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[Barilko]

O'Brien is available.

 

[tlance]

Well he gets open REALLY well when playing outta the slot, so playing him there, like a traditional "WR3", isn't a terrible idea..the problem is not throwing him the ball like a 1A or 1B, and still throwing to Gallup instead..so it either Dak or Kellen Moore depending in play design.

Even bigger issue pertaining to "density" is having Cedric Wilson on the feild at all, let alone consistently throwing him the ball over Cooper/Lamb

Playing him in the slot is fine.

Lots of WR1s play out of the slot at times.

What is not fine is limiting him to 70-75% of the snaps while Cooper and Gallup are getting more.

 

[averagejoe]

Playing him in the slot is fine.

Lots of WR1s play out of the slot at times.

What is not fine is limiting him to 70-75% of the snaps while Cooper and Gallup are getting more.

Did my dump of 2021 NFL stats this week.
Lamb played on less snaps but was still the most targeted Dallas WR.
And even the difference in Lamb's snap% was miniscule (55.1) compared to Cooper (55.6) and Gallup (55.3).

 

[tlance]

Did my dump of 2021 NFL stats this week.
Lamb played on less snaps but was still the most targeted Dallas WR.
And even the difference in Lamb's snap% was miniscule (55.1) compared to Cooper (55.6) and Gallup (55.3).

Yeah, I don’t know where you are getting those numbers from, but they aren’t right.

If you look at games where all 3 were active and fully healthy for most of the game, which is a small sample, you get this:

Week 1: Lamb 73%, Cooper 89%, Gallup 60%- Gallup left early

Week 10: Cooper 66%, Gallup 53%, Lamb 42%

Cooper was inactive 11 and 12 and a part time player week 13.

Week 14: Cooper 88%, Gallup 82%, Lamb 67%

Week 15: Cooper 93%, Gallup 92%, Lamb 69%

Week 16: Lamb 74%, Cooper 71%, Gallup 66%

Week 17: Gallup got hurt

All 3 are talented WRs. But That is pretty damning that the snap counts are so low for far and away the best player of the 3.

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Lamb is good, but there's prob something we're missing as to why his snaps were down when Gallup was healthy.

Run blocking, knowledge of the playbook, freelance route running, not being in the right place at the right time...a lot of things that aren't easy to spot on Sunday that could have big impact on playing time and targets for WRs

Mike McCarthy could be another hurdle he has to overcome as well, I don't consider him to be a highly intelligent HC, he still hasn't figured out how to manage the game clock 20yrs into this

 

[TREFF]

Yeah, I don’t know where you are getting those numbers from, but they aren’t right.

If you look at games where all 3 were active and fully healthy for most of the game, which is a small sample, you get this:

Week 1: Lamb 73%, Cooper 89%, Gallup 60%- Gallup left early

Week 10: Cooper 66%, Gallup 53%, Lamb 42%

Cooper was inactive 11 and 12 and a part time player week 13.

Week 14: Cooper 88%, Gallup 82%, Lamb 67%

Week 15: Cooper 93%, Gallup 92%, Lamb 69%

Week 16: Lamb 74%, Cooper 71%, Gallup 66%

Week 17: Gallup got hurt

All 3 are talented WRs. But That is pretty damning that the snap counts are so low for far and away the best player of the 3.

Agreed with everything you said, except the last line...Lamb has in no way surpassed Cooper, and certainly is not far and away better. It's a stretch to say he's even equal to Cooper. He may be a better athlete, not a better player

 

[tlance]

Agreed with everything you said, except the last line...Lamb has in no way surpassed Cooper, and certainly is not far and away better. It's a stretch to say he's even equal to Cooper. He may be a better athlete, not a better player

Ok, but Gallup?

 

[SmokingMonkey]

Ok, but Gallup?

He's good too

 

[SmokingMonkey]

this Dallas WR conversation has me chuckling a bit. When they drafted Lamb, everyone was hoping Gallup disappeared but most still realized that this was going to create headaches for target share between Coop/Lamb/Gallup.

Now that it actually has created those headaches, we're trying to figure it out, when the answer could just be as simple as Dallas has 3 good WRs, so none of them will separate themselves significantly when it comes to stats

 

[TREFF]

Ok, but Gallup?

I'm %100 with ya on Gallup.

But as Monkey pointed out, there are other factors at play too. But, I'd prefer Cooper/Lamb %100

 

[SmokingMonkey]

I'm %100 with ya on Gallup.

But as Monkey pointed out, there are other factors at play too. But, I'd prefer Cooper/Lamb %100

Anyone can dig up my thoughts on Cooper vs Gallup, but I'll concede and say that this is the right combo imo as well.
Still think one of Gallup or Cooper will not be playing for Jerry next season, but we'll see

 

[obxyankeefan]

Anyone can dig up my thoughts on Cooper vs Gallup, but I'll concede and say that this is the right combo imo as well.
Still think one of Gallup or Cooper will not be playing for Jerry next season, but we'll see

Please be Cooper Please be Cooper.

 

[TREFF]

this Dallas WR conversation has me chuckling a bit. When they drafted Lamb, everyone was hoping Gallup disappeared but most still realized that this was going to create headaches for target share between Coop/Lamb/Gallup.

Now that it actually has created those headaches, we're trying to figure it out, when the answer could just be as simple as Dallas has 3 good WRs, so none of them will separate themselves significantly when it comes to stats

They have 2 great ones, and one pretty good one.

And that pretty good one is a '22 UFA, and the Boys have a very affordable out on Coopers ridiculous contract too..so that's likely tochange, somehow, someway

 

[averagejoe]

don’t know where you are getting those numbers from, but they aren’t right.

Fairly certain it was pulled from Profootball reference. Easier to do VLOOKUP when all data is from the same source.

They might be including all snaps, special teams and defense. I will double check.

 

[molsaniceman]

Yeah, I don’t know where you are getting those numbers from, but they aren’t right.

If you look at games where all 3 were active and fully healthy for most of the game, which is a small sample, you get this:

Week 1: Lamb 73%, Cooper 89%, Gallup 60%- Gallup left early

Week 10: Cooper 66%, Gallup 53%, Lamb 42%

Cooper was inactive 11 and 12 and a part time player week 13.

Week 14: Cooper 88%, Gallup 82%, Lamb 67%

Week 15: Cooper 93%, Gallup 92%, Lamb 69%

Week 16: Lamb 74%, Cooper 71%, Gallup 66%

Week 17: Gallup got hurt

All 3 are talented WRs. But That is pretty damning that the snap counts are so low for far and away the best player of the 3.

targets say otherwise maybe the others are better blockers is why the snap count is lower for lamb

 

[TREFF]

Anyone can dig up my thoughts on Cooper vs Gallup, but I'll concede and say that this is the right combo imo as well.
Still think one of Gallup or Cooper will not be playing for Jerry next season, but we'll see

You put this up as I was writing my other one..I didn't see it

 

[SmokingMonkey]

targets say otherwise maybe the others are better blockers is why the snap count is lower for lamb

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Injuries and covid and what not is why tlance was looking specifically at the games they were all healthy. Smaller sample but only thing to go off since total season stats leave out a lot of context

 

[averagejoe]

don’t know where you are getting those numbers from, but they aren’t right

Just to follow up... those numbers i provided are wrong. I pulled stats from the wrong column into the spreadsheet.

Thanks for catching that.

 

[Payton]

Somebody would have to exceptionaly dense to sell low on Lamb, but hey, ill bet they'reout there somewhere. Now, Jerry Juedy....there's a buy low that you MIGHT get done

As a Jeudy owner, I’d like to hear your take here. I know the QB situation was a hinderance… But Sutton and Patrick seem to be favored WRs and now Hamler will be coming back… add in Fant and I’m just not sure where Jeudy fits in. I guess it depends who the next coach is, but I am admittedly at the end of my rope with him as I don’t see his path to being the WR we were promised when he was drafted…

 

[SmokingMonkey]

As a Jeudy owner, I’d like to hear your take here. I know the QB situation was a hinderance… But Sutton and Patrick seem to be favored WRs and now Hamler will be coming back… add in Fant and I’m just not sure where Jeudy fits in. I guess it depends who the next coach is, but I am admittedly at the end of my rope with him as I don’t see his path to being the WR we were promised when he was drafted…

if you're talking fantasy, good luck finding someone to take him at a decent price at this point, not going to get anything near a 1st round value for him, he's reached toss-in territory in my book