Hamels Might Go

[jvett77]

I guess I wouldn't blame Cole Hamels if he really wants to be traded and get in on a once in a lifetime $200 million dollar party. After all, he achieved a championship in 2008 with the Phillies at 24 so he's done it all. He was 14-10, 3.09 that year, and went 4–0, 1.80 ERA, 30 K in the postseason and was named the series MVP. A California guy, 31 this month, maybe a change of scenery is something he's lusting for, with a real winner in 2015. I don't want to see him go but if he goes, we better get some young proven players and not any over the hill Sizemore or AJ clones, or can't-miss hopeless cases that the front office boobs misjudge.

If we keep Hamels, it means the Phils are gambling that the IFs on this team, i.e., Byrd, Brown, Asche, Lee, and perhaps a platooned Howard, even Franco, will make significant improvements over 2014. It's a risk but I can live with that for another year. I still think the Phils would be dopes to trade a 2.46, 25 QS pitcher (and 25 potential wins) with no other heavy weights on the horizon.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

I just hard that the Dodgers are interested in Rollins. Rollins has already agreed to accept the trade
if it happens. This must be real if they already asked Rollins if he would go there. Hamels and Rollins to the Dodgers? We will know soon!

 

[Retroram52]

Well, what are the Dodgers going to send us in return or is clueless Amaro going to make this a one-way deal?

 

[jvett77]

Well, what are the Dodgers going to send us in return or is clueless Amaro going to make this a one-way deal?

Rumor is we're getting two young pitchers, you know, those kind that need 5 years of minor league seasoning.

 

[Retroram52]

Yea, I know those kind of guys, jvett.

 

[jvett77]

Retro, you know LA is probably trying real hard to get Hamels. Hope the Phillies front office is fully awake and lucid in the discussions.

 

[Deano]

Now send Hamels to Boston if Bogaerts is in the deal.

 

[Retroram52]

I think asking for a lucid FO is going way too far jvett. That is simply not in the repertoire of capabilities.

 

[jvett77]

lol. Well fully caffeinated, then.

 

[jvett77]

Now send Hamels to Boston if Bogaerts is in the deal.

Has Boston given up already on Xander Bogaerts? In his first full year he hit .240, .297 OBP with 12 HRs.

 

[Deano]

Has Boston given up already on Xander Bogaerts? In his first full year he hit .240, .297 OBP with 12 HRs.

I hope so. The kid is a stud and he's the next ARod.

In my perfect dream world, we trade Hamel's to Boston for Bogaerts and Betts (I know but it's my dream).

We put Bogaerts at SS for one year until Crawford comes up, then he moves to 3B. Franco moves to 1B. I asche plays 3B for one year until Utley leaves, then he goes to 2B. Betts starts in CF. Somehow we find two corner outfielders since Byrd gets dealt.

Gives you a 2016 lineup of :

Betts
Asche
Bogaerts
Franco
Crawford
C
LF
RF
P

Leaves lots of holes and lots of ifs buts lot more potential than what they are trotting out there now.

 

[jvett77]

I hope so. The kid is a stud and he's the next ARod.

In my perfect dream world, we trade Hamel's to Boston for Bogaerts and Betts (I know but it's my dream).

Betts is listed as 5' 9", 156 lbs. He may have a noodle arm?

 

[Retroram52]

Man, is LA doing trades at the winter meetings or what?

 

[Deano]

Betts is listed as 5' 9", 156 lbs. He may have a noodle arm?

Not according to the guys who get paid to watch.