Indication Newton & Pryor bust

[NinerSickness]

I can't think of a single great or even good QB who got in trouble in college. Can you?

 

[numone9er]

I thought i remember something about Matt Leinart in college. Oh wait, you said great QB's. I got nothing.

 

[NinerSickness]

I thought about Leinart too, but I think it was just a speeding ticket or something. I can't remember. Either way it backs up what I noticed...

Wasn't Rex Grossman caught ding whipits? Who else got in trouble in colllege at QB?

 

[NinerSickness]

Can you think of any QBs who got in trouble in college?

Hasn't Quincy Carter been arresested a bunch of times?

 

[spacedoodoopistol]

Damn....this is a pretty good point. I wouldn't say it means he'll suck, but going down the list of HOFs all have been solid citizens. Marino did have rumors of drug use prior to his draft, but no real trouble.

 

[MW49ers5]

I can't think of a single great or even good QB who got in trouble in college. Can you?

After three minutes of consideration, I agree! Sold!

 

[HighTide]

Joe Namath comes to mind.

 

[mem49er]

Joe Namath comes to mind.

He got in trouble in college?

 

[tomikcon1971]

I'm not gonna vouch for the quality of list but here are some names to consider based on an "equation" someone came up with.

It seems to be a pretty valid theory.

1.Joe Montana
2.Peyton Manning
3.Otto Graham
4.Brett Favre
5.Tom Brady
6.Johnny Unitas
7.John Elway
8.Terry Bradshaw
9.Dan Marino
10.Steve Young
11.Troy Aikman
12.Kurt Warner
13.Bart Starr
14.Jim Kelly
15.Roger Staubach
16.Fran Tarkenton
17.Donovan McNabb
18.Sid Luckman
19.Joe Theismann
20.Ken Stabler
21.Phil Simms
22.Steve McNair
23.[[Trent Green
24.Bob Griese
25.Len Dawson
26.Boomer Esiason
27.Joe Namath
28.Drew Bledsoe
29.Rich Gannon
30.Ken Anderson
31.Dan Fouts
32.Jack Kemp
33.Warren Moon
34.Daryle Lamonica
35.Jim Plunkett
36.Brad Johnson
37.Mark Brunell
38.Norm Van Brocklin
39.Jeff Garcia
40.Roman Gabriel
41.Marc Bulger
42.Y.A. Tittle
43.Neil Lomax
44.Matt Hasselbeck
45.Jake Delhomme
46.Jake Plummer
47.Jim Everett
48.Kerry Collins
49.Drew Brees
50.Randall Cunningham

 

[wartyOne]

Marcus Vick.

Owned.

 

[wartyOne]

To be fair, Sick said "great or even good" when referring to a QB. I don't see now Namath qualifies. Take away his brash prediction, and he's Steve Deberg.

I'm verifying stats to back up my argument. Gimme a second.

 

[FourBeeDen]

It's really hard to tell. Way back then, the media espopsure of college players is not as widely spread as it is today. So you never know, who did what way back when...

 

[wartyOne]

To be fair, Sick said "great or even good" when referring to a QB. I don't see now Namath qualifies. Take away his brash prediction, and he's Steve Deberg.

I'm verifying stats to back up my argument. Gimme a second.

Joe Namath career stats:
Games: 140
Games Started: 130
Record as a starter: 62-63-4 (I'm not sure how PFR.com came up with 129 games if he started 130)
Completions: 1886
Attempts: 3762
Completion percentage: 50.1
Yards: 27663
TD's: 173
TD percentage: 4.6
INT's: 220
INT percentage: 5.8
Yards per attempt: 7.4
QB Rating: 65.5

Steve Deberg's career stats:

Games: 206
Games Started: 140
Record as a starter: 53-86-1
Completions: 2874
Attempts: 5024
Completion percentage: 57.2
Yards: 34241
TD's: 196
TD percentage: 3.9
INT's: 204
INT percentage: 4.1
Yards per attempt: 6.8
QB Rating: 74.2

 

[h-hour]

Marcus Vick.

Owned.

Ah Marcus Vick..what an idiot he was and still is.

 

[mem49er]

Marcus Vick.

Owned.

Can one season qualify the whole career? Not sayin' he'll bomb this year, but what if he does?

 

[wartyOne]

Can one season qualify the whole career? Not sayin' he'll bomb this year, but what if he does?

Marcus, man. Mike's younger brother.

Tongue firmly planted in cheek.

 

[mem49er]

Marcus, man. Mike's younger brother.

Tongue firmly planted in cheek.

His brother is such a punk. Lookin' back, should have been a clue about Vick's psyche.

 

[LifeLong9ersFan]

To be fair, Sick said "great or even good" when referring to a QB. I don't see now Namath qualifies. Take away his brash prediction, and he's Steve Deberg.

I'm verifying stats to back up my argument. Gimme a second.

Thank the good lord. I want to punch a puppy in the face every time someone mentioned Namath in the great QB category. The guy was flat out awful. I simply cannot understand how someone with more INT's then TD's is considered great.

 

[wartyOne]

His brother is such a punk. Lookin' back, should have been a clue about Vick's psyche.

Absentee parents. You aren't born with that set of moral vacancy (not even a shot at the dogfighting thing; Marcus STOMPED Elvis Dumervil's knee in his final game as a Hokie). Those two were created.

 

[mem49er]

Absentee parents. You aren't born with that set of moral vacancy (not even a shot at the dogfighting thing; Marcus STOMPED Elvis Dumervil's knee in his final game as a Hokie). Those two were created.

That's why I think he's a punk. Moral vacancy is a very appropriate term and I think you're right. Vick seems to have gotten the wake-up call, time will tell if he truly has.