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averagejoe

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You’re also basing it off your surgeries not elite athlete abilities. But I’ll stay mum. We’ve had many conversations over injuries before.
True.
But after the plate was put in my leg in my late 20's I still played on the corporate softball team. Was still one of the fastest outfielders on our team.

And after the ACL replacement in my 40's was still out-skating a lot of the 20-somethings and teens in our league.

If anything the extra 40 lbs slowed me down, not the surgeries or the recovery.
 

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True.
But after the plate was put in my leg in my late 20's I still played on the corporate softball team. Was still one of the fastest outfielders on our team.

And after the ACL replacement in my 40's was still out-skating a lot of the 20-somethings and teens in our league.
I’ve had 2 complete shoulder reconstructions, a acl-pcl, glute-tfl, complete meniscus removal, and 50%horizantal meniscal tear and removal. I also have some medical knowledge in rehab. But it is what it is. I find normally most arguments are always met with counter arguments. Off the top of my head I remember arguing how Jamal Charles was gonna be fine, or Cobbs ac joint injury wouldn’t affect him. Point is u can recover, it’s no guarantee though. Much less for. Guy that hasn’t played a down in the nfl.
 

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True.
But after the plate was put in my leg in my late 20's I still played on the corporate softball team. Was still one of the fastest outfielders on our team.

And after the ACL replacement in my 40's was still out-skating a lot of the 20-somethings and teens in our league.

If anything the extra 40 lbs slowed me down, not the surgeries or the recovery.

Joe, I didn't know you roller skated!

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averagejoe

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I’ve had 2 complete shoulder reconstructions, a acl-pcl, glute-tfl, complete meniscus removal, and 50%horizantal meniscal tear and removal. I also have some medical knowledge in rehab. But it is what it is. I find normally most arguments are always met with counter arguments. Off the top of my head I remember arguing how Jamal Charles was gonna be fine, or Cobbs ac joint injury wouldn’t affect him. Point is u can recover, it’s no guarantee though. Much less for. Guy that hasn’t played a down in the nfl.
How'd you do that ?
 

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I’ve had 2 complete shoulder reconstructions, a acl-pcl, glute-tfl, complete meniscus removal, and 50%horizantal meniscal tear and removal. I also have some medical knowledge in rehab. But it is what it is. I find normally most arguments are always met with counter arguments. Off the top of my head I remember arguing how Jamal Charles was gonna be fine, or Cobbs ac joint injury wouldn’t affect him. Point is u can recover, it’s no guarantee though. Much less for. Guy that hasn’t played a down in the nfl.

How'd you do that ?

Better question is: how'd you afford that? :pound::pound::pound:
 

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So, someone refresh my memory: If the cops are dropping the charges, why would the NFL impose a punishment?


TYREEK HILLWR, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

According to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, "barring any further developments, there is every reason to believe" Tyreek Hill will be back with the Chiefs before the start of next month's training camp.
This comes on the heels of a report that Johnson County police are no longer pursuing criminal charges against Hill, who had been under investigation for alleged child abuse against his three-year-old son. To this point Kansas City has banned Hill from all team activities, though Pelissero suspects the Chiefs will lift his suspension ahead of next month's training camp. Even if that happens, Hill, who previously pled guilty to domestic assault and battery after choking his pregnant girlfriend in college, will surely face a lengthy suspension from the NFL. Roger Goodell tends to drag his feet when it comes to league-imposed punishments, so don't expect a resolution to the Hill saga any time soon.
 

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So, someone refresh my memory: If the cops are dropping the charges, why would the NFL impose a punishment?
Pretty sure it's an image issue.
Debatable obviously.
But to the NFL, apparently allegations are just as damaging as being guilty.
 

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Do not mess with Bill O'Brien. :nono::nono::nono:

Texans fired GM Brian Gaine.
Gaine lasted just one season into his five-year deal. It's an unexpected firing, but Gaine hadn't done much to improve Houston's roster during his brief time. EVP Chris Olsen will take over football operations in the interim. Finding a replacement for Gaine could be tricky given the presence of Bill O’Brien, who has a history of GM power struggles. Gaine is unlikely to be in the mix for New York's GM job, but he should resurface in a lesser role.
 

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According to what I've read on the Hill deal is the DA is not pursuing the matter, however, below is still open and an active case. .. as well as the NFL itself.
From TMZ and others;
"As for Hill's future, he still has an active case ongoing with the Kansas Department for Children and Families ..."
 

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According to what I've read on the Hill deal is the DA is not pursuing the matter, however, below is still open and an active case. .. as well as the NFL itself.
From TMZ and others;
"As for Hill's future, he still has an active case ongoing with the Kansas Department for Children and Families ..."

Plus there is a recording of him threatening his girlfriend. Jimmy Smith got 4 games for threats to his GF last year without the recording/son with a broken arm. I think Hill gets a minimum of 8 games and i wouldn't be surprised if he gets a indefinite suspension considering his past history and the severity of this incident.
 

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Plus there is a recording of him threatening his girlfriend. Jimmy Smith got 4 games for threats to his GF last year without the recording/son with a broken arm. I think Hill gets a minimum of 8 games and i wouldn't be surprised if he gets a indefinite suspension considering his past history and the severity of this incident.
the wheels turn slowly in these things - millions of $$ at stake - could be another Zeke or Peterson thing and drag into the season.
 

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Actual soccer study.
never said it wasnt, thanks. Its the point that pro athletes arent a cinch to return to form, if you would like me to scour other studies, they arent hard to find. You can be your usual smart ass self all you want, the facts are out there.

People are worried about arthritis in gurley's knee, but tearing an actual ligament and the residual changes are no worry, got it.
 

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the wheels turn slowly in these things - millions of $$ at stake - could be another Zeke or Peterson thing and drag into the season.
If it does indeed move slowly, you can write off Hill for the fantasy season.
He's still banned from the Chiefs.
And if the comparison @Stomp referenced is any indication, missing 8 games beginning after the NFL season has started would be a death knell.
 

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