, and to the Pittsburgh Steelers in a 41-27 AFC Championship game blowout.

Dating back to the AFC title game win over the Ravens (23-20), the defense has allowed 20 or more points in six straight playoff games, culminating in a 26-16 loss in the Championship game in Denver last January, when New England gave up 507 yards to the Broncos, the most they've allowed in any game -- regular season or postseason -- under Belichick.

That hit a very familiar nerve with the New England coach.

When Brady and the Patriots lost to Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts in the 2006 AFC Championship game, Belichick responded by giving Brady the tools to be more like his rival. Randy Moss, Wes Welker, and Donte Stallworth gave Brady weapons he’d never been privy to in any previous season, shunning the notion that even he could get things accomplished with Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell. The Pats’ new high-flying attack led them to perfection, until they met the Giants in Glendale, Ariz., of course.

When the Patriots lost their first Super Bowl under Belichick, their playoff record under Brady was still a nifty 14-3. But somewhere along the way, the other side of the ball took a back seat under the defensive-minded Belichick, and the Patriots became something of a wild card when it came to January. They’re just 4-5 in the postseason since being David Tyree’d in the desert, but it was indeed another playoff loss to Manning, Belichick’s first since the Colts’ raging comeback seven years earlier, that prompted him to alter his philosophy once again.

This time, Brady didn’t get Emmanuel Sanders. He got Brandon LaFell. The team didn’t sign running back Knowshon Moreno. They quietly and unceremoniously picked up Jonas Gray and re-acquired LeGarrette Blount.

But after losing out on Aqib Talib - to the Broncos, no less - Belichick reached out to and landed cornerback Darrelle Revis, the best at his position, in the prime of his career, signing him to a two-year, $32 million deal. The team signed Brandon Browner, an intimidating force in the secondary coming off a Super Bowl win with the Seattle Seahawks (and a four-game suspension for PED violations, as it turned out).

Chandler Jones became a force. Dont’a Hightower and Jamie Collins emerged as ultimate difference-makers. Vince Wilfork rebounded from early-season hiccups to solidify the defensive line. Even the loss of Jerod Mayo did little to deter the ferocity of the Patriots defense heading into the postseason, not having allowed a second-half touchdown in six straight games to end the regular season.

It was why they won going back a decade-plus. It’s why they are pretty damned likely to win again in 2015.

The Patriots have seemingly fixed a fatal flaw. Time to finally test it out on the playoff stage.

"This is what we play for," Brady told WEEI on Monday. "This is what you work hard for. This is what it all comes down to as an athlete. You can't put yourself in a better situation than this. Now you've just got to go and take advantage of it."

Finally, a playoff chase that won't rest on Brady' shoulders.

Just as it was in the good, old days.

Nice troll post Tgann. An article about a HOF QB decline just before he kicks Baltimore, Indy and Seattle out of the playoffs - on his way to his 4th SB win?

 

[Tgann69]

Mom and Dad are no longer with me, thanks for bringing them up.

R. White is my all time favorite Cowboy, have you noticed I still don't use his picture as my avi.

Yeah u just share his nickname... Geh...

About the parent thingy..u know what they say... Live in a glass house don't throw a stone.

We'd be talking football if u weren't such a jagoff.

 

[Tgann69]

Nice troll post Tgann. An article about a HOF QB decline just before he kicks Baltimore, Indy and Seattle out of the playoffs - on his way to his 4th SB win?

I didn't write the article...

Just think it's well written and has a lot of facts in it... U should read it it talks about Brady's 10 year lack of SB wins and th loss to Baltimore being his most embarrassing playoff loss when he threw 3 int's and had a QBR of 49.1...

Informative.

 

[Southieinnc]

I didn't write the article...

Just think it's well written and has a lot of facts in it... U should read it it talks about Brady's 10 year lack of SB wins and th loss to Baltimore being his most embarrassing playoff loss when he threw 3 int's and had a QBR of 49.1...

Informative.

Why do I want to read articles that are over a year old that the writer regrets writing?????

 

[Gooch1034]

Not discrediting him.
u didn't read the article did you?

It gives him his early years nobody can deny that...nobody can deny the decline either.

I found the article quite interesting.

I read most of it but not all of it. I was speaking in general terms through Bradys career. So many hate him so bad they cant face the fact that he is a HOF quality QB. I don't like it any more than the next non-Pats fan but that doesn't mean I pretend he sucks like many do.

 

[BeaReylo]

That's good because. You couldn't teach a pet rock to sit.

So how can you praise Flacco and dis Brady?

I'm no Patriot or Brady fan but he is an Elite QB and first ballot HOF'er.

Yep, at the end of the day people will just remember all of the wins,division titles and Superbowl trophies.

 

[Tgann69]

I read most of it but not all of it. I was speaking in general terms through Bradys career. So many hate him so bad they cant face the fact that he is a HOF quality QB. I don't like it any more than the next non-Pats fan but that doesn't mean I pretend he sucks like many do.

U will never hear me say:

1) he won't make the HOF
2) he wasnt great

You I'll also not hear me pretend he is the same today as he was... Some NE fans think it's 2003 but it's not he isn't and hasn't been the same for years. Just be they have "hoped" he was the same doesn't explain the 10yr drought. A young Brady wins those SB games he lost but he's not the same and I'm glad he isn't.

This article puts together a nice chronology that debunks the last 10 years of delusion and paints the reality of it. His numbers or lack thereof in the playoffs dont lie.

I think we all know Brady didn't win that last SB it makes me laugh when NE fans suggest it all the while poking fun at Pete Carroll making the worst call in SB history.

Can't have it both ways. If Pete Carroll made the worst call then NE didn't win the Seahawks lost it which is what happened.

 

[Gooch1034]

U will never hear me say:

1) he won't make the HOF
2) he wasnt great

You I'll also not hear me pretend he is the same today as he was... Some NE fans think it's 2003 but it's not he isn't and hasn't been the same for years. Just be they have "hoped" he was the same doesn't explain the 10yr drought. A young Brady wins those SB games he lost but he's not the same and I'm glad he isn't.

This article puts together a nice chronology that debunks the last 10 years of delusion and paints the reality of it. His numbers or lack thereof in the playoffs dont lie.

I think we all know Brady didn't win that last SB it makes me laugh when NE fans suggest it all the while poking fun at Pete Carroll making the worst call in SB history.

Can't have it both ways. If Pete Carroll made the worst call then NE didn't win the Seahawks lost it which is what happened.

I agree 100%

 

[Tgann69]

I agree 100%

I've said this before... IMO Ben R is the best QB in the league. can't frkng stand him but I also have seen what he can do when he has protection and when he doesn't he is just as dangerous or more. Most Qbs don't have the latter it's what separates him.

Now in the same breath I hope Suggs sacks him 1,000 times this year and he can't walk after the game. Not wishing an injury on him just don't mind seeing him take a beating.

 

[Southieinnc]

U will never hear me say:

1) he won't make the HOF
2) he wasnt great

You I'll also not hear me pretend he is the same today as he was... Some NE fans think it's 2003 but it's not he isn't and hasn't been the same for years. Just be they have "hoped" he was the same doesn't explain the 10yr drought. A young Brady wins those SB games he lost but he's not the same and I'm glad he isn't.

This article puts together a nice chronology that debunks the last 10 years of delusion and paints the reality of it. His numbers or lack thereof in the playoffs dont lie.

I think we all know Brady didn't win that last SB it makes me laugh when NE fans suggest it all the while poking fun at Pete Carroll making the worst call in SB history.

Can't have it both ways. If Pete Carroll made the worst call then NE didn't win the Seahawks lost it which is what happened.

I'll summarize your statement.
If Brady wins he is good and if he loses he is bad.
Patriots won the last Superbowl, even though we all know he is not what he once was.
You continually say Flacco is elite. If the "declining Brady" just beat Flacco, what does that make Flacco?

 

[Tgann69]

I'll summarize your statement.
If Brady wins he is good and if he loses he is bad.
Patriots won the last Superbowl, even though we all know he is not what he once was.
You continually say Flacco is elite. If the "declining Brady" just beat Flacco, what does that make Flacco?

Did u read the article?

 

[Southieinnc]

Did u read the article?

Yes, twice. Once today and once a 1 1/2 years ago.....

 

[Gooch1034]

I've said this before... IMO Ben R is the best QB in the league. can't frkng stand him but I also have seen what he can do when he has protection and when he doesn't he is just as dangerous or more. Most Qbs don't have the latter it's what separates him.

Now in the same breath I hope Suggs sacks him 1,000 times this year and he can't walk after the game. Not wishing an injury on him just don't mind seeing him take a beating.

I know what you mean. I wouldn't consider Ben #1 but he is now the full package anyone could want in a QB minus the r*pe. Size, mobility, strong arm, etc. He has matured a lot the last few years.

 

[Tgann69]

Yes, twice. Once today and once a 1 1/2 years ago.....

1 1/2 years ago?

It was just written in Dec.2014... At least that's what the top of the article said and the data was up to date.

 

[Tgann69]

I know what you mean. I wouldn't consider Ben #1 but he is now the full package anyone could want in a QB minus the r*pe. Size, mobility, strong arm, etc. He has matured a lot the last few years.

The guy I think is number 1 is the guy I don't want my team playing against be he can beat us at any moment. Maybe I'm biased bc of that but I'd rather the Ravens play Brady all day everyday then Ben R. Especially at Gillette... Fuck playing at Heinz field fucking purgatory...lol

 

[Southieinnc]

1 1/2 years ago?

It was just written in Dec.2014... At least that's what the top of the article said and the data was up to date.

It is obsolete. The point was made and then refuted by another superbowl run.

 

[HammerDown]

He's the worst starting QB in the league.

The.

Worst.