I demand that montsho be banned from SportsHoopla immediately

[True Lakers Fan]

Why would such a racist want to post here?

I haven't paid any attention to the Jay Z - thread, but appearantly Montsho upset a few by defending Jay Z when the others called him racist. He has been a regular up til now and will be back if they haven't banned him for life - lol

 

[RoboticDreams]

I haven't paid any attention to the Jay Z - thread, but appearantly Montsho upset a few by defending Jay Z when the others called him racist. He has been a regular up til now and will be back if they haven't banned him for life - lol

It's a permaban from what I understand.

 

[Wazmankg]

Agreed, sounds like he's promoting a league with nothing but black owners and black players. I wonder if everyone would be coming to the defense of a former white player saying hey white people we need to have our own team our own league. Somehow I doubt it, his career would be over.

I need more clarification. Black ownership and control is something they've have been working towards and promoting for decades. That's what it sounds like he's getting at. I doubt he means that "their" league would exclude all whites. If that's what he meant then that would be racist of course.

 

[Wazmankg]

I was wondering what the fuck that meant. What does it mean?

Me too. That's why I said it wasn't entirely coherent. The guy apparently ain't a rocket scientist. Something like FUBU perhaps ?

 

[trojanfan12]

It's a permaban from what I understand.

Yeah, pretty sure he got "Sterlinged".





Too soon?

 

[Wazmankg]

Exactly!! And when this double standard was pointed out to mont was when he started to unravel. From there, it basically spiraled into him getting himself banned.

It isn't a double standard though. Nobody really knows exactly wtf Johnson meant. Sterling was very clear.

 

[True Lakers Fan]

It isn't a double standard though. Nobody really knows exactly wtf Johnson meant. Sterling was very clear.

Under nomal circumstances, I think Johnson would have been given a warning and fined some money, but with the Sterling fiasco going down - it appears to me that he got lucky and no one noticed him.

 

[trojanfan12]

I need more clarification. Black ownership and control is something they've have been working towards and promoting for decades. That's what it sounds like he's getting at. I doubt he means that "their" league would exclude all whites. If that's what he meant then that would be racist of course.

But he didn't say more black ownership and control in the NBA. He specifically said: "Own team own league"

Had he specified black ownership in the NBA, I would agree with you. However, "own league" seems pretty clear that he means a separate league.

 

[trojanfan12]

It isn't a double standard though. Nobody really knows exactly wtf Johnson meant. Sterling was very clear.

Johnson specifically said "own league". I don't see how that's interpreted another way. If he were talking about black ownership in the NBA, wouldn't he say: "We need more black owners in the NBA"?

 

[RoboticDreams]

Yeah, pretty sure he got "Sterlinged".





Too soon?

Lmao, never too soon. I remember at ESPN telling a guy to go Seau himself like the next day after the news of him doing what he did. Now that was too soon.

 

[uncfan103]

But he didn't say more black ownership and control in the NBA. He specifically said: "Own team own league"

Had he specified black ownership in the NBA, I would agree with you. However, "own league" seems pretty clear that he means a separate league.

I agree with you, that's how I interpret it. But if it's not interpreted that way by others it doesn't mean that your interpretation is correct and that the people that don't see it that way are racist.

 

[RoboticDreams]

Me too. That's why I said it wasn't entirely coherent. The guy apparently ain't a rocket scientist. Something like FUBU perhaps ?

That's kind of what it seemed like to me as well but who knows?

 

[Wazmankg]

But he didn't say more black ownership and control in the NBA. He specifically said: "Own team own league"

Had he specified black ownership in the NBA, I would agree with you. However, "own league" seems pretty clear that he means a separate league.

Or it could mean that he was talking about "own"ership. He also said "TO FOR SELF!!!" whatever the hell that means. But if you want to declare yourself the guy's definitive, official interpreter go for it.

 

[Wazmankg]

Johnson specifically said "own league". I don't see how that's interpreted another way. If he were talking about black ownership in the NBA, wouldn't he say: "We need more black owners in the NBA"?

He was limited by his own limited vocabulary and 140 characters ?

 

[trojanfan12]

I agree with you, that's how I interpret it. But if it's not interpreted that way by others it doesn't mean that your interpretation is correct and that the people that don't see it that way are racist.

I agree, but mont went way beyond that. He completely melted down, called Hammer a racist. Hell, he basically called just about everyone that didn't agree with him a racist. He was given multiple chances to just stop and he wouldn't.

I've posted with mont quite a bit over the years both at cbs and here. He and I have always gotten along pretty well. Do I personally think he's a racist? No. But I have also seen him get stuck on something and take it to extreme levels rather than just admitting he's wrong or agree to disagree and move on.

This time, he simply pushed it too far. Way too far.

 

[trojanfan12]

Or it could mean that he was talking about "own"ership. He also said "TO FOR SELF!!!" whatever the hell that means. But if you want to declare yourself the guy's definitive, official interpreter go for it.

Wouldn't I have to figure out what "TO FOR SELF" means first?

 

[trojanfan12]

He was limited by his own limited vocabulary and 140 characters ?

Maybe. Hell, I don't use twitter. I don't even have a smartphone. So I have no clue how that stuff works.

 

[uncfan103]

I agree, but mont went way beyond that. He completely melted down, called Hammer a racist. Hell, he basically called just about everyone that didn't agree with him a racist. He was given multiple chances to just stop and he wouldn't.

I've posted with mont quite a bit over the years both at cbs and here. He and I have always gotten along pretty well. Do I personally think he's a racist? No. But I have also seen him get stuck on something and take it to extreme levels rather than just admitting he's wrong or agree to disagree and move on.

This time, he simply pushed it too far. Way too far.

That's what I was asking about earlier, clearly I missed something if that's what got him banned because I never saw that. I saw a lot of name calling between different people. And, I'd be surprised if that got him banned because it would represent a double standard on the hoop. But that's another topic and not something that I want to get into.

 

[beardown07]

I wonder if the definition of double-standard slips him now?

 

[Wazmankg]

https://twitter.com/TheRealLJ2/statuses/460157093954486272

@TheRealLJ2 "Do for self Pardon me!"


so that clarifies it a bit. Clearly referring to blacks doing for themselves and owning their own stuff as opposed to bitching about what the white owner had to say. My $0.02