Series Thread: ECF: Boston Celtics vs Cleveland Cavs

[Rock Strongo]

like it was gonna ever be a question of which team has the better coach...

but shaq keeps saying he won 52 games n stuff

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yeah....Looks like I was right here.

There isn't a difference between regular season Cleveland and playoffs Cleveland this year.

The Raptors made Cleveland look much better than they are

there is a HUGE difference---- defense

if you cant see that you are blind

the Cavs defenses has been great in the postseason for the most part. Even last night the Cavs held the Celtics to 36% shooting.

 

[Black Adam]

but shaq keeps saying he won 52 games n stuff

yeah, CLEARLY it's the booze talking if he thinks Ty Puppet's coaching had a damn thing to do with it...

 

[bksballer89]

there is a HUGE difference---- defense

if you cant see that you are blind

the Cavs defenses has been great in the postseason for the most part. Even last night the Cavs held the Celtics to 36% shooting.

Yep....explains why the Cavs will be pushed to 7 games for the 2nd time this playoffs because they're so much better than they were in the regular season

 

[bksballer89]

Cleveland defense is ranked 10th out of 16 teams in the playoffs.

2nd to last when it comes to teams who made it out of the first round

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yep....explains why the Cavs will be pushed to 7 games for the 2nd time this playoffs because they're so much better than they were in the regular season

Cleveland- 3rd in the postseason at 101 points a game

Cleveland- 26th in the regular season at 110 points a game

 

[Gman]

either that or the guy sucks

Well... we now know for a fact that the decision to not play Semi had a definite impact on the Cav's... it "threw them for a loop" from Lue's own mouth... so, it certainly seems like there is some greater significance at play there.

 

[bksballer89]

Cleveland- 3rd in the postseason at 101 points a game

Cleveland- 26th in the regular season at 110 points a game

PPG is a terrible statistic to judge defense by especially when you played 3 teams who played at a slow pace this playoffs....Boston & Indy played at a slow pace in the regular season as well. Finished tied for 23rd in pace.

Slower pace means fewer PPG allowed.

 

[bksballer89]

They're 10th out of 16 in DEF EFF and 10th out of 16 in opp fg% this playoffs.

Stop acting like their defense been good.

Yeah it's been a little better than the regular season but that wasn't hard to achieve as they were god awful

 

[Heatles84]

Yeah....Looks like I was right here.

There isn't a difference between regular season Cleveland and playoffs Cleveland this year.

The Raptors made Cleveland look much better than they are

The main difference between the Cavs from this year and the previous years is Irving.

Lebron's having to take the brunt of the scoring load which tires him out quicker. Love's a subpar 2nd option as he's inconsistent, not always healthy, and nowhere near the scoring threat that Irving is.

If the Cavs had Irving, they'd likely get past Indiana in 5, sweep the Raptors and probably won the Celtics series in 5/6. Lebron also wouldn't have to play 40+ MPG at the volume he is.

 

[bksballer89]

The main difference between the Cavs from this year and the previous years is Irving.

Lebron's having to take the brunt of the scoring load which tires him out quicker. Love's a subpar 2nd option as he's inconsistent, not always healthy, and nowhere near the scoring threat that Irving is.

If the Cavs had Irving, they'd likely get past Indiana in 5, sweep the Raptors and probably won the Celtics series in 5/6. Lebron also wouldn't have to play 40+ MPG at the volume he is.

Wiggy said they're a different team than they were in the regular season but somehow they been pushed to the brink of elimination twice before the finals. First this has happened since Lebron went back to Cleveland....but they're a different team lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

Cleveland defense is ranked 10th out of 16 teams in the playoffs.

2nd to last when it comes to teams who made it out of the first round

Crazy how they made it this far with that shit defenss

 

[bksballer89]

Crazy how they made it this far with that shit defenss

It is called having Lebron James lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

It reminds of his first stint where he had to carry the team on his back or they were an average at best. He is just exhausted, not even physically but knowing he doesn’t have enough help to beat a Houston or GS team, why make it to the Finals? Like if you make it at least you have shot, but do the Cavs really have a shot? The C’s are a very talented young team but they aren’t the Rockets or Warriors who have multiple stars and/or more depth.

There is either a big sign and trade happening and a lot of moves on this Cavs team or he is gone. I just have no clue where he would go.

Philly. Maybe, I don’t think it is a great fit.
Lakers. Nah. Why would he go out west.
Houston. Maybe, I don’t think it is a great fit either.
New Orleans. It’s the best fit for him. They would have to clear over $25. They could with Hill and Mirotic

He needs to recruit a star in a sign and trade if he stays in Cleveland.

 

[Shanemansj13]

It is called having Lebron James lol

Of course but still sometimes they look like a top 10 lottery team. Obviously, it shows how truly great he is.

 

[Wamu]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but LeBron didn't look right last night. @WiggyRuss what was the deal w/ him during the game?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

there is a HUGE difference---- defense

if you cant see that you are blind

the Cavs defenses has been great in the postseason for the most part. Even last night the Cavs held the Celtics to 36% shooting.

Just think how much more they would have won by if they didn’t miss so many bunnies.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but LeBron didn't look right last night. @WiggyRuss what was the deal w/ him during the game?

According to my pie chart, he started his period.

 

[Gman]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but LeBron didn't look right last night. @WiggyRuss what was the deal w/ him during the game?

^ I'll field this one for @WiggyRuss .

Fatigue/aging is only a partial explanation. The other half of the equation is that at some point... when the lead ballooned slightly and there was a dwindling chance of a big come back... LeBron conceded mentally as well as physically (of course, the two are interlinked, but anywho).

Another way to put that is: Lebron mentally decided that it wasn't worth it to put in a heroic physical effort that probably wouldn't be succesful anyway. So he saved what juice he had left for the next 1 or 2 games.

 

[10HtownRebs]

I'm sure this has already been mentioned but LeBron didn't look right last night. @WiggyRuss what was the deal w/ him during the game?

Lots of minutes. Getting old. Loss a step. Hair is fading....

Never win another ship in Cleveland.