Fairley gone now too.

[LPinSLC]

Nick is just scratching the surface of his potential.

So is Stafford. Year 15 is where you see what you've had in a QB.

 

[LPinSLC]

1/2 season and he was playing well. Stats didn't tell the whole story he was occupying Olineman and letting the LBs do their job. I can't fault his injury but Mosley stepped in and didn't miss a beat.

Double those stats JD. Two sacks, 28 tackles... I Wanted to see him meet his potential but he never did, ever...
He was overweight, over hyped, and He underachieved.
He had very few suitors for a reason. A career backup mirrored his stats.

 

[Dr. Evil-er]

New scheme, half a season and it was Suh that took him out. He paid his dues and the Wonder Twins wrote him off... I think he'll be motivated if he's not injured.

Are you mocking me by calling them The Wonder Twins or have you seen the error of you way from our past discussions?

 

[TBBishop]

I would have given Fairley what he got from STL. It's too bad but he has a lot to prove. Obviously the entire league felt the same way so I really don't have a problem with it.

 

[Rollingthndr]

Fuck Fairley.
He was a top 15 draft pick that never had one season that lived up to that draft status.

 

[VulturesRule]

...
He was a top 15 draft pick that never had one season that lived up to that draft status.

The other way to look at this is that the bar was set way too high for him when drafted. Based on his productivity and health over his career, he seems to fit a high risk label. His draft spot was a gamble that did not pay off as handsomely as hoped for. Good luck to him, maybe a change of scenery will be what finally motivates him.

 

[Microwahevo]

The other way to look at this is that the bar was set way too high for him when drafted. Based on his productivity and health over his career, he seems to fit a high risk label. His draft spot was a gamble that did not pay off as handsomely as hoped for. Good luck to him, maybe a change of scenery will be what finally motivates him.

Actually I thought he was a projected top 5 pick? Then he kept falling and it seemed a no-brainer to take him at 13(I think that's where we got him). Obviously, in retrospect his weight and work ethic were right to be questioned.

 

[gandydancer]

Actually I thought he was a projected top 5 pick? Then he kept falling and it seemed a no-brainer to take him at 13(I think that's where we got him). Obviously, in retrospect his weight and work ethic were right to be questioned.

Yes, he was 13th pick. He was a high risk high reward guy IMO. I remember some still questioning the pick due to work ethic in college. For a guy who fell to the Lions I accepted the risk.

He was in the first class with new rookie CBA. Drafting kids with risk is not as costly now. Winston does not pan out for someone and yes you wasted a pick, but not at Sam Bradford's cost.

 

[LionsWhyMe]

Are you mocking me by calling them The Wonder Twins or have you seen the error of you way from our past discussions?

Lol... if you knew me from CBS you would've known I'm not a fan of the front office... since you have no idea about the meaning behind the Wonder Twins, you took it upon yourself to try and make me look like a fool. I don't need any help at being a Jester.

 

[gandydancer]

The real Wonder Twins could join forces and make a DT in the form of King Kong Suh...

Wonder twin powers activate. BAM

 

[LionsWhyMe]

The real Wonder Twins could join forces and make a DT in the form of King Kong Suh...

Wonder twin powers activate. BAM

Yea, they were shape shifters with a sidekick called Mighty Monkey.

 

[LionsWhyMe]

Wonder Twins Gleek - Bing Videos

Near the end... Wonder twin powers activate:
form of a Pterodactyl
form of "Crap"

It's too funny now with "Gleek made the Champ a Chump".

 

[gandydancer]

Reggie Bush visiting Patriots. Hope they sign him just so I can hear about how much smarter the Lions are than the Champs, for letting him go.

Oh they let him go to. Left with out even a offer.

Went from one dumpster fire to another in San Fran.

 

[TBBishop]

The other way to look at this is that the bar was set way too high for him when drafted. Based on his productivity and health over his career, he seems to fit a high risk label. His draft spot was a gamble that did not pay off as handsomely as hoped for. Good luck to him, maybe a change of scenery will be what finally motivates him.

Had his work ethic been there and his character been intact, he would have never made it to Detroit at #13. He was a top 5 talent. His expectation were not too high at all.

 

[TBBishop]

Yes, he was 13th pick. He was a high risk high reward guy IMO. I remember some still questioning the pick due to work ethic in college. For a guy who fell to the Lions I accepted the risk.

He was in the first class with new rookie CBA. Drafting kids with risk is not as costly now. Winston does not pan out for someone and yes you wasted a pick, but not at Sam Bradford's cost.

Hmmm, I can't agree with that. If Winston doesn't work out, it won't cost the Bucs as much money but Lovie Smith and Jason Licht wil be looking for employment elsewhere. It will be very, very costly.

 

[gandydancer]

Hmmm, I can't agree with that. If Winston doesn't work out, it won't cost the Bucs as much money but Lovie Smith and Jason Licht wil be looking for employment elsewhere. It will be very, very costly.

Not talking about the coaches or GMs and there risk. Just money. Anyway Mayhew has no risk in any move. Ford's have no accountability.

 

[gandydancer]

Hmmm, I can't agree with that. If Winston doesn't work out, it won't cost the Bucs as much money but Lovie Smith and Jason Licht wil be looking for employment elsewhere. It will be very, very costly.

I know I never explain the way my noodle is thinking. Huge difference if Suh and Fairley were reversed in production after drafting money wise. Risk is lower now after smaller investment for early picks.

 

[Rollingthndr]

Yes, he was 13th pick. He was a high risk high reward guy IMO. I remember some still questioning the pick due to work ethic in college. For a guy who fell to the Lions I accepted the risk.

He was in the first class with new rookie CBA. Drafting kids with risk is not as costly now. Winston does not pan out for someone and yes you wasted a pick, but not at Sam Bradford's cost.

Based on price of contract and production (for the Rams). Is Bradford the biggest draft bust of all time?

 

[gvsulaker82]

So is Stafford. Year 15 is where you see what you've had in a QB.

Stafford is turning what 27. Looks to me like hes just hitting his prime. We know he clearly has the arm and talent. I dont expect him to be peyton manning because hes not but I do expect him to consistently be a top five qb the next five years. If he isnt, I will gladly admit Im wrong.

 

[gandydancer]

Based on price of contract and production (for the Rams). Is Bradford the biggest draft bust of all time?

Prolly could say yes when looking at money verse production. There have been many busts to get paid immensely with nothing to show for.

Now when Ryan Leaf got paid the dollar amount was high for that time period.