I'm wondering if Eichorst is the right guy

[HuskerinBig10]

Yes, I read up on him. I understand that in college athletics there is no such thing as loyalty. His jobs so far, UW Whitewater, South Carolina, Wisconsin, Miami(short stint), now at Nebraska. North, South, North, South, North again.

Why did he leave Miami for Nebraska? Could family values be involved? He did not want his kids growing up in that Miami stuff? Hurricanes(weather) a factor? Or is it all about money?

Since he takes credit for the glorious things that happened that he really had no hand in, he is going to have to take blame for stuff too.

He let this Bo Pelini thing fester then he issues a very small, vague press release. If you are smart, you come out hard and fast and issue a statement on Bo Pelini when the shit was hitting the fan. That would have quieted the whole thing. He basically said what we all said about why Pelini was going to stay. Academics, little to no cheating, players don't get in too much trouble,and nine win seasons. He could have said that as soon as the sharks began to circle.

I think he lacks balls. He did not take a stand at Miami about Nevin Shapiro. He issued an even vaguer press release about that. And then what does he do? He bails as soon as he could. It sounds like the Miami Big Cigars really do not like him at all. I think that bridge is burned.

I don't think Eichorst has any vision whatsoever. He seems to be more of a ladder climber than a visionary. I bet he takes credit for Nebraska Women's Volleyball, Nebraska Women's Soccer, Tim Miles, and anything else before he takes any credit for Bo Pelini.

I won't be surprised when he accepts a job down south again. Soon, very soon.

BTW, I heard from a very reliable source that knows Nebraska Big Cigars that Al Golden is not happy at Miami either. His contract is through 2020 though.

 

[Red_Alert]

All we can do is sit back and watch. NU will either go Up, Down, or remain in Bogatory.

They get their first test at either Down or Bogatory in about 4 weeks. Then we wait until Sept 2014.

GBR

 

[oaknightshockey1]

He's a lawyer. Of course his press releases are vague and not "hard and fast".

 

[iruletheskool]

Doesnt help tha TO still has too much power backers after proving incompetant being footballs AD

 

[bigred472]

I don't think Eichorst has any vision whatsoever. He seems to be more of a ladder climber than a visionary. I bet he takes credit for Nebraska Women's Volleyball, Nebraska Women's Soccer, Tim Miles, and anything else before he takes any credit for Bo Pelini.
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As much as I didn't like his endorsement of Pelini (if you want to call it that), I understand why he did it that way. The bigger issue would be for him as coming across like another Pederson (sp?). This way he can appear supportive and let the HC hang himself (eventually).

I do believe he left Miami feeling that the school would get worse sanctions than it has. Whether he stays here for long who knows?

 

[HuskerPower52]

Doesnt help tha TO still has too much power backers after proving incompetant being footballs AD

Please explain

 

[corn train]

IDK enough about SE yet in his role here as AD, or what his "vision" even is. IMO he's made a decision based more on money, an avg est. buyout for Bo and his staff plus the cost of hiring the new, $20 mil. Being just 1 season off from going 10-4 is a pretty big gamble. Not a popular decision but a safe one not knowing if a new coach and staff would do any better. Which brings me back to my point that if you're not serious about hiring someone proven then don't even bother trying just for dumb luck.

From a managers standpoint the Fire Me challenge Bo threw at the admission after the Iowa game is more concerning, insubordination is cause for firing all by itself in the really world

 

[bigred472]

IDK enough about SE yet in his role here as AD, or what his "vision" even is. IMO he's made a decision based more on money, an avg est. buyout for Bo and his staff plus the cost of hiring the new, $20 mil. Being just 1 season off from going 10-4 is a pretty big gamble. Not a popular decision but a safe one not knowing if a new coach and staff would do any better. Which brings me back to my point that if you're not serious about hiring someone proven then don't even bother trying just for dumb luck.

From a managers standpoint the Fire Me challenge Bo threw at the admission after the Iowa game is more concerning, insubordination is cause for firing all by itself in the really world

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He's already been warned once through Perlman/Osborne. I'm going to be very surprised if he gets away with this hissy fit either. He has been reprimanded, this time by the B1G (and I'm sure the school as well)..That's strike two.

 

[corn train]

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He's already been warned once through Perlman/Osborne. I'm going to be very surprised if he gets away with this hissy fit either. He has been reprimanded, this time by the B1G (and I'm sure the school as well)..That's strike two.

If you're a coach who's winning big games and championships there's a whole different set of bargaining chips you play with at the big boy table, not sure that's the case here

 

[Smart]

BTW, I heard from a very reliable source that knows Nebraska Big Cigars that Al Golden is not happy at Miami either. His contract is through 2020 though.

I sort of doubt this, considering that he is thought to be (along with Mel Tucker and Gary Andersen) one of the three people Barry Alvarez talked to about the Wisconsin opening. Supposedly he said he had no interest in leaving Miami, and that was before a pretty solid 2013.

 

[popeyecv64]

If you're a coach who's winning big games and championships there's a whole different set of bargaining chips you play with at the big boy table, not sure that's the case here

so what you're sayin its all about the snaps the money ???

if so I agree

it has turned into this --- MONEY !!!

 

[corn train]

so what you're sayin its all about the snaps the money ???

if so I agree

it has turned into this --- MONEY !!!

Shouldn't you be gettin ready to go to the VA?

 

[popeyecv64]

Shouldn't you be gettin ready to go to the VA?

I is thar sir

my extremely nervous therapist told me ta deal with thangs like this in stages

so I am

then I told him ta liten up a tad on the bills he sends me -- if not I won't liten up a bit on the spankins I give his wife

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

I is thar sir

my extremely nervous therapist told me ta deal with thangs like this in stages

so I am

then I told him ta liten up a tad on the bills he sends me -- if not I won't liten up a bit on the spankins I give his wife

I 100% support this post

 

[blkflagmafia]

I think JJM said it awhile ago in a different post. I think SE scared and doesn't want that heat for firing bo. it's clear husker nation is split near evenly on for Bo or against bo.

so unless bo 7-5 or worse or till we find the right coach ....
because I definitely feel like we tested the waters on the low and probably didn't get the result we wanted.

either way it seem like we're scared to make a move... we can do better than bo we have talent. I don't care what the players say about bo because there is a serious disconnect on the field game day wise. but oh well I knew he would probably stay and now we will be another mediocre big ten team

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

I don't have a problem with him not firing Pelini for his record. IF 7-5 8-4 is not reason to fire so be it.

Two things I do have a problem with.

1) Though it could have been a lot worse his record this year was more of the same let downs as his history thus far. If SE was waiting for the end of the season to make a decision then what went down is not reason to keep him. If you had already decided the prevous double digit losses were not reason to replace him then there was no reason to wait to say something other than to let the program go through the turmoil of the last several weeks. So instead of cutting it off at the knees he let him dangle in the breeze for weeks. This was unfair to Pelini, the staff, players and fans.

2) Pelini's behavior was a firing offense. His sideline tantrums, his violent outbursts, halftime attitude and post game diatribe were clear disrespect for the person Shawn Eichorst, the program, the media and the fans.

It was a "Fuck you I am going to do what I want, could care less what you think and if you don't like it show me the door."
This on top of his history of the same inability to control his anger is unacceptable and SE has instead chosen to ignore it while giving him a vote of confidence.

Any supervisor worth his salt would know this was a direct challenge and also know that without a direct slap down there is no way he would be able to supervise this person.

Now we don't know what goes on internally and he may have given him an ultimatum, but what we do know is that Pelini DID give him an ultimatum and for all intensive purposes he dropped to his knees for him.

 

[Exorbitant]

I don't have a problem with him not firing Pelini for his record. IF 7-5 8-4 is not reason to fire so be it.

Two things I do have a problem with.

1) Though it could have been a lot worse his record this year was more of the same let downs as his history thus far. If SE was waiting for the end of the season to make a decision then what went down is not reason to keep him. If you had already decided the prevous double digit losses were not reason to replace him then there was no reason to wait to say something other than to let the program go through the turmoil of the last several weeks. So instead of cutting it off at the knees he let him dangle in the breeze for weeks. This was unfair to Pelini, the staff, players and fans.

2) Pelini's behavior was a firing offense. His sideline tantrums, his violent outbursts, halftime attitude and post game diatribe were clear disrespect for the person Shawn Eichorst, the program, the media and the fans.

It was a "Fuck you I am going to do what I want, could care less what you think and if you don't like it show me the door."
This on top of his history of the same inability to control his anger is unacceptable and SE has instead chosen to ignore it while giving him a vote of confidence.

Any supervisor worth his salt would know this was a direct challenge and also know that without a direct slap down there is no way he would be able to supervise this person.

Now we don't know what goes on internally and he may have given him an ultimatum, but what we do know is that Pelini DID give him an ultimatum and for all intensive purposes he dropped to his knees for him.

Another double digit loss is looming in the bowl game, especially if Nebraska plays UT. Ole Mac Brown will just toy with Mad Dog. I sure hope I'm wrong about this, but I doubt it.

 

[jedburks]

I don't know if Eichorst is the right guy or not but I don't have a big problem with Eichorst being vague and quiet because that is just who he is. He is staying true to himself and his form. When he was hired here the local media wanted to do some stories on him to find out who he was and what kind of style he has and whatever. So they talked to the local media in Miami to see what they could find out. Everyone down there couldn't tell them anything because Eichorst didn't talk to them. Even through all the bullshit that Miami was going through he turned down requests to talk to the media. They all said he was very quiet and didn't talk. Now whether or not that is the way I or anyone else would handle these situations or not at least he is being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

I don't know if Eichorst is the right guy or not but I don't have a big problem with Eichorst being vague and quiet because that is just who he is. He is staying true to himself and his form. When he was hired here the local media wanted to do some stories on him to find out who he was and what kind of style he has and whatever. So they talked to the local media in Miami to see what they could find out. Everyone down there couldn't tell them anything because Eichorst didn't talk to them. Even through all the bullshit that Miami was going through he turned down requests to talk to the media. They all said he was very quiet and didn't talk. Now whether or not that is the way I or anyone else would handle these situations or not at least he is being consistent and to me that is a good thing.

I agree, and also I think that might be a good thing for us because of who he is following. Lots of Nebraska fans took ( and still take) TO's word as if it were the word of god. If he were to come in here and be super vocal about making changes and stuff, the fan base would be in even more of an uproar than it is now. I think he understands that.

 

[corn train]

I don't have a problem with him not firing Pelini for his record. IF 7-5 8-4 is not reason to fire so be it.

Two things I do have a problem with.

1) Though it could have been a lot worse his record this year was more of the same let downs as his history thus far. If SE was waiting for the end of the season to make a decision then what went down is not reason to keep him. If you had already decided the prevous double digit losses were not reason to replace him then there was no reason to wait to say something other than to let the program go through the turmoil of the last several weeks. So instead of cutting it off at the knees he let him dangle in the breeze for weeks. This was unfair to Pelini, the staff, players and fans.

2) Pelini's behavior was a firing offense. His sideline tantrums, his violent outbursts, halftime attitude and post game diatribe were clear disrespect for the person Shawn Eichorst, the program, the media and the fans.

It was a "Fuck you I am going to do what I want, could care less what you think and if you don't like it show me the door."
This on top of his history of the same inability to control his anger is unacceptable and SE has instead chosen to ignore it while giving him a vote of confidence.

Any supervisor worth his salt would know this was a direct challenge and also know that without a direct slap down there is no way he would be able to supervise this person.

Now we don't know what goes on internally and he may have given him an ultimatum, but what we do know is that Pelini DID give him an ultimatum and for all intensive purposes he dropped to his knees for him.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I read SE's statement