I'm wondering if Eichorst is the right guy

[HuskerInSecLand]

I don't know if Eichorst is the right guy or not but I don't have a big problem with Eichorst being vague and quiet because that is just who he is. He is staying true to himself and his form. When he was hired here the local media wanted to do some stories on him to find out who he was and what kind of style he has and whatever. So they talked to the local media in Miami to see what they could find out. Everyone down there couldn't tell them anything because Eichorst didn't talk to them. Even through all the bullshit that Miami was going through he turned down requests to talk to the media. They all said he was very quiet and didn't talk. Now whether or not that is the way I or anyone else would handle these situations or not at least he is being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

I disagree. There are certain things that must be communicated at least within the program if not publicly.

The Ron Kellogg interview is a perfect example. Greg Sharpe "The Official Voice of The Huskers" ,the "Program Director / Husker Sports Marketing" or in other words the face of the program to the public is caught on an open mike speculating about a conversation hm and Pelini had after the final game of the season.
No one, absolutely no one knew, including Harvey Perlman what was going on in this program except for Shawn Eichorst. This speculation resulted in another embarrassment for the program. Hell I won't give Pelini an excuse but his behavior is a result of not being able to handle the uncertainty.

A program this size needs communication. If Shawn Eichorst is not going to do it he needs a communication officer that will be able to actually disburse information with in the program and publicly when appropriate.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

Didn't T.O. say something about an AD out of the media spotlight was a good thing. I might be imagining that, but I swear I remember something about that.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Are you forgetting your sarcasm font?

 

[oaknightshockey1]

I disagree. There are certain things that must be communicated at least within the program if not publicly.

The Ron Kellogg interview is a perfect example. Greg Sharpe "The Official Voice of The Huskers" ,the "Program Director / Husker Sports Marketing" or in other words the face of the program to the public is caught on an open mike speculating about a conversation hm and Pelini had after the final game of the season.
No one, absolutely no one knew, including Harvey Perlman what was going on in this program except for Shawn Eichorst. This speculation resulted in another embarrassment for the program. Hell I won't give Pelini an excuse but his behavior is a result of not being able to handle the uncertainty.

A program this size needs communication. If Shawn Eichorst is not going to do it he needs a communication officer that will be able to actually disburse information with in the program and publicly when appropriate.

I do not think that is entirely true. As fans we feel like we deserve to be "in the know" but the college athletic landscape is much more complicated than that. I am sure over the past however many weeks Eichorst has been feeling around, figuring out whether we could upgrade at the HC position, what that would do to our revenue, etc. That kind of stuff HAS to be done quietly. When it's not done properly, we end up with Callahan when our best options turn us down and we are left with our pants down. Truth is, we will never have all the information as fans, and because we don't know exactly what is going on, any sort of leak gets blown way out of proportion.

The leaks, on the other hand, are something we need to get figured out ASAP. How many "hot mics" are we going to have accidentally revealing speculation like that, or the Pelini audio from 2 years ago? That kind of stuff can't happen.

 

[blkflagmafia]

I don't have a problem with him not firing Pelini for his record. IF 7-5 8-4 is not reason to fire so be it.

Two things I do have a problem with.

1) Though it could have been a lot worse his record this year was more of the same let downs as his history thus far. If SE was waiting for the end of the season to make a decision then what went down is not reason to keep him. If you had already decided the prevous double digit losses were not reason to replace him then there was no reason to wait to say something other than to let the program go through the turmoil of the last several weeks. So instead of cutting it off at the knees he let him dangle in the breeze for weeks. This was unfair to Pelini, the staff, players and fans.

2) Pelini's behavior was a firing offense. His sideline tantrums, his violent outbursts, halftime attitude and post game diatribe were clear disrespect for the person Shawn Eichorst, the program, the media and the fans.

It was a "Fuck you I am going to do what I want, could care less what you think and if you don't like it show me the door."
This on top of his history of the same inability to control his anger is unacceptable and SE has instead chosen to ignore it while giving him a vote of confidence.

Any supervisor worth his salt would know this was a direct challenge and also know that without a direct slap down there is no way he would be able to supervise this person.

Now we don't know what goes on internally and he may have given him an ultimatum, but what we do know is that Pelini DID give him an ultimatum and for all intensive purposes he dropped to his knees for him.

Yeah that tantrum didn't sit right with me but more because he acted like we needed him. If your not happy bo leave I rather you be with or without us. We have talent with the right coach we can get back to being respected. acting like we need Naw not really 9 wins is cool getting blasted 3 at homes not cool.

 

[bigred472]

It was a "Fuck you I am going to do what I want, could care less what you think and if you don't like it show me the door."
This on top of his history of the same inability to control his anger is unacceptable and SE has instead chosen to ignore it while giving him a vote of confidence.

Any supervisor worth his salt would know this was a direct challenge and also know that without a direct slap down there is no way he would be able to supervise this person.
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I think the school has to make a decision. Fire him and then pay him off...or fire him "with cause" and avoid most of what they might owe Bo. The first is quick BUT expensive. The second may be drawn out (lawsuits) and therefore still expensive.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

7 million over 5 years? It is but a drop in the bucket. The only thing I can figure is the big money is not on board for it.

SE in my opinion handled it in the worst way possible. By not even addressing it specifically and giving him a vote of confidence he effectively showed he does not have the balls to address insubordination.

 

[bigred472]

Didn't T.O. say something about an AD out of the media spotlight was a good thing. I might be imagining that, but I swear I remember something about that.

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Don't know if he said it or not but it's a smart policy. HCs regardless of the sport have egos, and as long as they are doing their job they don't need an AD in the spotlight. The only time we had that was with Pedersen and we all know how that turned out.

Even Byrne (when he was here) didn't covet the spotlight and I credit him for making Nebraska football the financial monster that it is today.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

7 million over 5 years? It is but a drop in the bucket. The only thing I can figure is the big money is not on board for it.

SE in my opinion handled it in the worst way possible. By not even addressing it specifically and giving him a vote of confidence he effectively showed he does not have the balls to address insubordination.

Again, I disagree. Publicly chastising our coach doesn't really help all that much, and only adds to the sound clips that could be played on ESPN, further smearing the Nebraska name. I am sure his comments were handled in house, along with the fine from the B1G. We DON'T need to know every little thing that goes on with the program. Like I said before, Eichorst has handled this situation like a lawyer. Give it a chance to play out before deciding that he doesn't have what it takes to do the job.

 

[corn train]

The first time, that we know of, was tape gate over 2 years ago. This current challenge was made in front of the entire nation. Apparently it wasn't handled correctly the first time cause the second time now is a huge One Up from the last and probably not the only 2 times he's stated this to his superiors. I don't think the reprimand, if there was one at all, needs to be made public. I'd like to never hear a word from the AD about anything really.

I get that Bo's pissed at the fans and media, here's an idea on how to fix it starting 6 years ago- stop shitting the bed on Saturday

 

[bigred472]

I get that Bo's pissed at the fans and media, here's an idea on how to fix it starting 6 years ago- stop shitting the bed on Saturday
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His tantrums go back to when we were still in the Big 12. Perlman & Osborne chewed his ass out then. After this last fine by the B1G, the school should have hit him up with something like $2500000.00 for opening his mouth and warned him that if it happened again the penalty at least financially would be way higher. Making him pay that ten thousand dollar hit is a drop in the bucket to him and won't make him think twice.

 

[blkflagmafia]

The first time, that we know of, was tape gate over 2 years ago. This current challenge was made in front of the entire nation. Apparently it wasn't handled correctly the first time cause the second time now is a huge One Up from the last and probably not the only 2 times he's stated this to his superiors. I don't think the reprimand, if there was one at all, needs to be made public. I'd like to never hear a word from the AD about anything really.

I get that Bo's pissed at the fans and media, here's an idea on how to fix it starting 6 years ago- stop shitting the bed on Saturday

CHURCH!!!!

 

[iruletheskool]

Learning more and more about how many dumbasses we have in our AD office



Chris Petersen would be interested in Nebraska.. :')





But hey, Bo has that whale trophy

 

[corn train]

Learning more and more about how many dumbasses we have in our AD office



Chris Petersen would be interested in Nebraska.. :')





But hey, Bo has that whale trophy

You being cereal?

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I don't know if Eichorst is the right guy or not but I don't have a big problem with Eichorst being vague and quiet because that is just who he is. He is staying true to himself and his form. When he was hired here the local media wanted to do some stories on him to find out who he was and what kind of style he has and whatever. So they talked to the local media in Miami to see what they could find out. Everyone down there couldn't tell them anything because Eichorst didn't talk to them. Even through all the bullshit that Miami was going through he turned down requests to talk to the media. They all said he was very quiet and didn't talk. Now whether or not that is the way I or anyone else would handle these situations or not at least he is being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

Absolutely agree.

That is also why I'm happy that Bo is swinging at officials and saying naughty words in public. He's just staying true to himself and his form. Now whether or not Bo has a bad loss here and there, at least he's being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

 

[corn train]

“Things didn’t work out down the stretch the way anyone of us wanted or expected,” Eichorst said to “Sports Nightly” program host Greg Sharpe, NU football’s play-by-play announcer. “But that wasn’t due in my view — from my vantage point — from a lack of preparation, effort, passion or support. I think Bo would be the first person to tell you that. He’s admitted his shortcomings — areas in which he’s needs to improve. I think (players) competed hard and faced a bunch of adversity with injuries and turnovers.

Ima go ahead and have to disagree with one of the highlighted adversity options, one of those is not like the other in terms of out of your control

 

[blkflagmafia]

Absolutely agree.

That is also why I'm happy that Bo is swinging at officials and saying naughty words in public. He's just staying true to himself and his form. Now whether or not Bo has a bad loss here and there, at least he's being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

no would care about bo antics if he was winning titles or big games. ....
If Bo was dominating like urban he could punch a ref we would all say it was the refs fault haha.

 

[corn train]

What Mafia say's here is not untrue, my position with Bo is not about his antics rather the overall trends that keep us from winning games. We're all men here aside from lil Chuck, a dude like Saban acts the same way as Bo and not a single fuck is given when Nickey pulls the same shit, verbatim

 

[blkflagmafia]

What Mafia say's here is not untrue, my position with Bo is not about his antics rather the overall trends that keep us from winning games. We're all men here aside from lil Chuck, a dude like Saban acts the same way as Bo and not a single fuck is given when Nickey pulls the same shit, verbatim

exactly

I've seen nick snap over the littlest mistake when he's a head by several touchdowns. last big one was the ole miss game . but he snaps alot and no one say anything they laugh it off as hard teaching and drive for perfection

but when Bo does it.. it's some breaking news shit like tmz style. I've never had a problem with bo passion I love it but what he did last Friday was a bc he thought he was done not passion for the game. but none of this would matter if he won conference titles or big games or bcs bowls.

it's fucked up but it's true winning cures all and gives you passes to do or act however we've seen urban live by that motto for years at Florida.

 

[blkflagmafia]

A.D. Shawn Eichorst ?darn proud? of football team, extends further support to Bo Pelini | sports.omaha.com

bo is safe and SE confirms and states he's good and proud of the team.
aight bo now that your safe let's see you stop the usual husker cycle of 3-4 losses,blowouts, and big game disasters.
sounds like he's gonna be here for around or SE doesn't want to pay that buyout