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I broke my own request about the name calling, I apologize for that. But I stand by everything else I wrote

But the libs didn't lie, not sure where you got that. And they sure as Hell aren't saying this is minor shit. NBC is covering the Biden docs extensively, they are making it clear it's a really big deal. My posts do as well.

As for the "photo op" from the "libs" which is comical given the Director of the FBI was a Trump appointment and loyal to Trump and the majority of agents working on that case are as well given the political makeup of all law enforcement.. That was a legit picture showing just how important the docs seized at the Trump home were based on the file folder's classification designation.
Are you saying that liberal politicians are immune from lying??? your Evaluation of Biden is kinda like dean’s evaluation of wentz. dude, deception is synonymous with lying. Trumps is a huge liar, not just this instance. Do I really
need to go back and point out the numerous lies Biden and other liberals have stated.

these absolute positions you take (ex. gop lies, dems don’t) just blow any credibility in your argument. Let’s take this out of party and focus on individuals, you would probably get a more receptive response. And I realize you have never used those terms directly. But your responses sure tend to be interpreted as such.

bottom line, they both deceived in some form or fashion. One is no more, or less acceptable.
 
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Yep. Biden was so honest he waited for 6 years to say he stole classified info as a VP
 

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Are you saying that liberal politicians are immune from lying???

I literally just replied to a poster on the Politics board who claimed libs are saying their politicians don't lie. Of course that's not true and I'm not sure where you would get that from my post.

I'm simply pointing out that regarding the Trump and Biden scandals I have seen no evidence that they lied, have you? What lies were told by libs with regard to the Trump docs which is what the poster was referencing? According to the Trump folks the entire FBI and DOJ are the big bad libs, even though the majority of the agents are conservative and the Director of the FBI is a Trump guy. If you ask me that claim was the lie.
 

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Yep. Biden was so honest he waited for 6 years to say he stole classified info as a VP

So you believe he knew they were there the entire time? You have no way to know that, you are just throwing up shit.
 

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I literally just replied to a poster on the Politics board who claimed libs are saying their politicians don't lie. Of course that's not true and I'm not sure where you would get that from my post.

I'm simply pointing out that regarding the Trump and Biden scandals I have seen no evidence that they lied, have you? What lies were told by libs with regard to the Trump docs which is what the poster was referencing? According to the Trump folks the entire FBI and DOJ are the big bad libs, even though the majority of the agents are conservative and the Director of the FBI is a Trump guy. If you ask me that claim was the lie.
I can’t, because I don’t hold those positions. But they both deceived. My issue is you seem to believe one was not harmful while the other needs to be prosecuted. A lie is a lie……
 

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I can’t, because I don’t hold those positions. But they both deceived. My issue is you seem to believe one was not harmful while the other needs to be prosecuted. A lie is a lie……

If you told your mom that you liked her dry roast beef when you didn't is that the same thing as telling your wife you didn't cheat on her when you did given "a lie is a lie"?

And again not revealing a scandal right before the mid-terms is not a lie. Now if he was asked if had documents and said no well that's a lie. But of course that's not what happened. Not sure what you are referring to with regard to "one was not harmful while the other needs to be prosecuted". I have taken great lengths to explain the differences between the Trump doc scandal and the Biden doc scandal. Both were harmful, potentially. But one was far worse for the reasons I have already posted.

As I explained I'm not totally opposed to not influencing elections with other issues totally unrelated to the candidates, which is what you are asking for by having Biden come clean in November.

Again I'll ask you if you think it's fair that a candidate should lose his/her election because the moron former President or Vice President was careless with documents? Do you think that would be fair?
 

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Your ideas don’t jive with plain facts . I spelled it out for you with my real world experience . Your were wrong about Russiagate , wrong on impeachment, wrong about insurrections , wrong about guns . Wrong about covid and vaccines.
when are you going to wake up ?
 

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If you told your mom that you liked her dry roast beef when you didn't is that the same thing as telling your wife you didn't cheat on her when you did given "a lie is a lie"?
That depends. Just how dry is the roast beef?
 

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If you told your mom that you liked her dry roast beef when you didn't is that the same thing as telling your wife you didn't cheat on her when you did given "a lie is a lie"?

And again not revealing a scandal right before the mid-terms is not a lie. Now if he was asked if had documents and said no well that's a lie. But of course that's not what happened. Not sure what you are referring to with regard to "one was not harmful while the other needs to be prosecuted". I have taken great lengths to explain the differences between the Trump doc scandal and the Biden doc scandal. Both were harmful, potentially. But one was far worse for the reasons I have already posted.

As I explained I'm not totally opposed to not influencing elections with other issues totally unrelated to the candidates, which is what you are asking for by having Biden come clean in November.

Again I'll ask you if you think it's fair that a candidate should lose his/her election because the moron former President or Vice President was careless with documents? Do you think that would be fair?
It’s not the severity of the lie. It’s what is revealed about the liar. You seem to miss that point
 

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It’s not the severity of the lie. It’s what is revealed about the liar. You seem to miss that point
The point remains this is just politics and both sides do it. To get up in arms about it when this sort of thing happens all the time is just being naïve. And again not to be technical but not revealing something is not a lie. You can call it deceit if you would like but stop calling it a lie please.
 

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Your ideas don’t jive with plain facts . I spelled it out for you with my real world experience . Your were wrong about Russiagate , wrong on impeachment, wrong about insurrections , wrong about guns . Wrong about covid and vaccines.
when are you going to wake up ?

I didn't say jack shit about guns and I think you would be surprised at my opinion on that. Once again you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

As for the rest of this post, well I'll just say I got boosted in September, got COVID in October and the result was a relaxing 8 day staycation with the occasional cough or sniffle. Morons who shared your opinion ended up on sites that profiles anti-vaxers and how they died a horrible death. I won't even address the rest of your comment as it's like talking to a brick wall.
 

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The point remains this is just politics and both sides do it. To get up in arms about it when this sort of thing happens all the time is just being naïve. And again not to be technical but not revealing something is not a lie. You can call it deceit if you would like but stop calling it a lie please.
that doesnt make it right, nor do you have to settle for it. This is exactly what is wrong with our society today. Both sides. We, the masses, have settled, and in some cases supported, leaders who are willing to deceive us to further their own personal agendas.
not me, brother. And it shouldn’t be you. I’m gonna call it as I see it.
 

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I didn't say jack shit about guns and I think you would be surprised at my opinion on that. Once again you are just pulling shit out of your ass.

As for the rest of this post, well I'll just say I got boosted in September, got COVID in October and the result was a relaxing 8 day staycation with the occasional cough or sniffle. Morons who shared your opinion ended up on sites that profiles anti-vaxers and how they died a horrible death. I won't even address the rest of your comment as it's like talking to a brick wall.
Bs , I didn’t close to dying a horrible death and I didn’t have any staycation . Got it twice and blew right through it . And I have tons of video showing what was said about the vax and what the truth is

all I know is I have been right repeatedly
 

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The point remains this is just politics and both sides do it. To get up in arms about it when this sort of thing happens all the time is just being naïve. And again not to be technical but not revealing something is not a lie. You can call it deceit if you would like but stop calling it a lie please.
And to let shit go like that is enabling
 

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Your ideas don’t jive with plain facts . I spelled it out for you with my real world experience . Your were wrong about Russiagate , wrong on impeachment, wrong about insurrections , wrong about guns . Wrong about covid and vaccines.
when are you going to wake up ?

I'll take it back, I've got one more thing to add. Regarding your real life experiences of witnessing documents at former President's libraries I don't doubt that you saw them. But it seemed pretty clear to me that they would 1st have to get permission through the national archives. So I looked into it just now what do you know, that's exactly the case.

It's pretty safe to say that Trump did not go through this process, he never once made that claim. It also goes without saying that the documents you saw on the Bush library were not nearly as sensitive as the documents found at Trump's home in files marked TS/SCI.

So once again your gotcha moment on me has fallen flat on its face

"Since presidential records are U.S. government property, a former president has to receive permission the archivist to display presidential records"


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that doesnt make it right, nor do you have to settle for it. This is exactly what is wrong with our society today. Both sides. We, the masses, have settled, and in some cases supported, leaders who are willing to deceive us to further their own personal agendas.
not me, brother. And it shouldn’t be you. I’m gonna call it as I see it.
I will ask you for the third time. Do you think it's right that a candidate loses a close election, Democrat or Republican, over something he or she had nothing to do with? And that's exactly what would have happened if the DOJ pressed charges against Trump or Biden revealed this scandal right before the mid-terms
 

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I'll take it back, I've got one more thing to add. Regarding your real life experiences of witnessing documents at former President's libraries I don't doubt that you saw them. But it seemed pretty clear to me that they would 1st have to get permission through the national archives. So I looked into it just now what do you know, that's exactly the case.

It's pretty safe to say that Trump did not go through this process, he never once made that claim. It also goes without saying that the documents you saw on the Bush library were not nearly as sensitive as the documents found at Trump's home in files marked TS/SCI.

So once again your gotcha moment on me has fallen flat on its face

"Since presidential records are U.S. government property, a former president has to receive permission the archivist to display presidential records"


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As I said I have seen them and no one has been harassed by it no president needs their permission and nowhere In the constitution does it require it
 
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