Game of Thrones

[CreepCreep2014]

My take...LF kills Bran, which allows The Wall to fall. Sansa sees this and kills LF with the knife Arya gave her....I'm starting to think that Arya gave it to her to let her know to "watch your back....you might need this". After all LF did to Sansa, she has to be one to take him out...

 

[Innermind]

Whoopsie.... one of the P.A.'s should have seen the pickup truck, and then have it moved.

 

[Taddy Mason]

Whoopsie.... one of the P.A.'s should have seen the pickup truck, and then have it moved.

wasn't in the episode. it was from a behind the scenes segment

 

[ill]

Did you read somewhere that GRRM's end for Ramsay is different?

it's likely to be different since he isn't actually married to a Stark in the books. The books don't have Ramsey as such a big villain as they did in the show. I don't know what POV character would be there to watch him die in the books. Will we even have a battle of the bastards?

 

[ill]

.......why make that assumption?

I guess I am being somewhat influenced by other zombie stereotypes.

 

[Sparhawk]

Whoopsie.... one of the P.A.'s should have seen the pickup truck, and then have it moved.

41 posts late....

 

[ill]

I have a feeling the Sansa-Littlefinger-Arya plot-line has run its course and will be shut down pronto...perhaps even in the upcoming season finale this week.

and I feel that is how they handled the Tyrell/High Sparrow storyline. They got it to a point where it was just too confusing and too deep, and they decided, fuck it, just blow them all up and we don't have to think about it anymore. This is the shit that is bothering me.

 

[Superbelt]

Bran is one of the inner-circle characters in the books. I think he makes it the whole way to the end. He isn't dying in the season finale.

Bran's whole reason for existence as the Three Eyed Raven is to protect the realm of men from the Night King.

Littlefinger trying to drive wedges and weaken the northern alliances is the primary threat to a proper defense against the Night King, and it really is his duty to expose him.

 

[Sparhawk]

and I feel that is how they handled the Tyrell/High Sparrow storyline. They got it to a point where it was just too confusing and too deep, and they decided, fuck it, just blow them all up and we don't have to think about it anymore. This is the shit that is bothering me.

They kept hinting at all that wildfire being hidden, so I thought it made perfect sense.
Cersei is a major character with her own prophecy.
She's impulsive and willing to do anything to protect her own.
It was exactly the sort of thing she would do, but she didn't consider how it would affect Tommen.

Even more bad news for Cersei is that Jon Snow is the offspring of the man she was supposed to marry (Rhaegar Targaryean) and the woman that Robert Baratheon loved (Lyanna Stark).

 

[Superbelt]

Yup, that's entirely Cersei. The only tool in her box is a hammer.

 

[chf]

They kept hinting at all that wildfire being hidden, so I thought it made perfect sense.
Cersei is a major character with her own prophecy.
She's impulsive and willing to do anything to protect her own.
It was exactly the sort of thing she would do, but she didn't consider how it would affect Tommen.

Even more bad news for Cersei is that Jon Snow is the offspring of the man she was supposed to marry (Rhaegar Targaryean) and the woman that Robert Baratheon loved (Lyanna Stark).

We'll have to see how it plays out in the book of course, but it dovetails nicely with the history of Jaime as well. He's already murdered one High King for planning to blow up KL with wildfire. And with Jaime being technically another younger brother... well...

 

[Sparhawk]

We'll have to see how it plays out in the book of course, but it dovetails nicely with the history of Jaime as well. He's already murdered one High King for planning to blow up KL with wildfire. And with Jaime being technically another younger brother... well...

Yeah, this was discussed previously that the valonqar looks set up to be Tyrion (as Cersei believes), but most likely is Jaime (born right after Cersei).

Another wild card is that Arya could murder Cersei with either one of their faces, but that doesn't seem likely right now. Though, if Cersei really thinks about the prophecy, she could have them both murdered...... naaaahhhhhh.

 

[Payton]

I think the scene where Arya sees him paying off one of the maids or what not would lend credence to the idea he has spies up there.

I assumed that after seeing that, the maid was probably offed, and Arya stole her face.

 

[ill]

Yeah, this was discussed previously that the valonqar looks set up to be Tyrion (as Cersei believes), but most likely is Jaime (born right after Cersei).

Another wild card is that Arya could murder Cersei with either one of their faces, but that doesn't seem likely right now. Though, if Cersei really thinks about the prophecy, she could have them both murdered...... naaaahhhhhh.

would Cersei dying in childbirth essentially Jaime killing her?

 

[DarthVedder]

and I feel that is how they handled the Tyrell/High Sparrow storyline. They got it to a point where it was just too confusing and too deep, and they decided, fuck it, just blow them all up and we don't have to think about it anymore. This is the shit that is bothering me.

It was an abrupt ending, but it was very well executed (one of my favorite segments in the whole series), and very consistent with Cercei's character, building her up into the big villain she is now.

 

[Sparhawk]

would Cersei dying in childbirth essentially Jaime killing her?

Nice one. Definitely outside the box thinking.

As you've mentioned before, we would need some Episode 6 physics-defying timelines to have her give birth in the season finale.....

 

[ill]

Nice one. Definitely outside the box thinking.

As you've mentioned before, we would need some Episode 6 physics-defying timelines to have her give birth in the season finale.....

thing is, kid would have to die too since the prophecy says she only bears 3 children with golden crowns.

I don't think the theory that Gentry is Cersei's can work. Someone would have known she was pregnant.

 

[Sparhawk]

thing is, kid would have to die too since the prophecy says she only bears 3 children with golden crowns.

I don't think the theory that Gentry is Cersei's can work. Someone would have known she was pregnant.

What if Jon's true parentage is revealed and he is declared King?

Her children only wear a golden crown if she is Queen.
If she's not the Queen, then all her future children would not by royalty and the prophecy would hold true.

 

[DarthVedder]

More the "I'm willing to suspend disbelief for X, but Y (which is usually less of a stretch than X) is ridiculous!" than the "Fantasy can't have logic" argument.

Every good piece of fiction has to establish a universe with its rules, and then obey those rules. This universe has magic, but in it magic has always had a cost and it's not just someone casting a spell and things appearing out of thin air. I know it's just a small detail, but it was a very obvious mistake and it was so easy to get right, if they had just used ropes instead of chains.

 

[ill]

What if Jon's true parentage is revealed and he is declared King?

Her children only wear a golden crown if she is Queen.
If she's not the Queen, then all her future children would not by royalty and the prophecy would hold true.

I thought "golden crown" meant they were blonde.