Hendrickson, Higgins, and Chase

[DanBengalfan]

Multiple reports coming out that the Bengals are no longer open to trading Hendrickson. They are working to extend and pay him. Would really open up the draft if they were able to do so.

 

[DanBengalfan]

above are my sources on the matter.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Would be shocked if he lasts until the 3rd round. I would have no issues taking this guy in round 2, if they don't make a move/take an OL in round 1.

He scored a 9.96 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 8 out of 1720 OG from 1987 to 2025.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

It appears the Bengals are done with FA for now, and guard is not on their radar at this current time.

MSN

 

[Cincyfan78]

It appears the Bengals are done with FA for now, and guard is not on their radar at this current time.

MSN

Well, there's no one left and those who are haven't signed are likely waiting to see what team needs are there after the draft...just like teams are now waiting to see what they can get.

I think this tells you that the Bengals will absolutely be targeting at least 1 IOL in the first 3 rounds. If they can get Trey across the finish line (or positive direction) then I could see them looking to double up at this position as well.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Well, there's no one left and those who are haven't signed are likely waiting to see what team needs are there after the draft...just like teams are now waiting to see what they can get.

I think this tells you that the Bengals will absolutely be targeting at least 1 IOL in the first 3 rounds. If they can get Trey across the finish line (or positive direction) then I could see them looking to double up at this position as well.

there's probably someone out there that will be a backup and isn't very good, but the bengals will pretend he's good for awhile.

 

[Cincyfan78]

there's probably someone out there that will be a backup and isn't very good, but the bengals will pretend he's good for awhile.

Scherff is still out there, and I think he could start and be at least decent. As I said, though, at this point I think it's better for those guys to wait until after the draft - they'll see what's available, or when an injury hits early in camp. They'll have more leverage at that point. At this point, they have little leverage with the draft and camps still in front of teams.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Scherff is still out there, and I think he could start and be at least decent. As I said, though, at this point I think it's better for those guys to wait until after the draft - they'll see what's available, or when an injury hits early in camp. They'll have more leverage at that point. At this point, they have little leverage with the draft and camps still in front of teams.

I guess part of that is also what is Scherff is asking for. He made 16.5 million last year. I doubt the Bengals were even offering 10 million more less anything over.

 

[cincygrad]

F Katie Blackburn.... This Hendrickson shit is pure garbage. Katie out here saying that Trey should be happy with the crap contract they are offering him. Trey mentions the next day that they basically aren't communicating with him at all and want him to sign a contract that is basically full of escalators based on team performance. I agree with Trey - Why should he put his money on the line for a team that won't start an NFL guard this season? Why would I tie my money to wins and losses for a team that isn't serious about winning. Seriously, F Katie and that whole ownership group. Bunch of assholes and I wish more players would speak out before they are done playing.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

F Katie Blackburn.... This Hendrickson shit is pure garbage. Katie out here saying that Trey should be happy with the crap contract they are offering him. Trey mentions the next day that they basically aren't communicating with him at all and want him to sign a contract that is basically full of escalators based on team performance. I agree with Trey - Why should he put his money on the line for a team that won't start an NFL guard this season? Why would I tie my money to wins and losses for a team that isn't serious about winning. Seriously, F Katie and that whole ownership group. Bunch of assholes and I wish more players would speak out before they are done playing.

Do we know what the details are that are being offered besides escalators? They could be offering him $28 million base plus team escalators. I agree with you, but I also air on the side of caution as I don't know what the base is they are offering. Definitely could be handled better in public forums though.

 

[RobBase]

F Katie Blackburn.... This Hendrickson shit is pure garbage. Katie out here saying that Trey should be happy with the crap contract they are offering him. Trey mentions the next day that they basically aren't communicating with him at all and want him to sign a contract that is basically full of escalators based on team performance. I agree with Trey - Why should he put his money on the line for a team that won't start an NFL guard this season? Why would I tie my money to wins and losses for a team that isn't serious about winning. Seriously, F Katie and that whole ownership group. Bunch of assholes and I wish more players would speak out before they are done playing.

I think you guys trade him to the Lions the closer we get to draft night.

 

[cincygrad]

Do we know what the details are that are being offered besides escalators? They could be offering him $28 million base plus team escalators. I agree with you, but I also air on the side of caution as I don't know what the base is they are offering. Definitely could be handled better in public forums though.

We know this - Trey was willing to sign a one year extension for a below market figure just two seasons ago. I don't think he has a track record of being unreasonable. It sounds like he has been asking for a multiyear commitment from the team so he has some security beyond one year. And you're right in that we don't know what has been offered - But I have a hunch that it isn't anywhere close to 28 million.

If I'm the Bengals, I offer him the deal that was just signed by the edge in Houston. If he doesn't want it, I'd leak that I offered that exact same deal. The front office behaves as if public perception does not matter..... In many ways I would say they are smart to run their team with that attitude. But these negotations are becoming publicly visible at the same time that the franchise is asking for a major investment from Hamilton County to create a new lease and secure their future on the Ohio River. This is not a good look at a time when you are holding out your hand for tax dollars and I think they need to be wise about the court of public opinion.

 

[cincygrad]

I think you guys trade him to the Lions the closer we get to draft night.

I have no issue with the club trading him. But, the value has to be there because we need to rebuild the defense. At this point I just don't see how trading him helps over the next 2 seasons which are 2 key seasons in Burrow's prime. If the Bengals would have signed the two receivers before the start of free agency and traded Trey, they could have used the freed up money to be a bigger player in FA to help their offensive line or defensive line and then planned for the draft. This path would have led to some promise for the next 2 years....But it's too late now.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I have no issue with the club trading him. But, the value has to be there because we need to rebuild the defense. At this point I just don't see how trading him helps over the next 2 seasons which are 2 key seasons in Burrow's prime. If the Bengals would have signed the two receivers before the start of free agency and traded Trey, they could have used the freed up money to be a bigger player in FA to help their offensive line or defensive line and then planned for the draft. This path would have led to some promise for the next 2 years....But it's too late now.

IMO - I don't think he gets traded.

That being said - a 2nd and a 3rd this year would do it for me.

IF you then decide to move back in round 1 and pick up another 2nd...you end up with:

1st, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd.

There is a TON of DL depth in this draft. If you don't get a high end guy at 17, and move back and pick up another 2nd...that is a lot of draft capital that this team needs. You could then, in theory:

R1 - IOL - Banks, Texas
R2 - LB - Knight, SC
R2 - DE - Sawyer, OSU
R2 - DT - Turner, A&M
R3 - IOL - Savaiinaea, Arizona
R3 - You can go a lot of ways now, here...You can find a S or another WR (Tre Harris Ole Miss would be a nice outside backup WR at 6'3-6'4 or Tez Johnson would give you an immediate slot WR over Jones, or you could go CB...

If you don't trade back, you can still land:

R1 - DE - Pearce, Tenn
R2 - LB - Knight, SC
R2 - IOL - Ratledge
R3 - IOL - Savaiinaea, Arizona
R3 - DT, S, CB...same as above.

While it would hurt to lose Trey - there could be a lot of good by going out and getting 2-3+ extra picks in a draft that is at least deep with guys that would raise the floor, if not the ceiling, along the DL.

 

[BKBroiler9000]

F Katie Blackburn.... This Hendrickson shit is pure garbage. Katie out here saying that Trey should be happy with the crap contract they are offering him. Trey mentions the next day that they basically aren't communicating with him at all and want him to sign a contract that is basically full of escalators based on team performance. I agree with Trey - Why should he put his money on the line for a team that won't start an NFL guard this season? Why would I tie my money to wins and losses for a team that isn't serious about winning. Seriously, F Katie and that whole ownership group. Bunch of assholes and I wish more players would speak out before they are done playing.

Between Troy a few years ago, and now Katie dragging Trey Hendrickson in the media with these obtuse lack of awareness comments. These clowns have done nothing but damage the already bad reputation of the organization. The family has always been and continues to be out of their depth.

Hire an actual GM, or a PR department, and get the fuck out of the way.

I said it before. Her and Troy are worse than Mike Brown. Katie was pulling this shit in all the way back in 2009 on Hard Knocks. They don’t get it. They never will. They don’t give a shit about the players or the game. Every negotiation is contentious corporate bullying of players and agents. All Katie cares about is “winning deals”. And considering the extra money she had to fork out this spring due to bad faith past negotiations. She isn’t even good at that.

I’d rather they just trade Trey at this point. The roster has so many holes. The defense was ass with Trey, it will be ass without him. This FO needs all the lottery tickets it can get. Get a couple picks and get to work adding defensive talent and OL depth.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Between Troy a few years ago, and now Katie dragging Trey Hendrickson in the media with these obtuse lack of awareness comments. These clowns have done nothing but damage the already bad reputation of the organization. The family has always been and continues to be out of their depth.

Hire an actual GM, or a PR department, and get the fuck out of the way.

I said it before. Her and Troy are worse than Mike Brown. Katie was pulling this shit in all the way back in 2009 on Hard Knocks. They don’t get it. They never will. They don’t give a shit about the players or the game. Every negotiation is contentious corporate bullying of players and agents. All Katie cares about is “winning deals”. And considering the extra money she had to fork out this spring due to bad faith past negotiations. She isn’t even good at that.

I’d rather they just trade Trey at this point. The roster has so many holes. The defense was ass with Trey, it will be ass without him. This FO needs all the lottery tickets it can get. Get a couple picks and get to work adding defensive talent and OL depth.

Need the Grand-daughter to take over. She gets it. She's the biggest reason they've actually done the ROH, and other things around the organization. She's pushed for a lot of things behind the scenes. Katie is just like Mike. A waste of an ownership.

 

[BKBroiler9000]

Need the Grand-daughter to take over. She gets it. She's the biggest reason they've actually done the ROH, and other things around the organization. She's pushed for a lot of things behind the scenes. Katie is just like Mike. A waste of an ownership.

Agreed. A pivot from the old ways “this is how we always did it” generation.

I’m still holding out a microcosm of hope that when Mike passes, Katie will finally put someone else in charge of the football operation and just own the team. Even if it’s Duke. Give him a budget, and let him do his job.

But I doubt it. She and Troy have that egotistical misplaced sense of entitlement and control.

 

[cincygrad]

Between Troy a few years ago, and now Katie dragging Trey Hendrickson in the media with these obtuse lack of awareness comments. These clowns have done nothing but damage the already bad reputation of the organization. The family has always been and continues to be out of their depth.

Hire an actual GM, or a PR department, and get the fuck out of the way.

I said it before. Her and Troy are worse than Mike Brown. Katie was pulling this shit in all the way back in 2009 on Hard Knocks. They don’t get it. They never will. They don’t give a shit about the players or the game. Every negotiation is contentious corporate bullying of players and agents. All Katie cares about is “winning deals”. And considering the extra money she had to fork out this spring due to bad faith past negotiations. She isn’t even good at that.

I’d rather they just trade Trey at this point. The roster has so many holes. The defense was ass with Trey, it will be ass without him. This FO needs all the lottery tickets it can get. Get a couple picks and get to work adding defensive talent and OL depth.

And you know this is exatly what is happening with the lease negotiation too.... As I said in another thread, I don't have faith that Hamiltion County is acting in good faith, but I know the Bengals are not.... I'm sure they have a number, they have submitted it to the County and have then said they are done negotiating. Someone should tell Katie that she should feel good about the number the County gives her.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

And you know this is exatly what is happening with the lease negotiation too.... As I said in another thread, I don't have faith that Hamiltion County is acting in good faith, but I know the Bengals are not.... I'm sure they have a number, they have submitted it to the County and have then said they are done negotiating. Someone should tell Katie that she should feel good about the number the County gives her.

If someone from the county came out and said that publicly I would laugh my fucking ass off. How great would that be?

 

[cincygrad]

Between Troy a few years ago, and now Katie dragging Trey Hendrickson in the media with these obtuse lack of awareness comments. These clowns have done nothing but damage the already bad reputation of the organization. The family has always been and continues to be out of their depth.

Hire an actual GM, or a PR department, and get the fuck out of the way.

I said it before. Her and Troy are worse than Mike Brown. Katie was pulling this shit in all the way back in 2009 on Hard Knocks. They don’t get it. They never will. They don’t give a shit about the players or the game. Every negotiation is contentious corporate bullying of players and agents. All Katie cares about is “winning deals”. And considering the extra money she had to fork out this spring due to bad faith past negotiations. She isn’t even good at that.

I’d rather they just trade Trey at this point. The roster has so many holes. The defense was ass with Trey, it will be ass without him. This FO needs all the lottery tickets it can get. Get a couple picks and get to work adding defensive talent and OL depth.

The other thing that bugs me about Katie's behavior is that it is entirely unnecessary. Even with some of the high profile contract negotiations over the past 4 years, I can't remember any of the players taking it to the media. Yeah, there have been subtle comments on twitter or there have been 'suggestions' from NFL insiders about what has or has not been offered. But no player or team representative has been pulled into the weeds to debate numbers in public. If anything, Duke's "there is only so much pie" was the most contentious point. So, why does Katie say the shit she says? What does it do for her? All she had to say is 'we would love to have Trey back. It will take some work for us and his representation to find a fair deal for both sides.' Would that be hard?