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Ichiro 1 vote shy of unanimous

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I believe these voters got together and collude not to have a player be voted in unanimously. Saw the same thing with Jeter. Sucks to draw the short straw or they’re on their own. Regardless, it’s stupid.
It's ridiculous
 

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I believe these voters got together and collude not to have a player be voted in unanimously. Saw the same thing with Jeter. Sucks to draw the short straw or they’re on their own. Regardless, it’s stupid.
Yeah but Jeter shouldn’t have. You can tell the history of baseball without him. You can’t tell the history of baseball without Ichiro.

But they do need to reform the voting.
 

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Ryan Divish was on the Jason Puckett podcast today and he fears he accidentally left Ichiro off of his ballot
 

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Mariners are said to be retiring Ichiro's number in a pre-game ceremony on August 9th this year. Not sure why they chose the 80th anniversary of the nuking of Nagasaki to retire his number, but no one ever said we have the sharpest or most sensitive people in our front office.
 

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whoever didn't is a prima donna bitch who wants to make it all about themselves. what a turd blossom.
 

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whoever didn't is a prima donna bitch who wants to make it all about themselves. what a turd blossom.
I’m glad at least in the sports media world, everyone is on board in calling out this voter as a coward that is hiding behind his vote. Seriously, come out and explain your rationale.
 

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Ryan Divish was on the Jason Puckett podcast today and he fears he accidentally left Ichiro off of his ballot
He posted today he did vote for him. Maybe he was just kidding before?
 

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He posted today he did vote for him. Maybe he was just kidding before?
I kind of took it that way at the end of the interview but he just said he overlooked Ichiro cause it was obviously, voted for 8, voted for Felix while writing a column on Felix and wasn’t sure if he went back to fill out Ichiro. It does bring up a dumb point that I never thought of. If there is an obvious HOF choice voters can care more about keeping guys on ballots than voting for who is in the HOF.
 

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If there is an obvious HOF choice voters can care more about keeping guys on ballots than voting for who is in the HOF.
That happens and I think it is stupid. I think it is stupid that a guy needs 5, 6, 7 chances or whatever the limit is. Of course, I think the Hall thing has been diluted with All-Star players that are not HOF players. But that is just me.
 

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That happens and I think it is stupid. I think it is stupid that a guy needs 5, 6, 7 chances or whatever the limit is. Of course, I think the Hall thing has been diluted with All-Star players that are not HOF players. But that is just me.
Yeah, they need to reform the whole thing. What I’d do is

-Make every vote public
-Get rid of the 75% threshold and make them go NFL style where it has to be a consensus on who goes is
-Create a wing that is voted on by players, not voters. Players know who is and isn’t HOF worthy. It would’ve made Edgar a HOFer much earlier and most likely would get Felix in cause it isn’t just about accumulating stats
 

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likely would get Felix in cause it isn’t just about accumulating stats
I know I am biased, but I never once thought CC was better than Felix. I know stats favor CC, but if Felix was on Dodgers or Yankees he would have won 300.
 

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reate a wing that is voted on by players, not voters. Players know who is and isn’t HOF worthy. It would’ve made Edgar a HOFer much earlier
I wonder about that. Winfield himself told me he didn't believe Edgar was a Hall of Famer because of the DH thing. I wonder how others would have voted.
 

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Meh...it is just one of those quirky baseball traditions that make no sense, but at the same time add a little color to the tapestry.
Voters did not think Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, or Willie Mays were HOF.

Ever since, a few voters voluntarily vote no on purpose (that is leaving the player off),
even though they know its silly....because traditions says to do it...

Mariano Rivera was probably a mistake in the plan.
Somebody thought that somebody else was casting the ceremonial no vote. He accidentally got 100% and likely was not supposed to do so.

The Ichiro plan almost also got screwed up.
 

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I know I am biased, but I never once thought CC was better than Felix. I know stats favor CC, but if Felix was on Dodgers or Yankees he would have won 300.
True. The only pitcher I ever even compared him to was Verlander. Really the only thing I remember about CC was his incredible run with Milwaukee that one year and always being annoyed when he was a Yankee with his hat. Nothing else stood out to me.
 

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I wonder about that. Winfield himself told me he didn't believe Edgar was a Hall of Famer because of the DH thing. I wonder how others would have voted.
Which is fair, but we’ve also heard several players say he was the best RH hitter in his generation so who knows. I am bias but I do think it’d be dumb if a player holds that against him. It is a position in the game so why wouldn’t it count?
 
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