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[skinsdad62]

1st off I never gave Biden a pass. Please try and keep up, read my posts and come back when you know what you're talking about.

Next as I have carefully explained to you time and time again regardless of the classification of the documents citizen Trump was not legally allowed to possess them. Once again you don't know what you're talking about. And he sure is Hell was not legally allowed to commit Obstruction of Justice by lying to federal authorities.

goddam , if they arent classified he can . all presidents are allowed to do it and they do it all the time

 

[skinsdad62]

And I pointed out why he is wrong, with the facts to back it up. What you got? Nothing

you didnt point out a thing other then your ignorance on classified dox . its real damn simple as president he could declassify them even on his last day , fact 1

fact 2 if they are declassified , then he can have them and store them anywhere he wants

fact 3 he isnt obligated to return them or cooperate with anyone

fact 4 biden was VP at the time and he cant declassify anything

fact 5 , he is responsible for safeguarding classified material (biden )

fact 6 , the burden of proof is on the prosecution , not the defense . no one can prove trump didnt declassify the documents beyond a reasonable doubt hence they are in fact declassified and hence there is no case PERIOD

fact 7 there are no guidelines on how to declassify documents , as president he doesnt need anyones "approval "

now you need to get out of your head that the trump documents are classified because as of now they are not and because joe biden bungled his classified documents you definitely cant do shit to Trump no matter how much you want to

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

So what should be done about President Biden? Yes we all know from our readings you can't convict a sitting President but this is pretty damn serious and something should be done

 

[skinsdad62]

So what should be done about President Biden? Yes we all know from our readings you can't convict a sitting President but this is pretty damn serious and something should be done

my opinion is nothing , not on this maybe a fine or something . i am waiting for the investigations with the lap top , china , big tech collusion , but he isnt going to get impeached because he has a big D by his name and the senate wont convict him

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

you didnt point out a thing other then your ignorance on classified dox . its real damn simple as president he could declassify them even on his last day , fact 1

fact 2 if they are declassified , then he can have them and store them anywhere he wants

fact 3 he isnt obligated to return them or cooperate with anyone

fact 4 biden was VP at the time and he cant declassify anything

fact 5 , he is responsible for safeguarding classified material (biden )

fact 6 , the burden of proof is on the prosecution , not the defense . no one can prove trump didnt declassify the documents beyond a reasonable doubt hence they are in fact declassified and hence there is no case PERIOD

fact 7 there are no guidelines on how to declassify documents , as president he doesnt need anyones "approval "

now you need to get out of your head that the trump documents are classified because as of now they are not and because joe biden bungled his classified documents you definitely cant do shit to Trump no matter how much you want to

You actually believe that once a President declassifies document they are then his personal property. It's frightening that you once held a clearance because you clearly don't know what the Hell you are talking about. And again I never said anything about the documents still being classified. That was you who continues to hammer away at the classification status.​

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If you're gonna comment on my posts at least read them, that's the least you could do. It will help you look less foolish in the future​

Sorry for the bold type, it's that way when I copied and pasted the link below​

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Presidential Records Act (PRA)​

In 1978, Congress passed the Presidential Records Act (PRA), which states that any records created or received by the President as part of his constitutional, statutory, or ceremonial duties are the property of the United States government and will be managed by NARA at the end of the administration.

The Presidential Records Act

Enlarge Boxes of records and memorabilia await transport to Little Rock, AR, in January 2001 for eventual storage in the Clinton Presidential Library. (William J. Clinton Library) Under the Presidential Records Act (PRA), incumbent Presidents have exclusive responsibility for the custody and...

www.archives.gov

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

my opinion is nothing , not on this maybe a fine or something . i am waiting for the investigations with the lap top , china , big tech collusion , but he isnt going to get impeached because he has a big D by his name and the senate wont convict him

I suspect you're right. Bill Clinton didn't get impeached for lying about a blowjob, I thought that was wrong. Donald Trump didn't get impeached for any number of reasons that were legit reasons to impeach him. Partisan politics will never allow another impeachment in our lifetime and beyond

 

[skinsdad62]

You actually believe that once a President declassifies document they are then his personal property. It's frightening that you once held a clearance because you clearly don't know what the Hell you are talking about. And again I never said anything about the documents still being classified. clearances, that was you who continues to hammer away at the classification status.​

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If you're gonna comment on my posts at least read them, that's the least you could do. It will help you look less foolish in the future​

Sorry for the bold type, it's that way when I copied and pasted the link below​

​

Presidential Records Act (PRA)​

In 1978, Congress passed the Presidential Records Act (PRA), which states that any records created or received by the President as part of his constitutional, statutory, or ceremonial duties are the property of the United States government and will be managed by NARA at the end of the administration.

The Presidential Records Act

Enlarge Boxes of records and memorabilia await transport to Little Rock, AR, in January 2001 for eventual storage in the Clinton Presidential Library. (William J. Clinton Library) Under the Presidential Records Act (PRA), incumbent Presidents have exclusive responsibility for the custody and...

www.archives.gov

considering we dont know what they are ,that doesnt matter but letters from kim jung il arent that . . and that statute certainly wasnt applied to both bush's , clinton , carter , reagan , obama , ford and all took documents

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

considering we dont know what they are ,that doesnt matter but letters from kim jung il arent that . . and that statute certainly wasnt applied to both bush's , clinton , carter , reagan , obama , ford and all took documents

Yes they all took them but they returned them once they left office as required by law. You were flat out wrong to claim that once he declassified a document it's then his personal possession. I mean that's downright embarrassing that you would make that claim.

Care to comment on as his Obstruction of Justice by lying to the feds? Are you just gonna pretend that never happened?

 

[skinsdad62]

Yes they all took them but they returned them once they left office as required by law. You were flat out wrong to claim that once he declassified a document it's then his personal possession. I mean that's downright embarrassing that you would make that claim.

Care to comment on as his Obstruction of Justice by lying to the feds? Are you just gonna pretend that never happened?

No they didn’t , any dox they generated by statute are sitting in there libraries.
i havent seen any evidence of that accusation

the only thing embarrassing is your lack of knowledge on this subject .

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

No they didn’t , any dox they generated by statute are sitting in there libraries.
i havent seen any evidence of that accusation

the only thing embarrassing is your lack of knowledge on this subject

How can you be unaware of the affidavit signed by Trump's lawyers on his behalf claiming all the documents were returned when they were not. This is what I meant by obstruction as I've clearly explained. If you don't know about this then you're just demonstrating your ignorance, which has been my contention all alone. Lying to the federal authorities about the return of documents that are required by law to be returned is Obstruction of Justice Dad. Wake up.

I provided a link verifying the presidential record act and how you were fully crap about your claim that the president is now owner of these documents once they were declassified. What have you proven about my comments that was wrong. I said proof, not false claims fueled by ignorance.

 

[skinsdad62]

How can you be unaware of the affidavit signed by Trump's lawyers on his behalf claiming all the documents were returned when they were not. This is what I meant by obstruction as I've clearly explained. If you don't know about this then you're just demonstrating your ignorance, which has been my contention all alone. Lying to the federal authorities about the return of documents that are required by law to be returned is Obstruction of Justice Dad. Wake up.

I provided a link verifying the presidential record act and how you were fully crap about your claim that the president is now owner of these documents once they were declassified. What have you proven about my comments that was wrong. I said proof, not false claims fueled by ignorance.

You mean the same documents Joe Biden sigNed ? Yet one is a crime and the other is a mistake ? So by your standard Biden is guilty of lying as well

you haven’t proven anything DGF because I have put my own eyeballs on documents from the ford , Clinton , Reagan and Bush libraries that absolutely fall under the category of that statute

and again you nor I have no idea what docs were found at either place

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

You mean the same documents Joe Biden sigNed ? Yet one is a crime and the other is a mistake ? So by your standard Biden is guilty of lying as well

you haven’t proven anything DGF because I have put my own eyeballs on documents from the ford , Clinton , Reagan and Bush libraries that absolutely fall under the category of that statute

and again you nor I have no idea what docs were found at either place

Again you claim that I'm defending Biden. I'm doing nothing like that. But I sure know the difference between making a mistake and then owning up to it and calling the officials immediately and having possession of documents, refusing to return them and then lying about their return.

You can spin it any way you want Dad but that's still Obstruction of Justice. Trump did this and Biden did not. And that's the difference you fail to understand for some obscure reason

 

[skinsdad62]

Again you claim that I'm defending Biden. I'm doing nothing like that. But I sure know the difference between making a mistake and then owning up to it and calling the officials immediately and having possession of documents and refusing to return them and then lying about their return.

You can spin it any way you want Dad but that's still Obstruction of Justice.

You can spin it anyway you want Biden did the same exact thing . His lawyers ( Biden s ) signed statements saying they turned in documents . Obviously that is a lie .

can’t obstruct Justice if you didn’t commit a crime and as I have pointed out other presidents, VP’s have done the same things your vague 1978 statute says and nary a word about it , why ?

 

[skinsdad62]

Earlier this week, it was revealed that documents with classified markings from his time as vice president were found at Biden’s former office at the Penn Biden Center, and at his private residence (near his prized Corvette).
Biden had no authority to maintain possession of the documents after leaving office. The contents are unknown but are reported to include sensitive intelligence briefings relating to Iran, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.
The statute that is implicated by Biden’s conduct is the Espionage Act of 1917 — the same law under which former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was investigated, and which the Department of Justice is using to investigate Trump.
Trump is the only one of the three who can argue that, as president, he had declassification authority with regard to the memorabilia and other documents he allegedly took to his private residence.
Then-FBI director James Comey declined to prosecute Clinton, saying she did not appear to have the intent to mishandle classified information. However, as critics noted, there is no requirement of “intent” in the law.
the statement by the White House that Biden “inadvertently misplaced” the classified documents is an admission of guilt, because mishandling them is a violation of the law, even if inadvertent:
In announcing Hur’s appointment, Biden Attorney General Merrick Garland laid out the facts of the case that drove him to the decision. Biden, while he was a private citizen after the conclusion of his term as vice president, retained batches of classified information in unauthorized locations.

The reaction to the special counsel appointment by Richard Sauber, the lawyer Biden has brought into the White House to help deal with investigations, was remarkable. He said the president was confident that the special counsel investigation would find that the documents in question were “inadvertently misplaced.”

That’s not a defense to a charge of mishandling classified information. It is tantamount to an admission of guilt. For conviction, federal law requires prosecutors to establish that the defendant was grossly negligent. There is no need to prove that an accused was trying to harm the United States; just that he was trusted with classified information and carelessly flouted the standards for safeguarding it.

the statute of limitations for the law runs out after five years. Moreover, the Department of Justice has a policy against prosecuting sitting presidents.

thats a policy not a law

That leaves only one possibility,for holding the president accountable: an impeachment investigation of the president that would allow Congress to subpoena documents from the White House.

now the question is why did it take the national archives 6 damn yrs to realize dox were missing ? And if a Biden lawyer “stumbled on to them “ as the simps and apologists want you to believe then again how could the national archives not know those dox were missing ?

it’s the national archives who are after dox from Trump that started this goat fuck while attempting to drum up a felony on Trump so he can’t run or hold public office . you know it and I know it and comey violated his oath by not prosecuting HRC for her crimes

 

[Sportster 72]

"indadvertenly misplaced" is and admission of guilt. Ask any prosecuter.

 

[chillerdab]

The national archives didnt know about the missing documents probably because they’re a government agency.

Do you know ANY government agency that is efficient or well run?

You people want to shut down a fuckload of government agencies because you deem them socialist: the post office, the education department, the national parks, the IRS.

All of a sudden you have a pole up your ass about the national fucking archives?!?!

Get it together.

 

[Sportster 72]

Shut down? Wrong

Post office costing more when there is less mail in many cases.

Education which is below many countries, no don't want them to shut down. They sucked during COVID which set the kids further back.

I support parks, kids being out doors.

I really don't give a shit about the national archives other than the libs did photo ops and lied there ass off and now are saying it is minor shit. It is the same although as dad has mentioned a President had the power to declassify while a VP had no such power. Where is the raid?

And know to well run government agency which tells you conservatives are right .... smaller Govt.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

You can spin it anyway you want Biden did the same exact thing . His lawyers ( Biden s ) signed statements saying they turned in documents . Obviously that is a lie .

can’t obstruct Justice if you didn’t commit a crime and as I have pointed out other presidents, VP’s have done the same things your vague 1978 statute says and nary a word about it , why ?

I am about out of steam on this one, it's obvious there is no line Donald Trump can cross to you. Here's the huge difference that you continue to ignore Dad.

Trump was notified of the requirement to return the documents, they tried for a year to get him to comply. After getting the run around the feds finally received boxes of documents. They were told that was all there was, his lawyer signing on his behalf that all the documents had been returned. He was dishonest and deceitful from the start to the end. And again even if he did declassify those documents it does not change the content. By every single report it's clear that the Trump docs, marked TS/SCI, were much more sensitive than the docs Biden had which carried no such designation. Trump's behavior was far far more dangerous to our national security.

Now we get to President Biden. Again I am in no way giving him a pass, still looking for an apology from you on your claim that I was doing this but we know that won't happen. But as bad as Biden's behavior has been he never once lied or deceived the Federal Government. They were honest and contacted the National Archives immediately.

If you can't see how different those 2 situations are you are simply being disingenuous.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Shut down? Wrong

Post office costing more when there is less mail in many cases.

Education which is below many countries, no don't want them to shut down. They sucked during COVID which set the kids further back.

I support parks, kids being out doors.

I really don't give a shit about the national archives other than the libs did photo ops and lied there ass off and now are saying it is minor shit. It is the same although as dad has mentioned a President had the power to declassify while a VP had no such power. Where is the raid?

And know to well run government agency which tells you conservatives are right .... smaller Govt.

You should care about the National Archives and our national security if you actually cared about your country and not just Donald Trump.

Whenever I see or hear "where's the raid?" on Biden I know I'm hearing from a dumb ass. Why exactly would they need a raid when Biden was forthcoming from the start once they found, and continue to find, documents? They only raided Trump because he refused to return the documents, lying in the process.

This is not difficult.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Shut down? Wrong

Post office costing more when there is less mail in many cases.

Education which is below many countries, no don't want them to shut down. They sucked during COVID which set the kids further back.

I support parks, kids being out doors.

I really don't give a shit about the national archives other than the libs did photo ops and lied there ass off and now are saying it is minor shit. It is the same although as dad has mentioned a President had the power to declassify while a VP had no such power. Where is the raid?

And know to well run government agency which tells you conservatives are right .... smaller Govt.

I broke my own request about the name calling, I apologize for that. But I stand by everything else I wrote

But the libs didn't lie, not sure where you got that. And they sure as Hell aren't saying this is minor shit. NBC is covering the Biden docs extensively, they are making it clear it's a really big deal. My posts do as well.

As for the "photo op" from the "libs" which is comical given the Director of the FBI was a Trump appointment and loyal to Trump and the majority of agents working on that case are as well given the political makeup of all law enforcement.. That was a legit picture showing just how important the docs seized at the Trump home were based on the file folder's classification designation.