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Who does he think he is fooling ?
 

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Told ya!! IF we win it basically solves everything. I agree it a long shot that Dan sells the team or he is forced to sell the team.
because that guy says it its true right dean ? no it isnt . you told me making the playoffs would change things , it didnt
 

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because that guy says it its true right dean ? no it isnt . you told me making the playoffs would change things , it didnt

Of course, it did. It made last years off season much more exciting. We lost are starter in Week 1. Huge blow for any team.
 

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Of course, it did. It made last years off season much more exciting. We lost are starter in Week 1. Huge blow for any team.
yeah i was watching the league worst attendance and immediately thought , my god making the playoffs turned this fan base around
 

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Told ya!! IF we win it basically solves everything. I agree it a long shot that Dan sells the team or he is forced to sell the team.
This is just not true and everyone knows that. Just because Rick Snider says it, doesn't mean it's true. He is simply giving his opinion.
It is mind-boggling to me that people are doing Snyder's work for him. Snyder wants us all to get distracted and focus on anything other than the truth. The truth is that this organization that once was a pillar in the NFL has been destroyed. We literally are LAST in NFL attendance and have 1 playoff win in 17 years......so the fans clearly get it.

Winning does not fix a rotten foundation. It just doesn't. I feel you continue to not grasp the reality of the situation here. If you are right, and "winning" will fix it, why is the organization aiming to build the smallest stadium in the league? Clearly, they aren't banking on it. A few fluke win seasons does not address the decay that has set in.

You can't say the past is the past when unethical and criminal behavior continues. Snyder allegedly withheld funds from other owners as of last year. . Snyder would love nothing more than the fans to give him a mulligan and continue buying tickets. The letters from Rivera, Dan, and Wright are comical, and nobody is buying it. Snyder claims he is not involved in the affairs of the team, but skips town in the name of "Commanders business".

Snyder is being subpoenaed, yet we need to focus on winning? The situation will NOT improve until Snyder is out. That is what the fans must concentrate on. Praying for Wentz to save us actually hurts the situation. If you want to support an owner who built a culture of intimidation, sexual harrassment, cover-ups, and violation of civil right, go right ahead Dean. Go ahead and continue to claim we are a step away from turning this all around.

If winning does cure everything, then we have the wrong group to do it. Rivera has proven he is not a winning coach (3 winning season in 11) and Carson Wentz is at his worst when the game is on the line. Sounds like we need a better GM/coach and starting QB right? You have failed to admit that.
 

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Of course, it did. It made last years off season much more exciting. We lost are starter in Week 1. Huge blow for any team.
No it didn't. Maybe for you and the Snyder fan club...but not the majority of the fan base.
 

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This is just not true and everyone knows that. Just because Rick Snider says it, doesn't mean it's true. He is simply giving his opinion.
It is mind-boggling to me that people are doing Snyder's work for him. Snyder wants us all to get distracted and focus on anything other than the truth. The truth is that this organization that once was a pillar in the NFL has been destroyed. We literally are LAST in NFL attendance and have 1 playoff win in 17 years......so the fans clearly get it.

Winning does not fix a rotten foundation. It just doesn't. I feel you continue to not grasp the reality of the situation here. If you are right, and "winning" will fix it, why is the organization aiming to build the smallest stadium in the league? Clearly, they aren't banking on it. A few fluke win seasons does not address the decay that has set in.

You can't say the past is the past when unethical and criminal behavior continues. Snyder allegedly withheld funds from other owners as of last year. . Snyder would love nothing more than the fans to give him a mulligan and continue buying tickets. The letters from Rivera, Dan, and Wright are comical, and nobody is buying it. Snyder claims he is not involved in the affairs of the team, but skips town in the name of "Commanders business".

Snyder is being subpoenaed, yet we need to focus on winning? The situation will NOT improve until Snyder is out. That is what the fans must concentrate on. Praying for Wentz to save us actually hurts the situation. If you want to support an owner who built a culture of intimidation, sexual harrassment, cover-ups, and violation of civil right, go right ahead Dean. Go ahead and continue to claim we are a step away from turning this all around.

If winning does cure everything, then we have the wrong group to do it. Rivera has proven he is not a winning coach (3 winning season in 11) and Carson Wentz is at his worst when the game is on the line. Sounds like we need a better GM/coach and starting QB right? You have failed to admit that.

Im saying the football side. Fans will return if the team becomes a consistent winner.
 

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Im saying the football side. Fans will return if the team becomes a consistent winner.
You don't get it I am afraid.

It is all related. You continue to detach the front office and ownership from the team. They are part of the same organization. Snyder owns the football side actually.

We cannot simply ignore the sexual assault cover-up, videotapes of cheerleaders in their private rooms, propositions for relations with female employees, and repeated attempts to intimidate and discredit victims. Snyder would love for us to concentrate on "the football side" as you speak. Tell me this, why should the fans come back Dean? The product on the field stinks, however, even worse, the organization is guilty of abusing employees and intimidating people who fought against it. Please tell me why I should give money to this owner to support HIS team?

We as a fanbase cannot simply ignore or excuse the "past" in the name of winning on the field. You claimed that winning fixes everything. Does winning absolve our owner of fostering a culture of abuse and harassment? I cannot understand how you are only focused on winning some meaningless games while the entire organization and its structure are rotten to the core. What am I not understanding here? For the only time in US history, an NFL owner has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress. Yet, you post videos of Rick Snider saying we need to win some games???

The fans should and will hopefully continue to boycott this disaster. Cheering for the fans to come back is short-sighted and irresponsible. Winning some games will not undo what has happened or what continues to happen. Getting rid of the owner is the only route to saving the organization. I am not sure how you are failing to see this. There is a reason why I and many others are considering dropping the team and moving on. It is impossible to support the team while more truth is being uncovered and the owner tried and continues to try to cover it up and scare people into dropping their complaints.
 
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You don't get it I am afraid.

It is all related. You continue to detach the front office and ownership from the team. They are part of the same organization. Snyder owns the football side actually.

We cannot simply ignore the sexual assault cover-up, videotapes of cheerleaders in their private rooms, propositions for relations with female employees, and repeated attempts to intimidate and discredit victims. Snyder would love for us to concentrate on "the football side" as you speak. Tell me this, why should the fans come back Dean? The product on the field stinks, however, even worse, the organization is guilty of abusing employees and intimidating people who fought against it. Please tell me why I should give money to this owner to support HIS team?

We as a fanbase cannot simply ignore or excuse the "past" in the name of winning on the field. You claimed that winning fixes everything. Does winning absolve our owner of fostering a culture of abuse and harassment? I cannot understand how you are only focused on winning some meaningless games while the entire organization and its structure are rotten to the core. What am I not understanding here? For the only time in US history, an NFL owner has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress. Yet, you post videos of Rick Snider saying we need to win some games???

The fans should and will hopefully continue to boycott this disaster. Cheering for the fans to come back is short-sighted and irresponsible. Winning some games will not undo what has happened or what continues to happen. Getting rid of the owner is the only route to saving the organization. I am not sure how you are failing to see this. There is a reason why I and many others are considering dropping the team and moving on. It is impossible to support the team while more truth is being uncovered and the owner tried and continues to try to cover it up and scare people into dropping their complaints.
dean didnt post the video , i did . other then that everything you said is spot on . . corruption just rots an entity . and it wont change until dan is gone or he miraculously has a come to jesus moment

you and i are 2 posters struggling with this outright , others are as well . what i hope is this gets cleaned up and then i can fairly look at the new team and see if its one i can support . hard to do that now
 

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dean didnt post the video , i did . other then that everything you said is spot on . . corruption just rots an entity . and it wont change until dan is gone or he miraculously has a come to jesus moment

you and i are 2 posters struggling with this outright , others are as well . what i hope is this gets cleaned up and then i can fairly look at the new team and see if its one i can support . hard to do that now
Understood. I was responding to his response about how winning will fix everything.

I generally enjoy Rick Snider's take on things and I see what he is saying. Bottom line, each day brings more embarrassing allegations against Snyder and the team. I believe he has the right to face his accuser and allegations, and have his day in court. The problem is that he ran from that. He will also run from the subpoena as well. We are innocent until proven guilty in this country. However, the facts show that he attempted to harass and intimidate his accusers. He also made up the most ridiculous lie about not being present at the hearing. He did not legally have to attend, so he took that out.

However, that does not help his case of proving his own innocence. If these are lies and conspiracies, he should prove that. However, he thumbs his nose at the hearing request and goes sailing on his yacht.

What I am not understanding is how a fan can simply brush this aside and not care about it. The most embarrassing day as a fan that I had was this Wednesday. No Dallas loss or on-the-field issue to me touches what happened on Wednesday. The NFL commissioner publically admitted that we had the worst culture he has seen. It didn't even stop there as you know. Testimony after testimony bore the fact that women were intimidated, harassed, and abused at work. Our fan base has ZERO credibility now and the NFL is asking how we can each support such a pathetic organization. Instead of being present to challenge or explain these allegations, our owner lied and fled the country.

Why in the world would this not matter to the average fan of this team? If this was happening to any other team, posters on the board would be calling for that owner to be kicked out and the team moved. We would also call out the fans of the said team and question their integrity.
However, we have posters here who believe a few more wins will solve the years of civil rights violations that our team leadership has encouraged and attempted to hide. Yet, we need to put our trust in Carson Wentz, be a little more positive, and place bets on the number of wins for 2022?
 

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You don't get it I am afraid.

It is all related. You continue to detach the front office and ownership from the team. They are part of the same organization. Snyder owns the football side actually.

We cannot simply ignore the sexual assault cover-up, videotapes of cheerleaders in their private rooms, propositions for relations with female employees, and repeated attempts to intimidate and discredit victims. Snyder would love for us to concentrate on "the football side" as you speak. Tell me this, why should the fans come back Dean? The product on the field stinks, however, even worse, the organization is guilty of abusing employees and intimidating people who fought against it. Please tell me why I should give money to this owner to support HIS team?

We as a fanbase cannot simply ignore or excuse the "past" in the name of winning on the field. You claimed that winning fixes everything. Does winning absolve our owner of fostering a culture of abuse and harassment? I cannot understand how you are only focused on winning some meaningless games while the entire organization and its structure are rotten to the core. What am I not understanding here? For the only time in US history, an NFL owner has been subpoenaed to testify before Congress. Yet, you post videos of Rick Snider saying we need to win some games???

The fans should and will hopefully continue to boycott this disaster. Cheering for the fans to come back is short-sighted and irresponsible. Winning some games will not undo what has happened or what continues to happen. Getting rid of the owner is the only route to saving the organization. I am not sure how you are failing to see this. There is a reason why I and many others are considering dropping the team and moving on. It is impossible to support the team while more truth is being uncovered and the owner tried and continues to try to cover it up and scare people into dropping their complaints.

I dont condone what Synder did. You disagreed with me about winning. Thats all I'm saying. If this team wins on the field, I think fans will come back to the stadium.
 

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