Gold Glove, shmold glove

[steveringo]

Blah, blah, blah....

Finalists:

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Pitcher
Mark Buehrle, Blue Jays
R.A. Dickey, Blue Jays
Doug Fister, Tigers
Catcher
Joe Mauer, Twins
Salvador Perez, Royals
Matt Wieters, Orioles
First base
Chris Davis, Orioles
Eric Hosmer, Royals
James Loney, Rays
Second base
Robinson Cano, Yankees
Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
Ben Zobrist, Rays
Third base
Adrian Beltre, Rangers
Evan Longoria, Rays
Manny Machado, Orioles
Shortstop
Alcides Escobar, Royals
Yunel Escobar, Rays
J.J. Hardy, Orioles
Left field
Yoenis Cespedes, A's
Andy Dirks, Tigers
Alex Gordon, Royals
Center field
Lorenzo Cain, Royals
Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox
Adam Jones, Orioles
Right field
Nick Markakis, Orioles
Shane Victorino, Red Sox
Josh Reddick, A's

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Pitcher
Patrick Corbin, D-backs
Zack Greinke, Dodgers
Adam Wainwright, Cardinals
Catcher
A.J. Ellis, Dodgers
Russell Martin, Pirates
Yadier Molina, Cardinals
First base
Paul Goldschmidt, D-backs
Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers
Anthony Rizzo, Cubs
Second base
Darwin Barney, Cubs
Brandon Phillips, Reds
Mark Ellis, Dodgers
Third base
Nolan Arenado, Rockies
Juan Uribe, Dodgers
David Wright, Mets
Shortstop
Ian Desmond, Nationals
Andrelton Simmons, Braves
Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies
Left field
Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies
Starling Marte, Pirates
Eric Young Jr., Mets
Center field
Carlos Gomez, Brewers
Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
Denard Span, Nationals
Right field
Jay Bruce, Reds
Jason Heyward, Braves
Gerardo Parra, D-backs

 

[navamind]

Can't really argue with the finalists.

 

[Cobiemonster]

The 3rd base finalists in the NL aren't too great after David Wright

I've stopped taking the gold glove awards seriously

 

[uncfan103]

The 3rd base finalists in the NL aren't too great after David Wright

I've stopped taking the gold glove awards seriously

Statistically, David Wright is the worst of the three. Nolan Arenado and Juan Uribe were statistically two of the best fielders in all of the majors.

 

[broncosmitty]

This award can be discontinued at anytime. But it won't be.

 

[uncfan103]

Blah, blah, blah....

Finalists:

AMERICAN LEAGUE

Pitcher
Mark Buehrle, Blue Jays
R.A. Dickey, Blue Jays
Doug Fister, Tigers

Catcher
Joe Mauer, Twins
Salvador Perez, Royals
Matt Wieters, Orioles

1st
Chris Davis, Orioles
Eric Hosmer, Royals
James Loney, Rays
***Kinda surprised Napoli isn't here

2nd
Robinson Cano, Yankees
Dustin Pedroia, Red Sox
Ben Zobrist, Rays

Third base
Adrian Beltre, Rangers
Evan Longoria, Rays
Manny Machado, Orioles --> Platinum Glove

Shortstop
Alcides Escobar, Royals
Yunel Escobar, Rays
J.J. Hardy, Orioles
***Can't really go wrong with either Escobar

Left field
Yoenis Cespedes, A's
Andy Dirks, Tigers
Alex Gordon, Royals

Center field
Lorenzo Cain, Royals
Jacoby Ellsbury, Red Sox
Adam Jones, Orioles

Right field
Nick Markakis, Orioles
Shane Victorino, Red Sox
Josh Reddick, A's

NATIONAL LEAGUE
Pitcher
Patrick Corbin, D-backs
Zack Greinke, Dodgers
Adam Wainwright, Cardinals
**Mike Leake is missing, IMO

Catcher
A.J. Ellis, Dodgers
Russell Martin, Pirates
Yadier Molina, Cardinals

First base
Paul Goldschmidt, D-backs
Adrian Gonzalez, Dodgers
Anthony Rizzo, Cubs

Second base
Darwin Barney, Cubs
Brandon Phillips, Reds
Mark Ellis, Dodgers

Third base
Nolan Arenado, Rockies
Juan Uribe, Dodgers
David Wright, Mets
***Uribe and Arenado are both good options

Shortstop
Ian Desmond, Nationals
Andrelton Simmons, Braves--> Platinum Glove
Troy Tulowitzki, Rockies

Left field
Carlos Gonzalez, Rockies
Starling Marte, Pirates
Eric Young Jr., Mets

Center field
Carlos Gomez, Brewers
Andrew McCutchen, Pirates
Denard Span, Nationals

Right field
Jay Bruce, Reds
Jason Heyward, Braves
Gerardo Parra, D-backs

These are just what I think based on looking at statistics. There are a lot of positions that have two good defensive players that stand out and some positions where it's kind of tough to award one of them a gold glove.

 

[Darkstone42]

Arenado is a wizard with the glove. I really enjoy watching him play defense.

Not sure about Cano, but otherwise the list seems reasonable.

 

[uncfan103]

Arenado is a wizard with the glove. I really enjoy watching him play defense.

Not sure about Cano, but otherwise the list seems reasonable.

I agree with you on both of those things.

 

[broncosmitty]

Andy Dirks is the 4th best outfielder on his team. Seriously.

 

[BigDDude]

It could have been A LOT worse. They could have decided to give one to Jeter this year anyway.

 

[Brahmsian]

2b Pedroia, 3b Longoria, CF Ellsbury, undecided on the other positions.

 

[Bulldog]

Surprised I didn't see Mike Trout's name on the list. I guess since he split time in CF and LF he didn't qualify for either.

 

[uncfan103]

Andy Dirks is the 4th best outfielder on his team. Seriously.

Based on what? Advanced statistics show he's quite a bit better than both Torii Hunter and Austin Jackson.

 

[uncfan103]

2b Pedroia, 3b Longoria, CF Ellsbury, undecided on the other positions.

 

[BigDDude]

Surprised I didn't see Mike Trout's name on the list. I guess since he split time in CF and LF he didn't qualify for either.

That would be the only thing that makes sense to me.

 

[uncfan103]

Surprised I didn't see Mike Trout's name on the list. I guess since he split time in CF and LF he didn't qualify for either.

He's qualified in center (almost 200 more inning in CF than Lorenzo Cain), but didn't have a great year. That being said, it was drastically better than Adam Jones. The top 5 CFs according to UZR were
1. Lorezno Cain
2. Colby Rasmus
3. Leonys Martin
4. Jacoby Ellsbury
5. Brandon Barnes
last. Adam Jones

 

[da55bums]

These are just what I think based on looking at statistics. There are a lot of positions that have two good defensive players that stand out and some positions where it's kind of tough to award one of them a gold glove.

you really didn't just pick Andy Dirks?...sorta blew it, didn't read any after that.

 

[BigDDude]

you really didn't just pick Andy Dirks?...sorta blew it, didn't read any after that.

Well, the people that give out the award are not always anywhere near right or on point themselves.

See - Palmeiro, Rafael 1999.

 

[navamind]

Well, the people that give out the award are not always anywhere near right or on point themselves.

See - Palmeiro, Rafael 1999.

But they're managers and you aren't! Clearly their opinion means more than your's. :rollseyes:

 

[BigDDude]

But they're managers and you aren't! Clearly their opinion means more than your's. :rollseyes:

I have said this many times in other places, and I feel the same about a lot of the folks I have dealt with here on this site over the past 6 months.

There certainly are otherwise average Joe posters that know more and have better insight than many of the paid professional talking heads out there. And, other than having favorite teams, we posters have no special agendas when we post.

JMO.