Fascinating Stats for Agholor

[Iggloo]

I see Huff as a slot guy. Part time player. If Chip thinks he can be an outside starter he is on crack.

 

[deerpathdave]

I see Huff as a slot guy. Part time player. If Chip thinks he can be an outside starter he is on crack.

Then you need to give Kelly the crack. Its been widely reported that the coaching staff views Huff's upside as being more than even Matthews.

 

[Rey]

Then you need to give Kelly the crack. Its been widely reported that the coaching staff views Huff's upside as being more than even Matthews.

I've heard the same hype up stuff for Marcus Smith ... it's just words until I see it done on the field. Huff had 8 catches and 4 drops last year ... at 5'11" 4.5+ 40 time, plus didn't run many pro routes in college? Look, I hope he becomes the next Hines Ward, but I'm not letting Josh Huff determine what I do in the draft at WR if I'm Chip regardless of how much I like the kid.

 

[deerpathdave]

For me it comes down to having zero confidence in Thurmond or Carroll or Watkins lining up at corner.

I think they could make it work with that receiving corps and we may all be pleasantly surprised in what we get out of the current guys. I could see Ertz being a pro bowler. I could see Sproles catching 80 passes. I could see Matthews matching Maclin's production. I could see Huff becoming a legit receiver. And its not like all that has to happen for the Eagles to have a successful offense. They should have the best running game in the league.

Any draft plan that doesn't result in a starting quality Corner I think is flawed, and the only way I see to ensure that is to draft one in the first.

Additionally, I would prioritize getting another quality guard over receiver as well. Barbre may be fine at RG, but they have serious depth issues there. The only reason I don't advocate drafting a guard in the second round is I think they can get good guys in the third.

If you can get a first round talent receiver in the 2nd round, I think you jump on it even if your need at Guard is more critical.

While I would love to draft a top Safety, I do think this position has a good chance of being filled from within. There are four pretty good guys that could step up to fill that role.

1. So I am going Corner in the first ...Even if its a bit of a reach.
2. I am going BPA at WR, Corner, Safety or OL in the 2nd, and projecting that player will be a WR.
3. I am going OL in the third...assuming I didn't draft one in the third.

All three of these guys should end up playing alot.

After that, I am looking for guys to compete and develop at OL, OLB, Safety and WR. The way this team is currrently staffed I think I can mostly ignore TE, RB, DL and ILB.

 

[Iggloo]

Then you need to give Kelly the crack. Its been widely reported that the coaching staff views Huff's upside as being more than even Matthews.

Show me a link saying that.

 

[deerpathdave]

Show me a link saying that.

Eagles think Josh Huff has higher upside than Jordan Matthews - Bleeding Green Nation

 

[I miss Dawkins]

No way I want to get past this WR draft class without getting one. And I don't want to trade back to get one of the last 2. I'm tired of having great position classes, and then going after something different. This WR class is really good. If we trade up, I hope it's to get a stud WR and not MM. A great WR will go a long way towards making any QB look better. I'm not usually a fan of WR in the 1st, but I'm all over it this year. We have far too much mediocre talent at WR. Give me the best WR we can muster.

Cooper... worst starting WR in the NFL. We have been there before with Trash/Pinkston.

We need to take advantage of this WR class, and not settle for the bottom of the barrel, imho.

 

[old duke]

Byron Jones
Nelson Agholor, if avail.
Donovan Smith, if avail.
Jaquiski Tartt
My 1st 4 picks, if avail. I'm happy.

 

[Deano]

For me it comes down to having zero confidence in Thurmond or Carroll or Watkins lining up at corner.

I think they could make it work with that receiving corps and we may all be pleasantly surprised in what we get out of the current guys. I could see Ertz being a pro bowler. I could see Sproles catching 80 passes. I could see Matthews matching Maclin's production. I could see Huff becoming a legit receiver. And its not like all that has to happen for the Eagles to have a successful offense. They should have the best running game in the league.

Any draft plan that doesn't result in a starting quality Corner I think is flawed, and the only way I see to ensure that is to draft one in the first.

Additionally, I would prioritize getting another quality guard over receiver as well. Barbre may be fine at RG, but they have serious depth issues there. The only reason I don't advocate drafting a guard in the second round is I think they can get good guys in the third.

If you can get a first round talent receiver in the 2nd round, I think you jump on it even if your need at Guard is more critical.

While I would love to draft a top Safety, I do think this position has a good chance of being filled from within. There are four pretty good guys that could step up to fill that role.

1. So I am going Corner in the first ...Even if its a bit of a reach.
2. I am going BPA at WR, Corner, Safety or OL in the 2nd, and projecting that player will be a WR.
3. I am going OL in the third...assuming I didn't draft one in the third.

All three of these guys should end up playing alot.

After that, I am looking for guys to compete and develop at OL, OLB, Safety and WR. The way this team is currrently staffed I think I can mostly ignore TE, RB, DL and ILB.

i

We are real close here but I would flip the first and second rounds and basically for the same reasons.

I believe we can get by at either CB or S with a current player because we have upgrade at CB and LB. think back to the Buddy Ryan days. Our CBS were not as good as our front 7 made them look. With enough pressure, even a guy like Watkins can cover for four seconds if he is surrounded by other talent. Few teams have studs at both CB and both S positions.

On the other hand, my concerns for this offense are well documented. I think this town will go berserk if the offense struggles.

WR first, then the best CB or S, then at least one OL. This draft is loaded with really good OL but nobody talks about them. Should be good OL down into round 6.

 

[Northern Eagle]

Daniel Jeremiah has Agohlor going 16 to the Texans in his latest mock. Stock is really high on this cat right now.

 

[Northern Eagle]

I've heard the same hype up stuff for Marcus Smith ... it's just words until I see it done on the field. Huff had 8 catches and 4 drops last year ... at 5'11" 4.5+ 40 time, plus didn't run many pro routes in college? Look, I hope he becomes the next Hines Ward, but I'm not letting Josh Huff determine what I do in the draft at WR if I'm Chip regardless of how much I like the kid.

Agreed. I'm not a big advocate of him being an outside guy, always thought they brought him here to play in the slot.

One of their first 3 picks has to be a receiver.

 

[Iggloo]

I worry about Chip. First he overdrafted Huff, now he thinks the guy is a #1 receiver?

 

[deerpathdave]

i

We are real close here but I would flip the first and second rounds and basically for the same reasons.

I believe we can get by at either CB or S with a current player because we have upgrade at CB and LB. think back to the Buddy Ryan days. Our CBS were not as good as our front 7 made them look. With enough pressure, even a guy like Watkins can cover for four seconds if he is surrounded by other talent. Few teams have studs at both CB and both S positions.

On the other hand, my concerns for this offense are well documented. I think this town will go berserk if the offense struggles.

WR first, then the best CB or S, then at least one OL. This draft is loaded with really good OL but nobody talks about them. Should be good OL down into round 6.

So you have a little more faith in the current roster of defensive backs than I do. I see a couple of fourth round picks and a couple of low priced street free agents with only two spots nailed down.

at receiver I include ertz and sproles in the analysis and see 2 recent 2nd round picks who are young and have been very successful. A third round pick, a former probowler, and a savvy veteran jack of all trades with a very unique skill set and a hoi hum veteran. that is 5 players competing for a position where normally three play.

To me it's obvious which is the bigger need.

 

[skinzfan]

So you have a little more faith in the current roster of defensive backs than I do. I see a couple of fourth round picks and a couple of low priced street free agents with only two spots nailed down.

at receiver I include ertz and sproles in the analysis and see 2 recent 2nd round picks who are young and have been very successful. A third round pick, a former probowler, and a savvy veteran jack of all trades with a very unique skill set and a hoi hum veteran. that is 5 players competing for a position where normally three play.

To me it's obvious which is the bigger need.

that WR lineup is the worst in the NFC East....

 

[deerpathdave]

that WR lineup is the worst in the NFC East....[/QUOTE IT really relvant. They can compete with these wide receivers. They really can' with ony 2 defensive backs.

 

[Deano]

So you have a little more faith in the current roster of defensive backs than I do. I see a couple of fourth round picks and a couple of low priced street free agents with only two spots nailed down.

at receiver I include ertz and sproles in the analysis and see 2 recent 2nd round picks who are young and have been very successful. A third round pick, a former probowler, and a savvy veteran jack of all trades with a very unique skill set and a hoi hum veteran. that is 5 players competing for a position where normally three play.

To me it's obvious which is the bigger need.

Unfortunately all those guys are not WRs and nobody is afraid of Sproles lining up outside twice a game. Ertz, Huff, Cooper all did almost nothing last year.

Hell, I could argue that Boykins had much more impact than any of those guys last year. There's no reason to not expect a guy like Watkins to improve at least as much as Huff.

The only way I'd go CB before WR is if we take a shot at DGB in the second. That early WR pick HAS to start and has to produce.

 

[Rey]

I fully expect the Eagles to trade up from their 2nd round position to early 2nd on draft day using Boykin. Maybe even trade Kendricks straight up for another 2nd.

 

[Wings]

I fully expect the Eagles to trade up from their 2nd round position to early 2nd on draft day using Boykin. Maybe even trade Kendricks straight up for another 2nd.

Yep, I do as well. Boykin , Kendricks,Mathis and curry could all be moved for draft picks

 

[old duke]

I fully expect the Eagles to trade up from their 2nd round position to early 2nd on draft day using Boykin. Maybe even trade Kendricks straight up for another 2nd.

Yes, I agree, and I also think Mathis goes as well, for a 4th. Due to his age, and contract, we probably can't gt more than that, even though he's a pro bowler. I hope Chip gets a good replacement, as we can't go into the season with 2 rookie Guards, I don't think. I think that Marynowitz made it clear that they want to get as many picks as they can. This is a deep draft, except for QBs and TEs.

 

[old duke]

LOL. Wings and I both posted the same thing, except that I forgot to add Curry. If we don't trade up for MM, we could wind up with about 12 picks, and even use some of them to move up a few spots for a specific player. Gosh, this is going to be great!