MiamiVice
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what a clown.. 5 minutes ago the browns were clearly the better franchise moving forward.. now you run like a bitch from that statement... lol
i am mad... i am mad that you are running from a bet that would make me 10k. putting money on the browns to lose has made me a lot of money over the years.
Pretty sure they were fucked up well before he got there...Oh they probably will. At least they should. Ray Farmer fucked the Browns up so badly in his short time here it's going to take at least a season or two to undo all the shit he did. However, the Browns still have a brighter future.
Yeah, well, not really much to argue with there.Pretty sure they were fucked up well before he got there...
I'm with you on this one. Orlando Pace was the best left tackle in football forever and even started for a SuperBowl winner and he isn't in the HOF.seriously.. did you just say joe thomas was going to be a first ballot HOFer? ahahahahahahahahaahahahah
I love Pace, but he's not the best LT in Pro Football forever. Thomas just turned 31 and has been a first-team all-pro 6 times. There is a very small handful of players ever who can say they achieved that feat at as young of an age as Thomas, and every single one is in the HOF. Hell, only 24 players all-time have been a first team All-Pro more times than Thomas, and every one of them is in the HOF outside of Peyton Manning, who will be.I'm with you on this one. Orlando Pace was the best left tackle in football forever and even started for a SuperBowl winner and he isn't in the HOF.
He was 7x Pro Bowl, 3x 1st team All Pro, 1x 2nd team All Pro and was on the NFL 2000's all decade team.
Joe Thomas isn't a 1st ballot hall of famer and may never make it.