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[puckhead]

I will watch hockey this year, but probably won't get too wrapped up any team. At least not until Howson is killed and sold for parts. .

 

[forty_three]

Who knows? You and Jeff may be rooting for the same team by the end of the year... whoever that may be.

LOL

We know it won't be the Rangers.

 

[MadCaptain]

I'm sorry for your pain. Not only do you lose Nash but now all your TV broadcasts will have half the screen covered by Dubinsky's nose.

Its kinda like the Chico trade for NJ. We've had to endure 30 years of him because of it.

 

[kenyg54]

I guess I am not a hockey fan anymore.

So fucking tired of retarded management ruining my enjoyment.

I hope the PA and League can't agree on shit and the league just fucking folds.


At least I saved a shit load of money on season tickets and they wanted my son to try out for the Junior Jackets. I will have NOTHING related to that team until that mother fucker gets gonorrhea and dies in a fiery car crash while getting mauled by lions.

You shouldn't wish that on your son.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

ya i'm not saying the flyers haven't gotten better.. just making the point that the turnover in the NHL is ridiculous.. having a guy like Nash that had been on the team for close to 10 years is an abnormality these days unless youve signed a new contract in the past 3 years



he's also going to play in new york where the think about playing offense once or twice a year.. i honestly dont expect nash's numbers to improve at all.. i could see them going down actually.. playing with a better cast i agree, but if the rangers play the same style they did last year (5 goalies positioned throughout the d-zone, and 1 real fast guy ready for a breakaway), nash isn't going to get the opportunity to shine

i guess i have a pretty rare opinion here, but i actually think the rangers got worse with this trade.. the BJs might not have gotten better either, but i definitely dont think the rangers got better

There's no question the Rangers got better. The Rangers won't have their full team until November when Gaborik comes back. Until then Nash is going to be their go to goal scorer. I expect a big year from Nash. He's one of the best power forwards in the game. You know I can't stand the Rangers so for me to say good things about their team is tough.

 

[awaz]

There's no question the Rangers got better. The Rangers won't have their full team until November when Gaborik comes back. Until then Nash is going to be their go to goal scorer. I expect a big year from Nash. He's one of the best power forwards in the game. You know I can't stand the Rangers so for me to say good things about their team is tough.

ya i know its hard, i just really dont see it. i just dont see nash making a big difference at the expense of their defensive minded depth.. plus when was the last time a 3 superstar line worked out well? spezza, heatley and alfredsson? i guess last year's perry/getz/ryan line was solid too

i guess we'll see what happens

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

ya i know its hard, i just really dont see it. i just dont see nash making a big difference at the expense of their defensive minded depth.. plus when was the last time a 3 superstar line worked out well? spezza, heatley and alfredsson? i guess last year's perry/getz/ryan line was solid too

i guess we'll see what happens

One thing to keep in mind is the Rangers have plenty of players to take the spots of Dubinsky & Anisimov. Kreider & Stepan immediately come to mind. The Rangers have plenty of depth. I don't think the trade hurt them much if at all.

 

[awaz]

One thing to keep in mind is the Rangers have plenty of players to take the spots of Dubinsky & Anisimov. Kreider & Stepan immediately come to mind. The Rangers have plenty of depth. I don't think the trade hurt them much if at all.

we'll see DBI, if i'm wrong i'll eat crow.. but i dont see the rangers being dominant. i'll be surprised if they win the east, regular season or post season.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

we'll see DBI, if i'm wrong i'll eat crow.. but i dont see the rangers being dominant. i'll be surprised if they win the east, regular season or post season.

The won the East in the regular season last year. I never said they would be dominant. I do think they'll be better than Philly though. Mainly because of their goaltending.

 

[DevilishWon]

I'm sorry for your pain. Not only do you lose Nash but now all your TV broadcasts will have half the screen covered by Dubinsky's nose.

Its kinda like the Chico trade for NJ. We've had to endure 30 years of him because of it.

Chico's the best!

 

[DevilishWon]

One thing to keep in mind is the Rangers have plenty of players to take the spots of Dubinsky & Anisimov. Kreider & Stepan immediately come to mind. The Rangers have plenty of depth. I don't think the trade hurt them much if at all.

Due to the power of Howson's thundering stupidity the rag$ gave up shit for what they got

 

[Vadered]

we'll see DBI, if i'm wrong i'll eat crow.. but i dont see the rangers being dominant. i'll be surprised if they win the east, regular season or post season.

Brandon Prust, John Mitchell, Artem Anisimov, John Scott, Ruslan Fedotenko and Brandon Dubinsky are gone, replaced by Aaron Asham, Jeff Halpern, Taylor Pyatt, Micheal Haley, and Rick Nash.

They lost role players and got roleplayers and Nash back. As long as they gel well and assuming Henrik doesn't have a long-overdue bad season, I don't see them having any troubles in an Atlantic division where Jersey, Philly, and Pittsburgh all got worse or held steady. Actually, I suppose Pitt got better just because it got Crosby back *mutters darkly to self* but their D is still reaaaaaaaaaally suspect.

 

[mattola]

Brandon Prust, John Mitchell, Artem Anisimov, John Scott, Ruslan Fedotenko and Brandon Dubinsky are gone, replaced by Aaron Asham, Jeff Halpern, Taylor Pyatt, Micheal Haley, and Rick Nash.

They lost role players and got roleplayers and Nash back. As long as they gel well and assuming Henrik doesn't have a long-overdue bad season, I don't see them having any troubles in an Atlantic division where Jersey, Philly, and Pittsburgh all got worse or held steady. Actually, I suppose Pitt got better just because it got Crosby back *mutters darkly to self* but their D is still reaaaaaaaaaally suspect.

agreed I see them finish 4th or 5th as pitts or philly will be 1 in East with boston 2nd and Carolina or Washington 3rd.

they will go out in the first round

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Brandon Prust, John Mitchell, Artem Anisimov, John Scott, Ruslan Fedotenko and Brandon Dubinsky are gone, replaced by Aaron Asham, Jeff Halpern, Taylor Pyatt, Micheal Haley, and Rick Nash.

They lost role players and got roleplayers and Nash back. As long as they gel well and assuming Henrik doesn't have a long-overdue bad season, I don't see them having any troubles in an Atlantic division where Jersey, Philly, and Pittsburgh all got worse or held steady. Actually, I suppose Pitt got better just because it got Crosby back *mutters darkly to self* but their D is still reaaaaaaaaaally suspect.

Kreider only played during the playoffs. Torts dumbed down the playbook for him so to speak. He's going to light the lamp plenty. If Sauer recovers from his concussion their defense will be better.

The Penguins will hopefully get a full season of Crosby which will help, but their D leaves a lot to be desired & Fleury will need to bounce back from a horrible playoff performance.

The Flyers lost Pronger & Carle. They traded JVR for Luke Schenn. Sorry, but the D still needs help & Bryzgalov is as inconsistant as it gets in goal.

The Rangers got better this offseason & as did Carolina in a big way. The road to the finals got tougher for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

 

[Vadered]

Brandon Prust, John Mitchell, Artem Anisimov, John Scott, Ruslan Fedotenko and Brandon Dubinsky are gone, replaced by Aaron Asham, Jeff Halpern, Taylor Pyatt, Micheal Haley, and Rick Nash.

They lost role players and got roleplayers and Nash back. As long as they gel well and assuming Henrik doesn't have a long-overdue bad season, I don't see them having any troubles in an Atlantic division where Jersey, Philly, and Pittsburgh all got worse or held steady. Actually, I suppose Pitt got better just because it got Crosby back *mutters darkly to self* but their D is still reaaaaaaaaaally suspect.

What part of this post reads like I don't think New York will do well? They won the conference last year and while they didn't get AMAZINGLY better this offseason, they did improve in a division where two or three or four teams got worse.

The only way New York stumbles this season is if Lundqvist finally has a bad season/gets hurt, or if the locker room is tossed around too much by all the change. Talent wise they are all set.

 

[awaz]

Kreider only played during the playoffs. Torts dumbed down the playbook for him so to speak. He's going to light the lamp plenty. If Sauer recovers from his concussion their defense will be better.

The Penguins will hopefully get a full season of Crosby which will help, but their D leaves a lot to be desired & Fleury will need to bounce back from a horrible playoff performance.

The Flyers lost Pronger & Carle. They traded JVR for Luke Schenn. Sorry, but the D still needs help & Bryzgalov is as inconsistant as it gets in goal.

The Rangers got better this offseason & as did Carolina in a big way. The road to the finals got tougher for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

they hardly lost pronger. he played what, 17 games last season? and tell me where the flyers big weakness is on D.. is it the coburn/grossmann pair that easily shut down malkin in a high scoring playoff series? is it a meszaros/timonen pair who have won the barry ashbee trophy as the flyers best dman in each of the past two seasons? the 3rd pair with schenn and bourdon might leave a little to be desired, but only a little bit, its hardly horrible.. and the flyers top 4 can stack up with most teams IMO.. goaltending i have no argument. bryz is a nutcase.

and what playbook is there for the rangers to dumb down? stand in front of hank, block shots, pass to fast guy, hope he scores. there's really not a whole lot else to it. it works, i'm not arguing that, they slaughtered the flyers this year, but its not a complex system that they had to dumb down

pens get crosby's production back, but will lose some from malkin, because he always gets worse when crosby is playing.. plus they lose staal.. and if you wanna talk about a suspect defense, the pens defense is suspect. if letang continues to improve defensively, he can play defense.. orpik can hit, but not much else, niskanen is alright, pens fans were trying to pack paul martin's bags all summer and that's just your 4th dman

carolina got way better. agreed. IMO carolina, dallas, and minnesota are really the only 3 teams in the league that got noticably better.. we'll see what happens with the rangers, i really dont see nash flourishing with the rangers and their loss of depth is going to hurt, IMO

gaborik.richards.nash
kreider.stepan.hagelin
asham.boyle.pyatt
haley.halpern.******

that is not a powerful lineup to me, and defensively its a joke compared to what they had going last year.. its 1 great line, 1 with the potential to be very good, and 2 that provide a little grit and not much else

 

[awaz]

What part of this post reads like I don't think New York will do well? They won the conference last year and while they didn't get AMAZINGLY better this offseason, they did improve in a division where two or three or four teams got worse.

The only way New York stumbles this season is if Lundqvist finally has a bad season/gets hurt, or if the locker room is tossed around too much by all the change. Talent wise they are all set.

i think he's lumping us together :p

 

[RangersReds03]

gaborik.richards.nash
kreider.stepan.hagelin
asham.boyle.pyatt
haley.halpern.******

Uhh Callahan?

 

[KennyBanyeah]

THe one thing I can say about the BJs this year is that their forward depth will be stellar. The top end may not be contender calibre but they have a bunch of guys who have top 6 potential.

Prospal
Johansen
Brassard
Atkinson
Foligno
Anisimov
Dubinsky
Umberger


Outside of Prospal those are solid assets who are young. They have no ELITE guys but they can fill about 8 forward positions with guys who have some skill.

If you ask me the BJs will be significantly better than last year.

They might still finish last or second last but I think they'll be harder to play against and a better team this year.

 

[forty_three]

THe one thing I can say about the BJs this year is that their forward depth will be stellar. The top end may not be contender calibre but they have a bunch of guys who have top 6 potential.

Prospal
Johansen
Brassard
Atkinson
Foligno
Anisimov
Dubinsky
Umberger


Outside of Prospal those are solid assets who are young. They have no ELITE guys but they can fill about 8 forward positions with guys who have some skill.

If you ask me the BJs will be significantly better than last year.

They might still finish last or second last but I think they'll be harder to play against and a better team this year.

Defensively, they will be considerably tougher and as long as Bob stops more than 90%, it's gonna be just fine on the GAA side.

It just sucks going into an All Star Game without that big punch guy. And no way to get one without giving up some of those young guys.

Part of me is anxiously hoping that Atkinson - Johansen - Foligno comes together. Those three play the game the way I want to see it played.