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[ehb5]

Redskins first-round WR Josh Doctson (Achilles') is now in a walking boot.

The team insists Doctson hasn't suffered a setback, and they only put him in the boot for rest purposes. When reporters asked Doctson about the boot, Doctson said the team told him not to talk about his injury. The 22nd pick in the draft has been out since May. He appears weeks away from a return.


Everybody say it with me now.......

JAMISON CROWDER!!!!!

I doubt crowder really gets affected by Doctson either way tbh. They just don't have similar roles. I do have to say im a crowder fan from a talent point though bug im not sure he'll ever really get the targets to matter. Maybe next year.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

I doubt crowder really gets affected by Doctson either way tbh. They just don't have similar roles. I do have to say im a crowder fan from a talent point though bug im not sure he'll ever really get the targets to matter. Maybe next year.

Doesn't seem to be of much value for FF. Last year no Doctson and Jackson out he hardly worthy of being on a FF roster. Think he had 2 games that he scored double digits last year.

 

[TREFF]

Crowder is a classic "never will be". Good enough athlete to fill up an NFL roster spot, but no different than dozens and dozens of other 5th and 6th WR's on everyone else's roster. Jackson, Garcon, Reed, and Cousins who still has to prove he wasn't just a one year wonder cap Crowder at waiver fodder level. If Garcon or Jackson goes down, he's roster worthy, still not a strong consideration for starting any given week. Sure he may have a 4 for 75 and 2 scores one week, that doesn't mean you really should've started him that week.

 

[ehb5]

Crowder is a classic "never will be". Good enough athlete to fill up an NFL roster spot, but no different than dozens and dozens of other 5th and 6th WR's on everyone else's roster. Jackson, Garcon, Reed, and Cousins who still has to prove he wasn't just a one year wonder cap Crowder at waiver fodder level. If Garcon or Jackson goes down, he's roster worthy, still not a strong consideration for starting any given week. Sure he may have a 4 for 75 and 2 scores one week, that doesn't mean you really should've started him that week.

Assuming you're talking nfl 5th or 6th WR I disagree. I'd bet he's better than at least half the nfls #3 WRs. But if you're talking fantasy then yea I agree. Don't expectanything from him this year.

 

[SteelersPride]

Assuming you're talking nfl 5th or 6th WR I disagree. I'd bet he's better than at least half the nfls #3 WRs. But if you're talking fantasy then yea I agree. Don't expectanything from him this year.

half? dpubtful

 

[TREFF]

Assuming you're talking nfl 5th or 6th WR I disagree. I'd bet he's better than at least half the nfls #3 WRs. But if you're talking fantasy then yea I agree. Don't expectanything from him this year.

I was primarily speaking in terms of the NFL, he doesn't belong on a fantasy roster to begin with, not unless the league is exceptionally deep, or DJAX and/or Garcon go down

 

[ehb5]

half? dpubtful

I'd take him over

Dallas' #3
Phillys' #2 (everybody behind mathews)
New Yorks' #3
Green Bays #3
Minnesotas #3
Chicago's #3
Atlantas #3
Carolinas #2
Tampa bays #3
Seattle's #3
San Franciscos #2
St Louis' #2
New England's #3
New Yorks #3
Buffalo's #2
Cleveland #3
Baltimores #2
Pittsburghs #3
Cincinnatis #2
Houstons #3
Tennessees #3
Kansas City's #2
Denvers #3

Granted that's just my opinion but I think these are all reasonable (and that there's a few more I could argue) and that's 23 teams right there. Plus at least 8 teams he's better than their #2 imo.

 

[SteelersPride]

I'd take him over

Dallas' #3
Phillys' #2 (everybody behind mathews)
New Yorks' #3
Green Bays #3
Minnesotas #3
Chicago's #3
Atlantas #3
Carolinas #2
Tampa bays #3
Seattle's #3
San Franciscos #2
St Louis' #2
New England's #3
New Yorks #3
Buffalo's #2
Cleveland #3
Baltimores #2
Pittsburghs #3
Cincinnatis #2
Houstons #3
Tennessees #3
Kansas City's #2
Denvers #3

Granted that's just my opinion but I think these are all reasonable (and that there's a few more I could argue) and that's 23 teams right there. Plus at least 8 teams he's better than their #2 imo.

Hmm I'm gonna argue this whole heartedly when I'm home from work

 

[ehb5]

Hmm I'm gonna argue this whole heartedly when I'm home from work

I look forward to it

 

[TREFF]

I'd take him over

Dallas' #3
Phillys' #2 (everybody behind mathews)
New Yorks' #3
Green Bays #3
Minnesotas #3
Chicago's #3
Atlantas #3
Carolinas #2
Tampa bays #3
Seattle's #3
San Franciscos #2
St Louis' #2
New England's #3
New Yorks #3
Buffalo's #2
Cleveland #3
Baltimores #2
Pittsburghs #3
Cincinnatis #2
Houstons #3
Tennessees #3
Kansas City's #2
Denvers #3

Granted that's just my opinion but I think these are all reasonable (and that there's a few more I could argue) and that's 23 teams right there. Plus at least 8 teams he's better than their #2 imo.

Just to make sure we're on the same page here. ..Doctson's current status is full availability in 2 weeks from now, DJAX, Garcon and Reed are all still on the team, making Crowder the #4 WR, and at best #5 receiving potion if you completely discount Thompson and Jones. And you're saying he's a better fantasy bet then all those guys you listed, or that he's a better receiver than all those you listed? Fantasy-wise wise you can't possibly be serious, unless your also assuming some somewhat serious injuries ahead of him. Real football speaking, if you take every NFL teams #'s 3 and 4s, Todd them all on the table, there is going to be a small handful, maybe a dozen who are obviously better than the rest, there's also going to be a dozen or so who probably couldn't hold the aforementioned group's jock strap up. Crowder is in the big bunch in between them. Arguably better than alot, not obviously, undeniably better than anyone but the worst of them. Could probably be the #3 on alot of teams, but then again, so could 2 dozen other guys, and do just as well.

Just to touch on a few of the ones you mentioned, and not assuming worst case scenarios for the guy ahead of him on the depth chart
Dallas -neither he nor Cole Beasley is in the fantasy radar, unless BigD's run game flops and your in a ppr. And real football, Beasley fits Dallas system to a tee, no way Crowder could take his job.
Philly-Randle, Agholor, Crowder..all about the same in real football. But in fantasy Philly's #2 is going to see a boatload more targets than Washington's #4
GB- wouldn't take Crowder over Adams or Janis, fantasy or real, but especially in fantasy. .Rodgers #3 towers over Cousins #3 (or 4 in Crowder's case)
That's just to get started, I could continue, but don't have the time this am..looking forward to seeing what SP brings to the discussion this evening, and if I'd have anything to add to it

 

[ehb5]

Just to make sure we're on the same page here. ..Doctson's current status is full availability in 2 weeks from now, DJAX, Garcon and Reed are all still on the team, making Crowder the #4 WR, and at best #5 receiving potion if you completely discount Thompson and Jones. And you're saying he's a better fantasy bet then all those guys you listed, or that he's a better receiver than all those you listed? Fantasy-wise wise you can't possibly be serious, unless your also assuming some somewhat serious injuries ahead of him. Real football speaking, if you take every NFL teams #'s 3 and 4s, Todd them all on the table, there is going to be a small handful, maybe a dozen who are obviously better than the rest, there's also going to be a dozen or so who probably couldn't hold the aforementioned group's jock strap up. Crowder is in the big bunch in between them. Arguably better than alot, not obviously, undeniably better than anyone but the worst of them. Could probably be the #3 on alot of teams, but then again, so could 2 dozen other guys, and do just as well.

Just to touch on a few of the ones you mentioned, and not assuming worst case scenarios for the guy ahead of him on the depth chart
Dallas -neither he nor Cole Beasley is in the fantasy radar, unless BigD's run game flops and your in a ppr. And real football, Beasley fits Dallas system to a tee, no way Crowder could take his job.
Philly-Randle, Agholor, Crowder..all about the same in real football. But in fantasy Philly's #2 is going to see a boatload more targets than Washington's #4
GB- wouldn't take Crowder over Adams or Janis, fantasy or real, but especially in fantasy. .Rodgers #3 towers over Cousins #3 (or 4 in Crowder's case)
That's just to get started, I could continue, but don't have the time this am..looking forward to seeing what SP brings to the discussion this evening, and if I'd have anything to add to it

Oh no fantasy he's only own able in dynasty leagues really. And they still have to be relatively deep. I meant in real football terms.

As for who you mentioned I was an agholor fan when he came out but he was pretty awful last year and Randle is a pretty awful wr too. As is adams. And if Janis can't beat out adams for a job that's not a good sign for him.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

1) Reed and DJax couldn't stay healthy before, why would they now? They'll probably miss 10 games combined this season
2) Crowder is 23 yrs old, getting ready to start his 2nd season, I don't think the book has been written on what he can do in the NFL just yet
3) I don't know of anybody drafting Doctson as a starter, and you can get Crowder as your last pick if you want, I'm not talking about your starting lineup week 1 here
4) Jay Gruden runs a dink-n-dunk offense, find the seams, dump on screens, and slants in the middle of the field, which is where Crowder plays.
5) I was getting tired of looking at which players I liked at the tops of the draft board, and saw a chance for an athletic, young slot receiver to get more reps and more time with the 1s since another guy is banged up right now/for the last few months.
6) A closer look at the development of Redskins wide receiver Jamison Crowder


Someone to keep an eye on imo.

 

[eaglesnut]

Assuming you're talking nfl 5th or 6th WR I disagree. I'd bet he's better than at least half the nfls #3 WRs. But if you're talking fantasy then yea I agree. Don't expectanything from him this year.

Desean and Reed traditionally miss substantial time. Crowder will have startable weeks if Doctson isn't in the picture. Might have them anyway.

 

[TREFF]

Oh no fantasy he's only own able in dynasty leagues really. And they still have to be relatively deep. I meant in real football terms.

As for who you mentioned I was an agholor fan when he came out but he was pretty awful last year and Randle is a pretty awful wr too. As is adams. And if Janis can't beat out adams for a job that's not a good sign for him.

Okay, well that I can get behind. In each and every instance it would come down to fit in that teams system, but yes, Crowder is good enough to at minimum be in the discussion to be a #3 on most any team, that I have no real arguments on, very valid position.

 

[Chef99]

Jordan Matthews expected to remain working in the slot with Agholor outside.

Verrrrry interesting. Will it hold water? I'm not as down as many seem to be on Aggie. Little too soon to write him off as a first round bust.

As to Crowder, I'm with Monkey and Eagle on him. He's got potential and if injury happens, good things could happen with him. At present with him playing in the slot and the other 3 with big play upside, he's more of an interesting stash.

 

[SteelersPride]

im gonna go in

I'd take him over

Dallas' #3
Phillys' #2 (everybody behind mathews)
New Yorks' #3
Green Bays #3
Minnesotas #3
Chicago's #3
Atlantas #3
Carolinas #2
Tampa bays #3
Seattle's #3
San Franciscos #2
St Louis' #2
New England's #3
New Yorks #3
Buffalo's #2
Cleveland #3
Baltimores #2
Pittsburghs #3
Cincinnatis #2
Houstons #3
Tennessees #3
Kansas City's #2
Denvers #3

Granted that's just my opinion but I think these are all reasonable (and that there's a few more I could argue) and that's 23 teams right there. Plus at least 8 teams he's better than their #2 imo.

here we goo
buffalo-yep
miami-nope gimme stills
new england-nope gimme nate washington or chris hogan, actually this is close, they are different receivers
Jets-yep hes better than their 3
ravens-tough but im saying no, smith? aiken? perriman? no no no wallace maybe equal
bengals-id rather have lafell, or boyd
steelers-better than wheaton or coates?
texans-possibly, see what strong and fuller bring once they get some action
Indy-yes, i dont believe in dorsett
jags-no, lee is good if hes healthy, plus rashad greene is good
titans-whose 3? mathews? DGB? wright? andre? douglas? id take 3 of them over him
broncos-crowder vs lattimer? ehh i guess crowder
raiders-no id rather have seth roberts or andre holmes just me
chargers-now with james jones, sorry id rather have jones
cowboys-yeah hes better than their 3
giants-yes
eagles-personally, gimme randle
falcons-id rather have hardy
panthers-tedd ginn did light it up this year.......
saints-yeah lots of unknowns here
bears-royal is good if hes healthy, and wilson can get some balls
lions-better than boldin? nope
packers-nope , adams, janis, montgomery, noooooo
vikings-yeah hes better
bucs-yep
cards-no chance
rams-call me crazy but id rather have austin, britt, or quick when healthy
49'ers-LOL
seahawks-noppppppe

id go into more detail but got stitiches in my hands tonight and i cant type, but said id reply, i count like 8 that i say hes better than

 

[averagejoe]

id go into more detail but got stitiches in my hands tonight and i cant type

What happened?

1) Reed and DJax couldn't stay healthy before, why would they now? They'll probably miss 10 games combined this season

But the problem (at least in terms of re-draft leagues) is that DJax is still a legit threat when he is healthy.
And Crowder may have more potential, but in order for Crowder to succeed, you basically need DJax to get hurt for more than just a few games. Same for Garcon and Reed too. Just seems like too many dominoes to fall for Crowder to make his mark. That to me is risky.

 

[SteelersPride]

What happened?


But the problem (at least in terms of re-draft leagues) is that DJax is still a legit threat when he is healthy.
And Crowder may have more potential, but in order for Crowder to succeed, you basically need DJax to get hurt for more than just a few games. Same for Garcon and Reed too. Just seems like too many dominoes to fall for Crowder to make his mark. That to me is risky.

hand slipped changing a lawn mower blade, its what u get for being hasty

 

[TREFF]

hand slipped changing a lawn mower blade, its what u get for being hasty

Oh damn. .yea, that'd do it

 

[HaroldSeattle]

hand slipped changing a lawn mower blade, its what u get for being hasty

Hope it wasn't real bad.