Greatest Giants Shortstop in Franchise History

[calsnowskier]

I love Craw. He is one of my favorite Giants ever (top 5, probably).

But is he the greatest SS in Giants history? That monicker has been thrown at him as an absolute unquestioned fact a lot the last couple years.

But I think that is false. And it really isn’t even that close.

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Jackson was a BEAST. The problem is that he played in NY. But it wasn’t in the 1800s. Why is he a complete unknown? He needs more love.

 

[LHG]

I love Craw. He is one of my favorite Giants ever (top 5, probably).

But is he the greatest SS in Giants history? That monicker has been thrown at him as an absolute unquestioned fact a lot the last couple years.

But I think that is false. And it really isn’t even that close.

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Jackson was a BEAST. The problem is that he played in NY. But it wasn’t in the 1800s. Why is he a complete unknown? He needs more love.

I wonder who else has talked about him recently? Name sounds slightly familiar.

 

[calsnowskier]

I wonder who else has talked about him recently? Name sounds slightly familiar.

He got on my radar only about 5 or 6 years ago. I have heard his name mentioned in very brief passing on the radio a few times, but never as the focus of whatever was being discussed.

 

[calsnowskier]

Jackson, George Davis, Rich Aurilia, …

Maybe Speier or Omar or Uribe…

I think the top four are Jackson, Davis, Aurilia and Craw. Am I missing anyone?

 

[LHG]

Jackson, George Davis, Rich Aurilia, …

Maybe Speier or Omar or Uribe…

I think the top four are Jackson, Davis, Aurilia and Craw. Am I missing anyone?

I would agree with your top 4. I ranked Davis higher but I know you don't like players from the 1800s.

Consensus All-Time Giants Team

That certainly cleaned up the pitching, both the SPs and the BP. I don't know how easily you could do this with your data and methodology, but I would be curious, for the everyday players, if you looked at the top 25 or even 50 seasons for each position, then look who had the most for each...

sportshoop.la

 

[calsnowskier]

I would agree with your top 4. I ranked Davis higher but I know you don't like players from the 1800s.

Consensus All-Time Giants Team

That certainly cleaned up the pitching, both the SPs and the BP. I don't know how easily you could do this with your data and methodology, but I would be curious, for the everyday players, if you looked at the top 25 or even 50 seasons for each position, then look who had the most for each...

sportshoop.la

I forgot about that thread. Great re-read.

 

[LHG]

I forgot about that thread. Great re-read.

I forgot about it too until I saw you mention Jackson. To be honest, I didn't really know anything about him until I did my research.

 

[calsnowskier]

I forgot about it too until I saw you mention Jackson. To be honest, I didn't really know anything about him until I did my research.

Every once in a while, this board puts up some journalistic-level quality discussions. That thread may be one of them.

 

[LHG]

Every once in a while, this board puts up some journalistic-level quality discussions. That thread may be one of them.

And then there are times where we resort to gifs and call each other alts.

 

[calsnowskier]

And then there are times where we resort to gifs and call each other alts.

 

[tzill]

It's Jackson and Fletcher as 1 and 1a, then Craw.

Nobody else really close.

 

[calsnowskier]

It's Jackson and Fletcher as 1 and 1a, then Craw.

Nobody else really close.

I can see Fletcher in the discussion. But not sure you can have a discussion without Davis.

I could go Jackson/Davis, Craw, Aurilia, Fletcher.

 

[tzill]

I can see Fletcher in the discussion. But not sure you can have a discussion without Davis.

I could go Jackson/Davis, Craw, Aurilia, Fletcher.

I stand corrected. I forgot Davis. He's in tier 1 with Jax and Fletch

Then Craw

Then everybody else. Aurilia/Dark/Speier/Bartell...

Fletch being the best defender of the bunch.

 

[calsnowskier]

I stand corrected. I forgot Davis. He's in tier 1 with Jax and Fletch

Then Craw

Then everybody else. Aurilia/Dark/Speier/Bartell...

Fletch being the best defender of the bunch.

Did you watch him play? How do you know he was the best defender? I wouldn’t trust any news stories from the day because they were just flowery stories told by “newsies”.

 

[LHG]

Did you watch him play? How do you know he was the best defender? I wouldn’t trust any news stories from the day because they were just flowery stories told by “newsies”.

tzill is older than I thought.

 

[MarcoPolo]

I was really impressed when Rich Aurilia won the silver slugger award. Because of his comment/speech . His comment was something like "it's a good thing I don't play in the American league". That's class.

 

[LHG]

I was really impressed when Rich Aurilia won the silver slugger award. Because of his comment/speech . His comment was something like "it's a good thing I don't play in the American league". That's class.

Marco, good to hear from you. See you soon?

 

[msgkings322]

Is it too soon to add DeJong to the list of greatest shortstops in franchise history?

 

[LHG]

Is it too soon to add DeJong to the list of greatest shortstops in franchise history?

I think he added himself after that home run. There is no competition now on who is the greatest.

 

[tzill]

Is it too soon to add DeJong to the list of greatest shortstops in franchise history?

Nah.....