FA & Draft needs

[skinsdad62]

Is it under its own thread cause I don't see it?

its in another thread , i will copy and paste the OP and move it here , just must starting post

 

[skinsdad62]

here is a look at some FA's and draft picks we can look at and some more ways to free up cap space
we will be 31 mil under the cap to start with but here are some cuts we can make and what they do to our cap

carriker 3.6 savings dead space 3.1
chester 2.7 savings dead space 1.6
monty 1.9 savings dead sapce 1.5
morgan 6.3 savings dead space 3.7
LBF 4.6 savings dead space 2.1
stieger 1.1 savings dead space 2.2

that gives us an additional 20.2 mil but it will cost 14.2 mil in dead space

now if we do that then i would sign free agents who are under 28 that should be the teams standard

so here are my 2 targets for center

alex mack 28 yrs old he made 2.9 mil . what does it take to bring him in ? i say 4 mil
brian de la puente 28 he made 2.0 mil i say 4 mil gets him here

so now we are at 16.2 mil and we have overpaid for a center but this is just a gage
next we have OG

zane beadles 28 he made 1 mil / i figure we offer 2 mil he is a pro bowl guard as is mack above
mike mcglynn 28 he made 1 mil
so 2 ogs will cost 4 mil

we are at 12.2 mil and we have a new interior o/line

next we have ilb

brandon spikes 26 he made 837,000 last season to pry him away we will need about 3 mil
dj williams 26 he made 1.7 mil again i see 3 mil to 4 mil here

so now we have 8.2 mil

we have Cb next

aquib talib made 5 mil and is 28 i would say 7 brings him in
sam shields made 2 mil and is 27 maybe you get him for 5 mil

so for the sake of argument we spend 7 mil

that leaves 1.2 mil for a new punter on money we have saved on cuts

now for the 31 mil

franchise Rak at 10 mil (should be less but for the sake of argument)
resign hall at 4 mil
resign jackson at 1.5 mil
doughty at 1 mil we are at 16.5 mil

that looks like a couple of playmaking wr's there

now here are some draft prospects we could look at in rounds 2-3

ILB shane skov ilb 6-3 244 4.75
ILB christian jones 6-4 232 4.62
Cb louchez purifoy 6-1 189 4.4
CB antoine exum 6-1 224 4.58
S haha clinton dix 6-1 205 4.53
S calvin prior 6-2 205 4.53
S deone bucannon 6-1 215 4.56 speed
OT antoine richardson 6-6 332 lbs
OT cameron erving 6-6 310 lbs
OG cyril richardson 6-5 335
OG xavier su a filo 6-5b 315

so this is one way to fix the team , i am sure some others have different ways but here is my 1st look

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[gkekoa]

1. LB - Trade for Poz
2. CB - Some good FA's out there
3. FS - Draft
4. OL - Draft
5. WR - FA and Draft but not till 4th rd.

I rather trade Cousins to a team for a proven starter rather then a 2nd or 3rd round pick. Really wish we could get LB Posluszny for Cousins and I would actually give up a late rd pick plus Cousins for Poz.

I wouldn't give up Cousins for Poz straight up.

 

[gkekoa]

Free agents to sign and go into the draft selecting best player available and we will be set next year
1.Jon Asamoah - OG
2.Eugene Monroe - RT
3.Wesley Woodyard- LB
4.Aqib Talib - CB

Asamoah will probably cost 6 to 8 mil/season.
Monroe will cost 10 mil/season.
Woodyard will cost 3-6 mil/season.
Talib will cost 5 to 7 mil/season.

That at least 26 mil on those four guys...that's without resigning RAK, Riley, and Hall (3 guys I assume you were counting on staying).

 

[skinsdad62]

Asamoah will probably cost 6 to 8 mil/season.
Monroe will cost 10 mil/season.
Woodyard will cost 3-6 mil/season.
Talib will cost 5 to 7 mil/season.

That at least 26 mil on those four guys...that's without resigning RAK, Riley, and Hall (3 guys I assume you were counting on staying).

well GK cutting chester , morgan moss LBF carriker , and stieger would cover that

if those guys are under 28 you would have to look at it

 

[j_y19]

Morgan, moss and Fletcher aren't under contract for next year, they are all FAs so they won't save us anything.

 

[duke1861]

1. ILB
2. Free Safety
3. CB We don't need another starter here unless you mean we have to sign Hall
4. Center
5. RG We need to replace Montgomery. He's in charge of protections and our OL can't pick up an interior blitz. We only need to replace one interior lineman.
6. WR We don't need a starting WR.
7. Punter

After the NEEDS list, the WANTS list is:

8. DE
9. Strong Safety
10. RT

As usual, we have our work cut out for us. Good luck to the Front Office.

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I am lost Gkekoa

We don't need another CB starter? So Amerson and Crawford will start? Wilson, Biggers and Hall will be gone. Unless I am missing someone else on the team who is a starting CB. Amerson is fine, but we need a shut down corner.

Same regarding WR. The only WRs we will have under contract are Garcon, Robinson and Hankerson. Hankerson will be coming off an LCL tear and and has been average at best. I have ZERO confidence in him being a long term starter. He is a great #3, but that is about it. Are you assuming he and Garcon will start? Hankerson's problem is that he cannot get seperation and he doesn't have the best set of hands. RG3 basically has Garcon and Reed as targets. He needs more help.

 

[duke1861]

Asamoah will probably cost 6 to 8 mil/season.
Monroe will cost 10 mil/season.
Woodyard will cost 3-6 mil/season.
Talib will cost 5 to 7 mil/season.

That at least 26 mil on those four guys...that's without resigning RAK, Riley, and Hall (3 guys I assume you were counting on staying).

That means we would have 15 million left to fill holes on the team with. A Safety and WR should be priority. The draft would fill in the gaps.

 

[skinsdad62]

Morgan, moss and Fletcher aren't under contract for next year, they are all FAs so they won't save us anything.

» Over the Cap- Washington Redskins 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

this is the 2014 cap

all of those guys are on it

 

[skinsdad62]

I am lost Gkekoa

We don't need another CB starter? So Amerson and Crawford will start? Wilson, Biggers and Hall will be gone. Unless I am missing someone else on the team who is a starting CB. Amerson is fine, but we need a shut down corner.

Same regarding WR. The only WRs we will have under contract are Garcon, Robinson and Hankerson. Hankerson will be coming off an LCL tear and and has been average at best. I have ZERO confidence in him being a long term starter. He is a great #3, but that is about it. Are you assuming he and Garcon will start? Hankerson's problem is that he cannot get seperation and he doesn't have the best set of hands. RG3 basically has Garcon and Reed as targets. He needs more help.[/QUOTE]

wait , you are seriously stating that we should start crawford who is coming off an ACL and was like 5th on the depth chart before he was hurt ?

 

[skinsdad62]

That means we would have 15 million left to fill holes on the team with. A Safety and WR should be priority. The draft would fill in the gaps.

31 mil - 26 mil = 5 mil

 

[j_y19]

» Over the Cap- Washington Redskins 2014 Salary Cap and Contracts

this is the 2014 cap

all of those guys are on it

I'm pretty sure that's a mistake. Morgan signed a 2 year deal with us for $12M which expires after this year. Moss and Fletch both were re-signed on one year deals this last off season.

 

[Krusheasy]

Washington Redskins Player Contracts, Salaries, & Transactions

 

[j_y19]

Thanks Krush. This shows them all as FAs for next year, as I thought. So there is no savings to be had from these guys, unfortunately.

 

[gkekoa]

Dad and Krus...the two sites you provide don't jive. According to yours Dad, the three mentioned (LFB, Moss, and Morgan) will cost money against next years cap and we save money by cutting them. According to Krus' they don't because they are FAs.

 

[gkekoa]

I am lost Gkekoa

We don't need another CB starter? So Amerson and Crawford will start? Wilson, Biggers and Hall will be gone. Unless I am missing someone else on the team who is a starting CB. Amerson is fine, but we need a shut down corner.
I agree with you here. I was trying to figure out if you planned on letting Hall go in FA and I'm for resigning him.

Same regarding WR. The only WRs we will have under contract are Garcon, Robinson and Hankerson. Hankerson will be coming off an LCL tear and and has been average at best. I have ZERO confidence in him being a long term starter. He is a great #3, but that is about it. Are you assuming he and Garcon will start? Hankerson's problem is that he cannot get seperation and he doesn't have the best set of hands. RG3 basically has Garcon and Reed as targets. He needs more help.[/QUOTE]
I do have Hankerson as my other starter until we draft somebody to supplant him. Realistically, Reed is our #2 pass catcher and Hankerson is our #3. That's one reason you won't find Hankerson's numbers too high. He gets much better separation than people give him credit for too.

 

[gkekoa]

That means we would have 15 million left to fill holes on the team with. A Safety and WR should be priority. The draft would fill in the gaps.

I'm not sure how much money you're starting with but if you spend 26 million and we are working with 32 million, that's only 6 million and you still have to sign your rookies. You are totally dismissing depth in this process.

 

[j_y19]

Dad and Krus...the two sites you provide don't jive. According to yours Dad, the three mentioned (LFB, Moss, and Morgan) will cost money against next years cap and we save money by cutting them. According to Krus' they don't because they are FAs.

Actually, the site Dad cites also shows them as FAs for next year on another page. I'm 99% sure that all three are FAs. We renegotiated with moss for his last year, reducing his 2013 salary. Morgan was a 2 year deal that is over after this year. And we signed Fletcher for one year after he went shopping and got no bites.

 

[Krusheasy]

Dad and Krus...the two sites you provide don't jive. According to yours Dad, the three mentioned (LFB, Moss, and Morgan) will cost money against next years cap and we save money by cutting them. According to Krus' they don't because they are FAs.

The More You Know

 

[skinsdad62]

Actually, the site Dad cites also shows them as FAs for next year on another page. I'm 99% sure that all three are FAs. We renegotiated with moss for his last year, reducing his 2013 salary. Morgan was a 2 year deal that is over after this year. And we signed Fletcher for one year after he went shopping and got no bites.

http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

here is a 2nd web site that has that has morgan and LBF signed while moss isnt

i dont know how moss's redo shakes out but sportstrac , the one krusheasy is using is supposed to be accurate however i have found , warpath and over the cap are pretty good

but there is another website that i have