Gerhart or Sankey?

[Brees#1]

how do you know this? I certainly don't. Would I bet the farm on it? Probably not, but he's got just as good of a chance as Sankey does, and no learning curve. He's ready to go.

Its Jacksonville. Thats why. I'm not sure why Jacksonville could not move the ball at home last year but could on the road. I don't know what was going on. They only played well against a team that quit(Houston) at home last year. Can we say Gerhart will rush for 120 yards at home against the colts week 3 or 60 against Pittsburgh week 5? I do not know if it was blackouts or no heart that caused it. Are Jacksonville fans that excited to the point that ticket sales are going up? Because if more blackouts happen it could be dejavue.

Sankey is running under Ken Wisenhut's coaching. MM was different. Locker I don't believe in and I'll give you one reason why. In college he was not that mature. I credit Verner for those three or four big wins more than Locker. And he will not have him now.

 

[Brees#1]

you dont know for sure but a 27 year old who gets his first chance to be a #1, i just dont have the faith in him to be a stud... Never said i wouldn't want him on my team, but i dont see him at best to be a low end fantasy #2... Sankey is the mystery box here, i feel like with his role he is already at worst a flex option, so why not take the gamble he will be better vs a player like Gerhart who has a lower ceiling...


again, sometimes mystery boxes are better than the sure thing...

wouldn't you rather have Sammy Watkins than Mike Wallace?? I know i do!!!

While Mike Wallace did get off to a bad start, he was much better in the second half and RT forced the ball to him more.

 

[averagejoe]

Sankey - recent reports suggest that he will split time with Greene as well as Jackie Battle. And consider that some are suggesting that Locker takes a step forward (perhaps not a giant step mind you), which will take less away from the run game. I respect HC Ken Whisenhunt. He seems to focus on his team strengths, and for this season (similar to what he did in San Diego last season), it may be Locker, Hunter and Walker over Sankey, Greene and Battle.

Gerhart - He's older. And he plays for a bad Jaguars team. Not sure if anyone realizes, but its not like the Vikings were a juggernaut (sorry, Chef). In relief of AP, Gerhart put up very similar numbers as AP, which isn't bad. He may be older, but he doesn't have the mileage.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Sankey - recent reports suggest that he will split time with Greene as well as Jackie Battle. And consider that some are suggesting that Locker takes a step forward (perhaps not a giant step mind you), which will take less away from the run game. I respect HC Ken Whisenhunt. He seems to focus on his team strengths, and for this season (similar to what he did in San Diego last season), it may be Locker, Hunter and Walker over Sankey, Greene and Battle.

Gerhart - He's older. And he plays for a bad Jaguars team. Not sure if anyone realizes, but its not like the Vikings were a juggernaut (sorry, Chef). In relief of AP, Gerhart put up very similar numbers as AP, which isn't bad. He may be older, but he doesn't have the mileage.

the vikings were a run first team though, since they had the best RB in football for the past years... Gerhart only continued the run game... Jacksonville is not going to be a running team, because they are not built that way, nor do they have the RB to be that type of team... They are not good... And Gerhart is a bruiser, not a playmaker... I dont know if a bad team can have a bruiser RB as their number one and have a successful running game...

Can someone give me an example of a bruiser type back being the number one for a bad team and that team having a successful running game??

 

[TKOSpikes]

Zac Stacy.

I'm not sure if I consider Gerhart a "bruiser". He is an exceptional back in the receiving/3rd down game. Plus, you're talking like the Titans aren't a bad team...they are.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Zac Stacy.

I'm not sure if I consider Gerhart a "bruiser". He is an exceptional back in the receiving/3rd down game. Plus, you're talking like the Titans aren't a bad team...they are.

I know the titans are bad, but as i have stated if they are both similar preseason ranked, i would rather go mystery box... I just dont have enough faith in Gerhart that i would take him over the top projected rookie RB...

 

[Chef99]

I have to admit Joe has a point about Gerhart looking good when AP was under the weather...and they stacked the box against him as well. Could be that he has just never really had the chance to fully show what he can do. As Treff mentioned awhile back, he certainly has the pedigree.

 

[TREFF]

the vikings were a run first team though, since they had the best RB in football for the past years... Gerhart only continued the run game... Jacksonville is not going to be a running team, because they are not built that way, nor do they have the RB to be that type of team... They are not good... And Gerhart is a bruiser, not a playmaker... I dont know if a bad team can have a bruiser RB as their number one and have a successful running game...

Can someone give me an example of a bruiser type back being the number one for a bad team and that team having a successful running game??

So when did they blow the whole thing up from Fred Taylor to MJD to now? When did they get a QB and some weapons at WR?? THEY'VE ALWAYS been a running team. . With the possible exception of when Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell were there. Sure they drafted those positions, but Bortles isn't starting for awhile and any receiver worthy of mentioning is a rookie. They'll still be a run first team, if for no other reason than they just don't have anything else yet.

A defensive coordinator for a head coach, an offensive cooridinator groomed under Carrol, Shannahan and Billick... This team is running the ball.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

So when did they blow the whole thing up from Fred Taylor to MJD to now? When did they get a QB and some weapons at WR?? THEY'VE ALWAYS been a running team. . With the possible exception of when Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell were there. Sure they drafted those positions, but Bortles isn't starting for awhile and any receiver worthy of mentioning is a rookie. They'll still be a run first team, if for no other reason than they just don't have anything else yet.

A defensive coordinator for a head coach, an offensive cooridinator groomed under Carrol, Shannahan and Billick... This team is running the ball.

fine, you won that argument...

But still i just dont like Gerhart more than the mystery of the box.... Monty hall has nothing on me...

 

[TREFF]

fine, you won that argument...

But still i just dont like Gerhart more than the mystery of the box.... Monty hall has nothing on me...

Lol.. wow. . Never seen you give up on a point so easily. You feeling ok?

 

[wilwhite]

I'm with both Milk and Treff.

1. The Jags will be bad enough in the passing game that they'll have to rely more on the running game
2. The Jags will not have a good running game

However, I still have Gerhart higher than Sankey.

I have Sankey third among the rookie RBs.

 

[mrwallace2ku]

One things for sure...

Gerhart WILL BE blocking for Sankey heading into the weakside tackle hole at some point in time..

 

[#1BostonFan]

I'm not big on either.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I'm with both Milk and Treff.

1. The Jags will be bad enough in the passing game that they'll have to rely more on the running game
2. The Jags will not have a good running game

However, I still have Gerhart higher than Sankey.

I have Sankey third among the rookie RBs.

Who do you have over sankey in preseason value?? I can understand thinking some will come up to relevance, but how do you predict injuries and other ways for backups to become the number one??

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Lol.. wow. . Never seen you give up on a point so easily. You feeling ok?

I only gave up on the point of me saying that the Jaguars are not built to be a running team... you using MJD as proof is enough of a reason to admit i was wrong...

But that still doesnt make me not want to take the mystery box over gerhart


i have used mystery box so often on this thread you would think i would be a wayne Brady fan.... I hate that guy... Monty hall was great though, only loses to richard dawson and the legend of BoB Barker in amazing gameshow hosts...

 

[wilwhite]

Monty hall was great though, only loses to richard dawson and the legend of BoB Barker in amazing gameshow hosts...

That's a weird list to keep, Milk.

As to the other question - you should be able to suss out my answer on some of the other threads.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

That's a weird list to keep, Milk.

As to the other question - you should be able to suss out my answer on some of the other threads.

I keep weirder lists than that.. you should see my book of lists... its the top ranked book in my library...

 

[TREFF]

Who do you have over sankey in preseason value?? I can understand thinking some will come up to relevance, but how do you predict injuries and other ways for backups to become the number one??

From what I've seen. .I do believe he doesn't think Sankey will be a #1.. thus the other guys may not need to rise and be a #1, rather just do more with what they get. And I have a hard time arguing against that given the presence of Greene and Battle... which is the single biggest reason I like Toby over Sankey.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

From what I've seen. .I do believe he doesn't think Sankey will be a #1.. thus the other guys may not need to rise and be a #1, rather just do more with what they get. And I have a hard time arguing against that given the presence of Greene and Battle... which is the single biggest reason I like Toby over Sankey.

of course drafting is all your preference and what information you accept to be true... If you dont think sankey will be the number one and Gerhart will be, then it would be silly to draft sankey over gerhart...

But i dont believe that sankey will not be the number one... at least not with the reports now... The reports about Stacy might not being the number one is already done, i see the news that shonn greene will be the one will end very soon...

The titans put too much into sankey not to consider it his job to lose... Not to mention Greene and Battle are nothing more than backups...

 

[wilwhite]

The titans put too much into sankey not to consider it his job to lose... Not to mention Greene and Battle are nothing more than backups...

It's not like they traded a couple of future #1 picks to get him. He was a late second-round pick. Greene was a starter in his '11 and '12 with your Jets, and rushed for 1000 yds and 6+ TDs both years.

Battle is a backup - but don't count out McCluster, who's a great passing-down back (coming off two 50-catch seasons with the Chiefs).

you should see my book of lists... its the top ranked book in my library...

All right, that's funny.