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Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

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Actually a better example: When you are playing a video game do you use cheat codes to beat the game, or take the time and effort to actually finish the game to find a sense of accomplishment. I'm guessing you use cheat codes. :suds:
No sir, I don't play video games.

Like I said if you don't agree, you just don't agree. I don't have to explain or prove to you how long I've been a fan of either team I follow. But, I will tell you this. For the record I've been a Warrior fan when they were a losing team and caught flack for that on another sports forum. Ask Mecca, she'll tell you. I've been a fan of the Lakers even when they were winning and losing- when Kobe was playing with the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. So, it was nice when they finally won again. Regardless, I still repped them. Now, fast forward and I'm taking flack here too. Go figure.
 

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No sir, I don't play video games.

Like I said if you don't agree, you just don't agree. I don't have to explain or prove to you how long I've been a fan of either team I follow. But, I will tell you this. For the record I've been a Warrior fan when they were a losing team and caught flack for that on another sports forum. Ask Mecca, she'll tell you. I've been a fan of the Lakers even when they were winning and losing- when Kobe was playing with the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. So, it was nice when they finally won again. Regardless, I still repped them. Now, fast forward and I'm taking flack here too. Go figure.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, not my problem lol
 

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No sir, I don't play video games.

Like I said if you don't agree, you just don't agree. I don't have to explain or prove to you how long I've been a fan of either team I follow. But, I will tell you this. For the record I've been a Warrior fan when they were a losing team and caught flack for that on another sports forum. Ask Mecca, she'll tell you. I've been a fan of the Lakers even when they were winning and losing- when Kobe was playing with the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown. So, it was nice when they finally won again. Regardless, I still repped them. Now, fast forward and I'm taking flack here too. Go figure.

:burt: Not the point
 

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I am sorta new so I wasn't here for the regular season, but I've never heard a single Cavs fan say he left Miami because of the roster. It was about coming home and winning a title for his hometown fans. If anything, you'd think he'd be much more capable of attracting top notch free agents to South Beach than Cleveland.

He's also not alone out there. If he had lost Wade and Bosh in Miami, yeah he's definitely alone. However, without Kyrie and Love, he still has a rising Tristan Thompson, Mozgov, JR Smith and Iman Shumpert, all of whom are better than what he was working with in Miami outside of Bosh and Wade.


If you say you weren't here and didn't see it, fine.
But it was, and still is. Prob mostly Wiggy, but still others for sure.

And if you actually think that's why he came back, please don't take calls from anyone saying you won the Nigerian lottery...just send them a couple thousand in fees (because it's bullshit).


I think I'll live with the champion pedigree of the Ray Allens, Shane Battiers, Mike Miller (Heat version), U.D., Birdman, Chalmers, and whoever else actually helped WIN multiple titles.

Let's check back to this post after the next 3,4 or however many games it takes for the Warriors to win and tell me how your "rising" players are doing.
 

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If you say you weren't here and didn't see it, fine.
But it was, and still is. Prob mostly Wiggy, but still others for sure.

And if you actually think that's why he came back, please don't take calls from anyone saying you won the Nigerian lottery...just send them a couple thousand in fees (because it's bullshit).


I think I'll live with the champion pedigree of the Ray Allens, Shane Battiers, Mike Miller (Heat version), U.D., Birdman, Chalmers, and whoever else actually helped WIN multiple titles.

Let's check back to this post after the next 3,4 or however many games it takes for the Warriors to win and tell me how your "rising" players are doing.

They have half of a roster, I dont see how this makes a valid point and you know it. Stop acting like this half of a roster means anything especially the way GS is playing. Miami wouldnt have had a chance without Bosh, and hobbled Wade.
 

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If you say you weren't here and didn't see it, fine.
But it was, and still is. Prob mostly Wiggy, but still others for sure.

And if you actually think that's why he came back, please don't take calls from anyone saying you won the Nigerian lottery...just send them a couple thousand in fees (because it's bullshit).


I think I'll live with the champion pedigree of the Ray Allens, Shane Battiers, Mike Miller (Heat version), U.D., Birdman, Chalmers, and whoever else actually helped WIN multiple titles.

Let's check back to this post after the next 3,4 or however many games it takes for the Warriors to win and tell me how your "rising" players are doing.

LOL First off, if you have some inside info from Lebron about why he came back, please, oh please, let me know.


Also, aside from Ray Allen, those guys were nothing. Without Bosh and Wade, those Heat teams never would've even made it out of the first round. They never had to help win big-time games with just Lebron.

This Cavs team without Love and Kyrie (for the most part) beat Atlanta 4 straight. You trot out a starting 5 of Shumpert, JR Smith, Lebron, TT and Mozgov and they can still play with just about anyone on both sides of the ball. Throw out a starting lineup of Chalmers, Ray Allen, Lebron, Birdman and Haslem and you're worse off than any other team Lebron has ever played with.
 

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I am sorta new so I wasn't here for the regular season, but I've never heard a single Cavs fan say he left Miami because of the roster.

The first part of your sentence explains the second part. Cavs fans were saying that a big part of the reason Lebron left was because of D-Wade's injury issues and having to carry too much of the load.

And yet, here he is again, with an injured guard and power forward and once again, having to carry too much of the load.
 

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I know the big men arent hurt, TT and Mozgov but wonder if they bring Varajeo back??
I doubt they do and risk another injury but it is another option as a big man.
 

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The first part of your sentence explains the second part. Cavs fans were saying that a big part of the reason Lebron left was because of D-Wade's injury issues and having to carry too much of the load.

And yet, here he is again, with an injured guard and power forward and once again, having to carry too much of the load.

While it was about injuries, it was mainly an age factor, especially the role players. Wade is at the end of his career, while Kyrie and Love arent. That is the difference, injuries or not.
 

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The first part of your sentence explains the second part. Cavs fans were saying that a big part of the reason Lebron left was because of D-Wade's injury issues and having to carry too much of the load.

And yet, here he is again, with an injured guard and power forward and once again, having to carry too much of the load.

Then it literally must have only been Cavs fans on this website. I live in the Cleveland area and never heard that come up once from anyone here or anywhere else I've traveled.

Think about it: If his reason for leaving Miami was because Wade was injured too often, why would he come to Cleveland with Kyrie, who is injured too often? Doesn't it make sense that it would've been something else, as in what I said earlier?
 

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I know the big men arent hurt, TT and Mozgov but wonder if they bring Varajeo back??
I doubt they do and risk another injury but it is another option as a big man.

I don't see the positive. With him being still hobbled, he doesn't really offer much more upside than Kendrick Perkins or Brendan Haywood at this point.
 

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You can say what you want about injuries, I know he didnt play at Duke but it isnt as bad as people think.

11-12 51
12-13 59
13-14 71
14-15 75

That's games played and started. They are mainly minor injuries, this one has been at the worst time. It could be bc he isnt used to playing extra games or for other reasons. Hopefully he will come out stronger next year and Blatt can play his minutes more carefully like Coach Pop does idk
 

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I don't see the positive. With him being still hobbled, he doesn't really offer much more upside than Kendrick Perkins or Brendan Haywood at this point.

I thought he was pretty much fully healed
 

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While it was about injuries, it was mainly an age factor, especially the role players. Wade is at the end of his career, while Kyrie and Love arent. That is the difference, injuries or not.

Injuries are injuries. Love is out and Kyrie likely is. It doesn't matter how old they are, they aren't playing because of injuries, which is one of the reasons Cavs fans said he left Miami.

Basically, Cavs fans said he left because Wade was "old and injured all the time."

Now he's in Cleveland with Kyrie, who's "young and injured all the time."
 

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Injuries are injuries. Love is out and Kyrie likely is. It doesn't matter how old they are, they aren't playing because of injuries, which is one of the reasons Cavs fans said he left Miami.

Basically, Cavs fans said he left because Wade was "old and injured all the time."

Now he's in Cleveland with Kyrie, who's "young and injured all the time."

He isnt injured all the time, that is definitely exaggerated.
 
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