Game of Thrones

[Mofo]

So all the other leaders back Bran Stark and then his own sister says no? Right...

Closes out the whole Kingdom-of-the-North-won't-bend-the-knee plotline. Sloppy, but does the trick.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

I thought about Lost as well in regards to this and it's funny the amount of disbelief one had to suspend for Lost to make any kind of sense much less worry about why the Polar Bear was there.

Some of the miniutae would be boring tv to explain

A hilarious video of all the unanswered questions from LOST.






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[batchaps4me]

Closes out the whole Kingdom-of-the-North-won't-bend-the-knee plotline. Sloppy, but does the trick.

It also provides Jon with the get out of the Black free card and removes him from/to any threat from the 6 kingdoms.

 

[Mebert]

I saw a pretty good explanation from someone about this in a discussion elsewhere. The Iron Islands didn't declare independence because they likely can't survive independently. The wars over the course of the show basically wrecked the Iron Fleet and of course Euron fucked a lot of shit up too. Basically, its more financially viable for them to stay in the Kingdom and get the benefits and resources than it is to try to make a go of it alone.

As for Dorne? Eh. Who really cares. It's Dorne. The show never did anything with them and all we even know is they have a nameless Prince as leader. Would we really want time spent talking about Dornish independence from people we never really spent much time with at all? If there had to be a reason I guess you could maybe claim that since the Lannisters basically died out (with the exception of Tyrion) as well as there being no more Targs, Dorne no longer had such a big beef anymore so they were willing to give this new order a shot.

Based on show timelines it is now known that you can rebuild an entire fleet in about 3 weeks. You don't even need a ready source of lumber to do it!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

LOST painted itself into a corner by blatantly lying to its viewers. "No, it's not Purgatory!" they told fans early on. Several style-but-no-substance episodes later, in the finale, the big reveal is yeah, it's been Purgatory all along. About the only worse way to treat your fans is the St. Elsewhere / Life on Mars ending, where the show admits that everything you just saw was a fake plot line in the mind of an autistic / computer.

We're they supposed to admit the ending?

And obviously it wasnt purgatory the whole time.

I was under the impression a lot of people thought it could be purgatory from the word go

 

[R.J. MacReady]

LOST painted itself into a corner by blatantly lying to its viewers. "No, it's not Purgatory!" they told fans early on. Several style-but-no-substance episodes later, in the finale, the big reveal is yeah, it's been Purgatory all along. About the only worse way to treat your fans is the St. Elsewhere / Life on Mars ending, where the show admits that everything you just saw was a fake plot line in the mind of an autistic / computer.

How made can you get when a fictitious story played by actors didn't really happen.



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[Stakesarehigh]

Wait do you guys actually think the Island didnt happen?

 

[anotheridiot]

There's no doubt to me that Jon turned himself in.

This is where it sticks for me. How do they get rid of rulers back then other than killing the current ruler. Jon had the right to that throne and took the persons life who stole it, like Dany killed Cersei. The only thing that may have made the meeting in the shade worse was them bringing Jon out and all of them denying they knew about his right to the throne, including the Broken king. I really did not know why half of them were out there

 

[Mofo]

It also provides Jon with the get out of the Black free card and removes him from/to any threat from the 6 kingdoms.

Maybe that's saved for the GoT sequel that may or may not get made.

We're they supposed to admit the ending?

It's supposed to be plausible, even if it's fantastic.

And obviously it wasnt purgatory the whole time.

I was under the impression a lot of people thought it could be purgatory from the word go

From the moment the plane crashed, it was. That's the entire show. The producers lied, though arguably they had to, otherwise no one would've watched.

How made can you get when a fictitious story played by actors didn't really happen.



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Well, it's all fiction. But the message it sends is, none of this matters- the characters, interactions, dialogue and everything else weren't real, even in a fictitious sense. If the character of Arya, for example, was revealed to be a cyborg or a ghost, at least she still participated in the story. St. Elsewhere and Life on Mars instead cheapen your experience to that of someone else's dream.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Mofo you are dead wrong on Lost man. The shows creator even said as much lol.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I'm not gonna sit in a game of thrones thread and spoil lost so I will just copy this here

You might be totally wrong about the way 'Lost' ended

 

[Payton]

Maybe that's saved for the GoT sequel that may or may not get made.


It's supposed to be plausible, even if it's fantastic.

From the moment the plane crashed, it was. That's the entire show. The producers lied, though arguably they had to, otherwise no one would've watched.



Well, it's all fiction. But the message it sends is, none of this matters- the characters, interactions, dialogue and everything else weren't real, even in a fictitious sense. If the character of Arya, for example, was revealed to be a cyborg or a ghost, at least she still participated in the story. St. Elsewhere and Life on Mars instead cheapen your experience to that of someone else's dream.

Or an Angel of God? (AKA Starbuck)

 

[rsw626]

I think he's going to true north to be free and live with free folk.


Don't think anyone will much care be abandoned the NW

Is the Nights Watch even a thing now? And if so, why?

1) The wall is broken
2) The NK and WW are gone
3) They are at peace with the wildlings
4) The North is independent now, so who is "funding" the NW, and is the North still going to execute deserters etc?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

It seemed abundantly clear Jon wasn't staying at the wall

 

[rsw626]

Sure, but Dorne especially would not stick around. It took the 7 kingdoms 100 years longer to get Dorne to submit. They sat out basically all of these wars, so they had full strength military at that point, and they hate the Lanisters most of all and they watched one be made Hand of the king again.

It took 3 dragons to get them to submit in the first place, noway the depleted kingdom with 0 of them can do it.

And even then it was only through marriage not conquest.

 

[PnkPanther]

Is the Nights Watch even a thing now? And if so, why?

1) The wall is broken
2) The NK and WW are gone
3) They are at peace with the wildlings
4) The North is independent now, so who is "funding" the NW, and is the North still going to execute deserters etc?

It apparently is, but no idea why

 

[Money]

4) The North is independent now, so who is "funding" the NW,

Mexico

 

[Sparhawk]

Closing scene should have been Jon walking with Tormund.

Jon : I didn't think the free folk would want to head back to these lands...
Tormund : You know nothing, Jon Snow.

Fade to black as Tormund smiles and Jon stares at him and grins

 

[Orlando Eagles]

He was Grey Worm's prisoner. One little swing, done deal.

Except there was an army outside the gates ready to engage them. They were a formidable force, but without a leader. Best case for GW his people have strong losses. For what?

GW was being a solid leader there. He really didn’t have much say in what went on there, except to bring Tyrion out.

 

[Orlando Eagles]

The ones that got leaked before episode 4 regarding episodes 4,5 and 6 were dead on accurate.

Yes, yes they were. In hindsight I don’t mind that I read these spoilers. It prepped me much for what was coming and helped me enjoy the last episode more than most did.