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Saints' RB Alvin Kamara has had an unexcused absence from training camp the past three days and it is believe to be contract related, per sources.
 

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Fournette cut? Jags sandbagging the season? Geez I'm so glad I own zero shares in him, but he get picked up quickly. Hopefully he doesn't screw up a backfield by being added to the wrong team, for example say the Packers or Rams or Seahawks.
Is there any team that that would apply to outside of TB? which has the need, but doesn't seem like a fit worth a fuck
 

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Is there any team that that would apply to outside of TB? which has the need, but doesn't seem like a fit worth a fuck
Yeah but lets say a team like the Cowboys pick him up he's not replacing Zeke. 49ers come to mind as a landing spot that doesn't matter for FF purposes, at least not as much. Redskins is another.
 

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I don’t know that he could do to a team with a worse offensive situation. Awful QB play for most of his career and bad OL play
 

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Yeah but lets say a team like the Cowboys pick him up he's not replacing Zeke. 49ers come to mind as a landing spot that doesn't matter for FF purposes, at least not as much. Redskins is another.

any chance seattle with the injuries their RBs are coming back from. Seems kinda like a Carroll type RB, minus the attitude part, of course
 

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ya know what kinda makes sense, yet totally doesn't in another way...

Tennessee.

Vrabel is obviously a Hoodie disciple, and what's more Belichek-ian than signing a division rival's cast off to milk for strategy?? That and hes an obvious fit, style wise

Of course they have ZERO need for him though
 

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ya know what kinda makes sense, yet totally doesn't in another way...

Tennessee.

Vrabel is obviously a Hoodie disciple, and what's more Belichek-ian than signing a division rival's cast off to milk for strategy?? That and hes an obvious fit, style wise

Of course they have ZERO need for him though
I like it.
 

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My opinion of that is they wanted to take a parting shot at him out the door. Jalen Ramsey for a while has been saying there is a culture issue in Jax. He said it was more than one person. The Jags vilified TC once he left and they blamed him for everything. Two more of the better players on the team are gone. The front office is full of clowns.

Here is a stat for you:

2016-Present of all the top 5 picks in the NFL among all 32 franchises, only two are not currently with the team that selected them...Jalen Ramsey and Leonard Fournette.

Here is another one:

Not including Blake Bortles, because it was an awful mistake, name the last Jaguar first round pick to get a second contract. No cheating

How many of them were even worth a second contract though?
 

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Saints' RB Alvin Kamara has had an unexcused absence from training camp the past three days and it is believe to be contract related, per sources.
Trouble brewing in NOLA.
 

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Going back to Mercedes Lewis, I'm gonna say two, Ramsey and Fournette. :)

I wouldn't even give fournette that much credit but yeah pretty much. They've got some issues down there (not that I have much room to talk).
 

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I wouldn't even give fournette that much credit but yeah pretty much. They've got some issues down there (not that I have much room to talk).
Well worthy of a second contract, and just how much that contract should be worth, are two totally different things :)
 

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ya know what kinda makes sense, yet totally doesn't in another way...

Tennessee.

Vrabel is obviously a Hoodie disciple, and what's more Belichek-ian than signing a division rival's cast off to milk for strategy?? That and hes an obvious fit, style wise

Of course they have ZERO need for him though

no cap room after the sign Clowney
 

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Thats the issue. Outside of the outlier year with Bryan at 29, the Jags average is 4.1 I think. Garbage drafting
Since we're talking about overall incompetency running the team..I'd say go back to when Khan took over ('12) and installed Caldwell as GM ('13)-let's go with since 13, give the rookie owner one year of slack..wth?

Counting only thier own draft picks, thier average draft position is 7.75 -take out the one magic year, its 4.7.
Going through thier draft history, they do pretty decent in rounds 2, & 3, maybe 4 as well...but man, do they suck at nailing down the first. Makes me wonder if the owner/GM let thier egos override the scouts/coaches for the "primetime" picks, and then let the scouts/coaches have the rest?

Regardless, zero improvement over previous ownership/management since Coighlin was shown the down. Perhaps even regression.
 

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Since we're talking about overall incompetency running the team..I'd say go back to when Khan took over ('12) and installed Caldwell as GM ('13)-let's go with since 13, give the rookie owner one year of slack..wth?

Counting only thier own draft picks, thier average draft position is 7.75 -take out the one magic year, its 4.7.
Going through thier draft history, they do pretty decent in rounds 2, & 3, maybe 4 as well...but man, do they suck at nailing down the first. Makes me wonder if the owner/GM let thier egos override the scouts/coaches for the "primetime" picks, and then let the scouts/coaches have the rest?

Regardless, zero improvement over previous ownership/management since Coighlin was shown the down. Perhaps even regression.

I think this is fair, no sense in penalizing them for the previous regime.

and it still tells the same story, lol

hard to find a worse front office in the game right now, the other teams know it too.

need to make a lopsided trade? call BOB
need to pluck some talent off another team for free? wait for the jags to get some talent, they'll F it up
 

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I think this is fair, no sense in penalizing them for the previous regime.

and it still tells the same story, lol

hard to find a worse front office in the game right now, the other teams know it too.

need to make a lopsided trade? call BOB
need to pluck some talent off another team for free? wait for the jags to get some talent, they'll F it up
Houston, recently, and Washington, definitely giving them a run for thier money.
 

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Since we're talking about overall incompetency running the team..I'd say go back to when Khan took over ('12) and installed Caldwell as GM ('13)-let's go with since 13, give the rookie owner one year of slack..wth?

Counting only thier own draft picks, thier average draft position is 7.75 -take out the one magic year, its 4.7.
Going through thier draft history, they do pretty decent in rounds 2, & 3, maybe 4 as well...but man, do they suck at nailing down the first. Makes me wonder if the owner/GM let thier egos override the scouts/coaches for the "primetime" picks, and then let the scouts/coaches have the rest?

Regardless, zero improvement over previous ownership/management since Coighlin was shown the down. Perhaps even regression.
That includes situations where Josh Allen and Jalen Ramsey fell in their lap. Their decision to extend Bortles and take LF over Watson or Mahomes should have sealed all of their fates.
 
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