Expansion Protected/Exposed Players

[sabresfaninthesouth]

According to that tool, NTCs are not considered "movement" clauses. They have DET on there with no active restrictions. And with Larkin considered exempt, this draft got a easier on the Wings than I originally thought it would be. ...IF that tool is legit.

It seems like they're doing the best they can with the information that's out there ATM. AS the league continues to issue clarifications and new rules (hey, it is the NHL after all), they'll hopefully keep it updated.

 

[RP-29]

It seems like they're doing the best they can with the information that's out there ATM. AS the league continues to issue clarifications and new rules (hey, it is the NHL after all), they'll hopefully keep it updated.

In any case, thanks for the tool. It is pretty cool.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

In any case, thanks for the tool. It is pretty cool.

I feel like I should probably mention that I have no connection to that site in any way, it's just my go to these days for contract/cap information

 

[jstewismybastardson]

the answers probably in this thread but tldr lol

you can ask a player to waive his NMC and if he agrees, a team doesnt have to protect him in the draft, correct?

second part to this ... if a player is waiving his NMC, can it be just for the draft or is it for any other possible future transactions/trades

 

[KennyBanyeah]

the answers probably in this thread but tldr lol

you can ask a player to waive his NMC and if he agrees, a team doesnt have to protect him in the draft, correct?

second part to this ... if a player is waiving his NMC, can it be just for the draft or is it for any other possible future transactions/trades

Yes to the first point.

I dunno, good question, to the second point.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

thanks kenny

so for the canucks ... the whole mantra all along has been you are going to lose one of Hansen, Baertchsi, Granlund ... now it looks like Hansen has been asked to provide his 8 team list pre deadline and has accepted his fate

why wouldnt Benning ask Loui Erikkson to waive his NMC ?

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

the answers probably in this thread but tldr lol

you can ask a player to waive his NMC and if he agrees, a team doesnt have to protect him in the draft, correct?

second part to this ... if a player is waiving his NMC, can it be just for the draft or is it for any other possible future transactions/trades

In general the NMC/NTC waiver is conditional and goes back into effect if nothing happens. For example, if a guy agrees to waive his NMC/NTC leading up to the trade deadline but the team ends up not trading him, it's my understanding that the NMC/NTC becomes effective once again immediately following the trade deadline.

Also, since they're individually negotiated, I think the players can set any limitations/conditions on waiver that they choose, so long as it's in keeping within the general confines of the original agreement.

If that's right, I would think the NMC/NTC would kick back in right away after the expansion draft is over, assuming the player isn't selected.

 

[Judge Fudge]

Jstew. I hope we protect both Bae (has taken a step in the right direction this year) and Granuland.

Burrows doesn't need to be protected. Let him go to Vegas where he could live out his mobster dream

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

In general the NMC/NTC waiver is conditional and goes back into effect if nothing happens. For example, if a guy agrees to waive his NMC/NTC leading up to the trade deadline but the team ends up not trading him, it's my understanding that the NMC/NTC becomes effective once again immediately following the trade deadline.

Also, since they're individually negotiated, I think the players can set any limitations/conditions on waiver that they choose, so long as it's in keeping within the general confines of the original agreement.

If that's right, I would think the NMC/NTC would kick back in right away after the expansion draft is over, assuming the player isn't selected.

It's a situational thing. I don't think many players with NMC's waive it wholesale at the deadline to alllow themselves to be moved anywhere management pleases. He just submits a list of teams he'd move it for. It would be a similar scenario here - he'd agree to waive it to be moved to Vegas and nowhere else.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

protected lists wont be disclosed to the public ???

 

[esls79]

How can a GM reasonably be expected to tamper when the names aren't publicly available?

 

[dash]

How can a GM reasonably be expected to tamper when the names aren't publicly available?

Jim Benning: I can't talk about protected players on other teams

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

I couldn't care less about who's protected or not but it's funny watching journos lose their shit over stuff like this:

 

[dash]

I got this from an anonymous source (sure to make The Donald angry), but here's the Oilers protected list:

Forwards x 7:
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid

Defense x 3:
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid

Goalie:
McTalbot

The best part, they don't have to protect McDavid

 

[forty_three]

I couldn't care less about who's protected or not but it's funny watching journos lose their shit over stuff like this:

I'm with ya, they are going crazy is because they've already written the opinion pieces.

I am fine with it waiting until afterward. I might actually watch a broadcast if there is no list ahead of time.

 

[dash]

I'm pretty sure that the protected lists for all 30 teams are going to be leaked in any event.

/Damn Russians

 

[davnlaguna]

So Vegas gets the lists.
4 days of trying to get draft picks for not taking guys they don't really want
V gas turns list in and league oks it
Vegas trades extra dmen for more picks
Vegas ends up with two AHL teams and Ben Bishop as a UFA

 

[dash]

So Vegas gets the lists.
4 days of trying to get draft picks for not taking guys they don't really want
V gas turns list in and league oks it
Vegas trades extra dmen for more picks
Vegas ends up with two AHL teams and Ben Bishop as a UFA

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I got this from an anonymous source (sure to make The Donald angry), but here's the Oilers protected list:

Forwards x 7:
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid

Defense x 3:
McDavid
McDavid
McDavid

Goalie:
McTalbot

The best part, they don't have to protect McDavid

Im sick of all your coiler hatred dash. You think theyre so dumb that they dont know that they dont have to protect mcdavid. GAWDAMMIT THEY KNOW DAMMIT!

And theyre gonna use every spot to protect looch btw

 

[jstewismybastardson]

as per the cesspool, canucks will be playing Alex Biega as a forward the rest of the season and will categorize him as a forward for the expansion draft ... good effort i guess lol