Golden Knights Name Change?

[jstewismybastardson]

Keep the Golden, but change "Knights" to "Seals" and bring back these gorgeous jerseys...

/Of course, then the Navy might get mad about Seals

update the logo with a clubbed bloody seal

 

[Calm]

Before announcing their name for their hockey club, the owners made an inadequate discovery effort. If they did discover the Army parachuting team and elected to ignore it, then, they are at fault for doing so. By using the name of the Army parachute team, they encourage false association among reasonable people. Doing so without prior agreement injures the Army parachute team by diluting their brand. Accordingly, the hockey team's legal position is weak.

I am baffled by the number of posters who dismiss proprietary precedence, favor the hockey usurpers, and dismiss the US Army's position. [Just because the hockey team is presently winning?] The US Army is bigger than the NHL. They've deep pockets. The hockey team would do well to mitigate the situation rather than continue to contest it.

Ask yourself, do you want to be the ones who disrespect the US Army? Do you think your fortunes will rise when the public views you as doing so?

As the post on page 1 indicates, there is nothing that says duplicate trademarks can't exist and there are currently several "Golden Knights" trademarks. Is the Army only going after the team because they are presently winning? Why aren't they going after the other trademark holders?

And no one is "disrespecting" anything, despite your obvious bias. Never heard the phrase "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"?

 

[Tin Man]

 

[elocomotive]

Before announcing their name for their hockey club, the owners made an inadequate discovery effort. If they did discover the Army parachuting team and elected to ignore it, then, they are at fault for doing so. By using the name of the Army parachute team, they encourage false association among reasonable people. Doing so without prior agreement injures the Army parachute team by diluting their brand. Accordingly, the hockey team's legal position is weak.

Actually it's pretty strong as consumer confusion is the standard and seems unlikely in this case. First to file applies to patent law, but not trademark law. "Adequate discovery effort" is not a standard in this area of law. It is perfectly legal to file for and/or use a trademark already in use. It happens all the time.

I am baffled by the number of posters who dismiss proprietary precedence, favor the hockey usurpers, and dismiss the US Army's position. [Just because the hockey team is presently winning?] The US Army is bigger than the NHL. They've deep pockets. The hockey team would do well to mitigate the situation rather than continue to contest it.

No its not. I'm sure most of us not being fans of the Golden Knights' hockey club would prefer they be losing. You are mistaken about how trademark law works.

Ask yourself, do you want to be the ones who disrespect the US Army? Do you think your fortunes will rise when the public views you as doing so?

I don't see how it disrespects the Army at all. Using the same name does not disrespect them, if anything mascots and team names are often an homage to the group they represent. And frankly, a lot of us have now heard of the army parachutists and might like to see them, something we would have never known existed were it not for the hockey team existing.

 

[broncosmitty]

The Army Golden Knights have two main teams who compete in National and International parachuting competitions.

What?


Parachuting competitions?


Somebody should sue the Army for going to competitions. That's just weird.

 

[forty_three]

New York Giants and New York football Giants.

And there's a team called the San Francisco Giants.

So is this going to hurt the chances of Vegas getting a second team on the north end of the strip?

No, that will be easy. They will be the Las Vegas Other Team.

What the heck is in that logo?

The predecessor to the Buffalo Slug.

If there was a dog version they could be called the Ruff Riders! LMAO! Hilarious.

Puppy Bowl MCDVXCII Champions, if I remember correctly. The QB was Doug Poodlie

 

[broncosmitty]

The Detroit Tigers are named after an Army outfit.


Nobody was mad.

The Michigan Wolverines are named after our territorial militia. It's all good.


Im kinda disappointed in the Army tbh.

 

[elocomotive]

Also worth noting, the Golden Knights has never been registered as a trademark by the Army. That doesn't mean they don't have protection as you don't have to register to have protection.

If both parties were smart here, the hockey team could reach a promotional deal with the Army and it's a win-win for all sides.

 

[elocomotive]

Im kinda disappointed in the Army tbh.

Cynical consumer says both parties are using this for mutual promotion. Otherwise, why did the Army wait so long to object to the mark, which was filed in August of 2016 and known to the public for more than a year now? And why has the Army never registered the trademark? And the Army's objection is only to the registration, which would still not stop the Vegas hockey team from its "use" of the mark.

Something smells fishy.

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[broncosmitty]

Cynical consumer says both parties are using this for mutual promotion. Otherwise, why did the Army wait so long to object to the mark, which was filed in August of 2016 and known to the public for more than a year now? And why has the Army never registered the trademark? And the Army's objection is only to the registration, which would still not stop the Vegas hockey team from its "use" of the mark.

Something smells fishy.

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They don't want a name change. They want money.

Or they want free promotions or a themed uniform.

I don't like it. As you said, we all have gained knowledge on these parachuting Golden Knights because of the hockey team.

 

[Tin Man]

why did the Army wait so long to object to the mark, which was filed in August of 2016 and known to the public for more than a year now?

We are talking about the US Army... Do you recall the development, deployment, and efforts to replace the Bradley Fighting Vehicle?

 

[Tin Man]

Sidebar: Shall we discuss the rehabilitation of the Washington Redskins brand? It's a simple as exchanging a depiction of a native American for a peanut. Win win!

 

[Calm]

We are talking about the US Army... Do you recall the development, deployment, and efforts to replace the Bradley Fighting Vehicle?

UCF went by Golden Knights for almost 15 years. Where was the Army then?

 

[Comeds]

While we are at it, what a waste of time and lots of money air shows are.

 

[Tin Man]

UCF went by Golden Knights for almost 15 years. Where was the Army then?

West Point, NY.

 

[Calm]

West Point, NY.

But were they filing a complaint against UCF, or is this selective enforcement?

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Why not just go with Silver Knights.
Sort of an association with their soon to be fellow pro franchise, Las Vegas Raiders.
If not , they can always dump the Golden from their moniker, and just simply be the Knights.

 

[dash]

Why not just go with Silver Knights.
Sort of an association with their soon to be fellow pro franchise, Las Vegas Raiders.
If not , they can always dump the Golden from their moniker, and just simply be the Knights.

Knights has been copyrighted by the junior hockey team in London, Ontario. The name Knights would be fine for the States, but it wouldn't fly in Canada.

Trademark issues have been the cause of the delay in a team name, as the team’s owner Bill Foley and the league look to get beyond this hurdle.

The latest surrounds ‘The Knights,’ which has become an unlikely option, Foley told the Las Vegas Review Journal, because of the London Knights name in the Ontario Hockey League.

“The London Knights own the name in Canada and to acquire the name from London is not economically feasible,” said Foley, adding there should be “clarity” on the name issue in the next 30 days. “In the U.S., ‘Knights’ are fine. But we can’t use it in Canada.”

Foley: Las Vegas NHL team can’t use ‘Knights’ nickname in Canada

 

[jstewismybastardson]

“The London Knights own the name in Canada and to acquire the name from London is not economically feasible,” said Foley, adding there should be “clarity” on the name issue in the next 30 days. “In the U.S., ‘Knights’ are fine. But we can’t use it in Canada.”

Foley: Las Vegas NHL team can’t use ‘Knights’ nickname in Canada

caman ... write the cheque dollar Bill !!!

 

[OregonDucks]

They stole Army's mascot and stole UCF's logo.

C'mon Vegas, you're VEGAS, be creative and original.