GDT #18 - Avalanche at Sharks - 7:30PM

[SJVP408]

another, exciting, sharks shootout.

 

[MrChangoT97]

Happy happy joy joy!

Another shoot out for the sharks!

 

[MrChangoT97]

Sharks win

 

[SJVP408]

Sharks PP is so cold now. It's like a reverse of last season.

 

[rares]

Wow... Galiardi scored a goal in the NHL. Unpossible.

 

[rares]

And, yep, Murray's numbers truly indicative of how horrible he continues to be:

 

[Likewall32]

And, yep, Murray's numbers truly indicative of how horrible he continues to be:

I dont want to hear anything negative bout this teams D, because that and (barfs) Niemi have been picture fuckin perfect this season... Theyve gotta be the top or right up in there in goals allowed.. If the O had any, and I mean ANNNNNYYYYY ability to score, SJ SHOULD be up there breaking records with Chicago.... When a team consistanty gives up only 0,1 & 2 goals (I think theyve given up 3 or more, MAYBE 3 times??) then that is as perfect as you can get and no one should be bitchng about it, cause the D hasnt cost them a single game this season, no matter how much I bag on Burns or people bag on Murray (well maybe the Clbs game).

Its funny , that Murray being 1 of maybe 3 players on the team that actaully givens a damn & tried is the one everyone is baggin on... He's a stay at home, non puck moving Dman, of corse theres gonna be more shots when hes on the ice... He's a -4, and dont quote me on it, but Im sure majority of his minutes are logged when the craptsic bottom 6 is on the ice... In comparison, Burns in a -5 in only 6 games... Boyle -4

But like I said, defencemen should be the last thing anyone is complaining about in posts..

 

[RaiderZar]

I dont want to hear anything negative bout this teams D, because that and (barfs) Niemi have been picture fuckin perfect this season... Theyve gotta be the top or right up in there in goals allowed.. If the O had any, and I mean ANNNNNYYYYY ability to score, SJ SHOULD be up there breaking records with Chicago.... When a team consistanty gives up only 0,1 & 2 goals (I think theyve given up 3 or more, MAYBE 3 times??) then that is as perfect as you can get and no one should be bitchng about it, cause the D hasnt cost them a single game this season, no matter how much I bag on Burns or people bag on Murray (well maybe the Clbs game).

Its funny , that Murray being 1 of maybe 3 players on the team that actaully givens a damn & tried is the one everyone is baggin on... He's a stay at home, non puck moving Dman, of corse theres gonna be more shots when hes on the ice... He's a -4, and dont quote me on it, but Im sure majority of his minutes are logged when the craptsic bottom 6 is on the ice... In comparison, Burns in a -5 in only 6 games... Boyle -4

But like I said, defencemen should be the last thing anyone is complaining about in posts..

^^^^^^^^ +1000 ^^^^^^^

 

[Slimpikins]

I dont want to hear anything negative bout this teams D, because that and (barfs) Niemi have been picture fuckin perfect this season... Theyve gotta be the top or right up in there in goals allowed.. If the O had any, and I mean ANNNNNYYYYY ability to score, SJ SHOULD be up there breaking records with Chicago.... When a team consistanty gives up only 0,1 & 2 goals (I think theyve given up 3 or more, MAYBE 3 times??) then that is as perfect as you can get and no one should be bitchng about it, cause the D hasnt cost them a single game this season, no matter how much I bag on Burns or people bag on Murray (well maybe the Clbs game).

Its funny , that Murray being 1 of maybe 3 players on the team that actaully givens a damn & tried is the one everyone is baggin on... He's a stay at home, non puck moving Dman, of corse theres gonna be more shots when hes on the ice... He's a -4, and dont quote me on it, but Im sure majority of his minutes are logged when the craptsic bottom 6 is on the ice... In comparison, Burns in a -5 in only 6 games... Boyle -4

But like I said, defencemen should be the last thing anyone is complaining about in posts..

Well this is odd, I agree with Likewall.

 

[sjrules99]

went to the game last night and it was quite interesting.

1. after his initial turnover which led directly to col's first goal, sheppard was a beast. Used his size really well to shield off dman behind the net. Bodes well for sure.

2. The sharks got 40+ shots, which is awesome, but I think they set the record for most consecutive passes without a shot, particulary on the PP. yes, varlamov made some awesome stops, but how many of the sharks shots were rebounds? How many had effective screens? They are looking for the pretty tap in goal, and it's just not coming. The big names, as always, have got to get dirtier. Get the shot through to the net and crash. Keeping it simple will make a big difference to get the PP on the board.

3. yargh on turovers. Both goals against they had clear possession and overpassed in the D zone. They might as well have scored on themselves. The cuteness disease seems to infect at both ends.

4. Overall, a solid game, but the big problems havent changed. yes, they got a goal from the bottom 6, but they were still a -1 overall. They got 13 shots on the PP, but still cant score. Still just 2 goals or less (now 8 straight games with 2 or less and 12 out of the last 13). And it helps to play the the 14th place team. Lots of work left...

 

[rares]

Its funny , that Murray being 1 of maybe 3 players on the team that actaully givens a damn & tried is the one everyone is baggin on... He's a stay at home, non puck moving Dman, of corse theres gonna be more shots when hes on the ice... He's a -4, and dont quote me on it, but Im sure majority of his minutes are logged when the craptsic bottom 6 is on the ice... In comparison, Burns in a -5 in only 6 games... Boyle -4

I love Murray as a dude but just don't like his game much.

The reason there's a lot of shots against and he blocks so damn many of them is because he can never get the fucking puck out of his zone. So the other team just keeps cycling or passing and taking tons of shots and getting tons of chances.

No, I don't expect him to be fast or anything close to a puck moving defenseman but I do expect him to know how to get the puck out of his zone (and not just icing it), which he seems to have a huge problem doing this season.

Spend some time watching some of his shifts and you'll see how much he struggles out there.

 

[SJVP408]

went to the game last night and it was quite interesting.

1. after his initial turnover which led directly to col's first goal, sheppard was a beast. Used his size really well to shield off dman behind the net. Bodes well for sure.

2. The sharks got 40+ shots, which is awesome, but I think they set the record for most consecutive passes without a shot, particulary on the PP. yes, varlamov made some awesome stops, but how many of the sharks shots were rebounds? How many had effective screens? They are looking for the pretty tap in goal, and it's just not coming. The big names, as always, have got to get dirtier. Get the shot through to the net and crash. Keeping it simple will make a big difference to get the PP on the board.

3. yargh on turovers. Both goals against they had clear possession and overpassed in the D zone. They might as well have scored on themselves. The cuteness disease seems to infect at both ends.

4. Overall, a solid game, but the big problems havent changed. yes, they got a goal from the bottom 6, but they were still a -1 overall. They got 13 shots on the PP, but still cant score. Still just 2 goals or less (now 8 straight games with 2 or less and 12 out of the last 13). And it helps to play the the 14th place team. Lots of work left...

Yes. Sheppard is bigger than I thought he was. A fine pickup by DWil. He does use his size well and I can actually see why he was 1st round pedigree. I'd add him to the list of keepers for the mini-rebuild.

 

[Cmon_WTF]

went to the game last night and it was quite interesting.

1. after his initial turnover which led directly to col's first goal, sheppard was a beast. Used his size really well to shield off dman behind the net. Bodes well for sure.

2. The sharks got 40+ shots, which is awesome, but I think they set the record for most consecutive passes without a shot, particulary on the PP. yes, varlamov made some awesome stops, but how many of the sharks shots were rebounds? How many had effective screens? They are looking for the pretty tap in goal, and it's just not coming. The big names, as always, have got to get dirtier. Get the shot through to the net and crash. Keeping it simple will make a big difference to get the PP on the board.

3. yargh on turovers. Both goals against they had clear possession and overpassed in the D zone. They might as well have scored on themselves. The cuteness disease seems to infect at both ends.

4. Overall, a solid game, but the big problems havent changed. yes, they got a goal from the bottom 6, but they were still a -1 overall. They got 13 shots on the PP, but still cant score. Still just 2 goals or less (now 8 straight games with 2 or less and 12 out of the last 13). And it helps to play the the 14th place team. Lots of work left...

How do you figure the bottom six as a -1? They scored a goal and were on the ice for a goal. Or are you wasting time and nit picking by totaling up the +/- for every player in the bottom six?

I completely agree with Likewall on the defensemen. Defense (team defense) and goaltending is the least of the Sharks issues. If they had a competent offensive scheme in place and a coach who could actually get and teach the forwards to carry it out they would be competing with Chicago.

The defense has been outstanding in general but I don't think many people are going to agree about Murray. His lack of speed forces him to give up the blueline too easily and is the reason he gets beat off the boards to the front of the net so much. His inability to either skate or pass the puck almost always results in a center ice change of possession instead of transition offence. It also allows other teams to focus in on his defence partner and stiffle any breakout attempt as well as force turnovers.

This win was a nice effort but nothing I'm going to get too excited about. The Avs were missing their best forward (Duchense) and their best dman (Johnson) as well as not having their best defensive forward (O'Rielly). They iced three legitmate NHL calibre forwards in Landskog, Stastny, and Parenteau, and one NHL dman in Hejda and it still took a shootout to win.

 

[MacJ88]

The reason why the Sharks won last night: secondary scoring. The reason why they almost lost last night: bonehead turnovers. Either way, if the line of Galiardi, Burish, and Sheppard can build some chemistry, the Sharks will be a much better team. In order to win consistently we all know that you MUST have secondary scoring! Another note, Gomez plays much better when he's in the top 6, he's completely wasted on the 3rd and 4th lines. When Clowe comes back, he should be relegated to a bottom 6 role. Gomez has an extra pep in his step when he's in the top 6 and he creates many more scoring chances than Clowe at this point.

 

[Likewall32]

This win was a nice effort but nothing I'm going to get too excited about. The Avs were missing their best forward (Duchense) and their best dman (Johnson) as well as not having their best defensive forward (O'Rielly). They iced three legitmate NHL calibre forwards in Landskog, Stastny, and Parenteau, and one NHL dman in Hejda and it still took a shootout to win.

LMAO, thats TERRIBLE

 

[Cmon_WTF]

LMAO, thats TERRIBLE

Indeed, but it is what it is. I hate to be a Debbie Downer about the win but until they put forth consistant competitive efforts against the better teams I'm not going to be overly optimistic that things are changing for the better.

 

[Likewall32]

Indeed, but it is what it is. I hate to be a Debbie Downer about the win but until they put forth consistant competitive efforts against the better teams I'm not going to be overly optimistic that things are changing for the better.

I didnt get to see the game, so I had no idea Colorado had all its main guys out... No way id be optimistic knowing that, if fact, its down right pathetic knowing the roster Col was playin with haha

 

[23sharks]

Indeed, but it is what it is. I hate to be a Debbie Downer about the win but until they put forth consistant competitive efforts against the better teams I'm not going to be overly optimistic that things are changing for the better.

Same here. Going to the game tonight, and hoping they get the offense going.
I totally agree with Likewall on all this too....the defense and Niemi have been outstanding. With even an average offensive output, they'd be one of the top teams in the league.