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[CrashDavisSports]

I am perfectly fine with lining up in jumbo package and run every down.
I think if AJ is out, they should line Gio up at WR with Hill in the backfield

I think Gio should be on the field 75% of the time anyways, in the backfield with Hill, split out wide, in the slot, etc. I think Gio is too damn good of an athlete not to be on the field more, however, with that said, Jeremy Hill is the real deal, and HE IS the starting RB.

 

[alf8478]

I think Gio should be on the field 75% of the time anyways, in the backfield with Hill, split out wide, in the slot, etc. I think Gio is too damn good of an athlete not to be on the field more, however, with that said, Jeremy Hill is the real deal, and HE IS the starting RB.

I agree with you about Gio. I don't know why they don't have both backs in, and motion one out wide. They should have done more of that vs. NE.
But, maybe its me, I don't claim to be an expert, but something looks "off" with Gio of late. I dunno if its an injury, or he's mad about Hill taking his job, or i'm completely wrong.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I agree with you about Gio. I don't know why they don't have both backs in, and motion one out wide. They should have done more of that vs. NE.
But, maybe its me, I don't claim to be an expert, but something looks "off" with Gio of late. I dunno if its an injury, or he's mad about Hill taking his job, or i'm completely wrong.

I like Hewitt alot also, and have no complaints if they want to use like a 3 back set with Hewitt as a FB also. Talk about a lot of confusion. Plus, all three of those guys are decent pass catchers, so you can run all sorts of routes out of that formation also.

 

[bengaldoug]

Green cost us the game against Pitt, but he has won us a lot of games too. There is absolutely no reason to keep throwing AJ Green under the bus with so little regard because of a bad game.
Jesus guys.

Granted, I think Dalton would be a better QB decision making wise without Green on the team, AJ is a humble guy, with morals, a true role model for kids, and is a superstar even with a shitty game.

Let's give Green a break, as he can still help us win a playoff game if he is allowed to play on Sunday, and if he is not allowed, well, we might actually be a more fundamentally sound offense on Sunday for it.

Run - Run - Run, with some misdirection plays, short passes, screens, ball control type offense and no forcing the ball into triple coverage to get Green his touches.

I am honestly not that concerned about our offense this game, as I think Hue will have a much tighter offensive game plan ready for Indy, less predictable, and more run oriented to control the clock. It is our defense I am very concerned about. Which one shows up, and how are they going to get to Luck to put pressure on him?

We just have to keep Hilton from burning us deep, maintain contain on Luck in the pocket and get some pressure on him up the middle. Atkins needs to step up in this game.

As soon as AJ makes plays to help us win a playoff game I'll be happy to give him a break. Until then no breaks for him, Dalton, Gio, Whit, Atkins, or any of these postseason underachievers. I'm another year older with one foot a little deeper into that grave and the other closer and closer to that proverbial banana peel. Just beat the bastards. No excuses are acceptable.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I wonder if there are any idiots out there that would trade for Dalton?

it wouldn't hurt this team one bit if he left town.

 

[BKBroiler9000]

As soon as AJ makes plays to help us win a playoff game I'll be happy to give him a break. Until then no breaks for him, Dalton, Gio, Whit, Atkins, or any of these postseason underachievers. I'm another year older with one foot a little deeper into that grave and the other closer and closer to that proverbial banana peel. Just beat the bastards. No excuses are acceptable.

This should be the mindset of every single Bengals fan on earth. Couldn't agree more. Sad thing is, there are plenty who will bite the hook and buy in 100% with the Hobspin apologetic excuse ridden horse shit that is surely to follow the Bengals latest playoff failure.

 

[DanBengalfan]

how can a wide receiver make plays when Dalton misses them by 30 yards or more?

If Geno Smith had Green, Sanu, and Jones to throw to he'd be in the friggin pro bowl.

 

[bengaldoug]

how can a wide receiver make plays when Dalton misses them by 30 yards or more?

If Geno Smith had Green, Sanu, and Jones to throw to he'd be in the friggin pro bowl.

He got his chances last week and in the end choked the game away. We all know Dalton sucks. What people don't realize is Green is just as likely to fuck up as Dalton.

 

[DanBengalfan]

He got his chances last week and in the end choked the game away. We all know Dalton sucks. What people don't realize is Green is just as likely to fuck up as Dalton.

he's obviously not a genius. but with the right guidance he could be a hall of famer.

his QB throwing 5 to 10 yards in the wrong direction causing him to be in places where he's more likely to get injured doesn't help. he needs a real QB to develop and not get shell shocked.

 

[ckhokie]

Crash, you're a stats guy, why don't you check Danypant's passing stats with and without AJ. You are absolutely delusional if you think AJ Green is the 'problem' with our offense.

That being said, we need a 2nd receiver in a bad way. For sure a first 3 round pick. I'd hope to see us go with a DE, LB, WR, then look for DT

QB is still a glaring weakness on this team, but this isn't the time to get one, unfortunately. Perhaps you could take a shot on a guy like Shane Carden (QB out of ECU) in the 4th or 5th.

 

[kramer1]

ANY FUCKING QB. IT CAN'T POSSIBLY BE WORSE. IT LITERALLY CAN'T. IT CAN'T!

 

[TKOSpikes]

Oh yes it can!

 

[flamingrey]

Crash, you're a stats guy, why don't you check Danypant's passing stats with and without AJ. You are absolutely delusional if you think AJ Green is the 'problem' with our offense.

That being said, we need a 2nd receiver in a bad way. For sure a first 3 round pick. I'd hope to see us go with a DE, LB, WR, then look for DT

QB is still a glaring weakness on this team, but this isn't the time to get one, unfortunately. Perhaps you could take a shot on a guy like Shane Carden (QB out of ECU) in the 4th or 5th.

1) Our first receiver, AJ Green finds a way to get open or make a circus catch.

2) Our third receiver, our slot receiver, typically has to find a hole in the defense to get open.

Therefore, it's easy for Dalton to hit them.

The reason the "need" for a better 2nd receiver is so glaring is because Dalton can't make the required NFL caliber throws to a 2nd receiver who 1) naturally doesn't have the talent to get open like an AJ and 2) doesn't face the type of defense a slot receiver faces (i.e. defense pay more attention to them).

That's not to say we can't see an improvement at #2 from Sanu, but much of the #2 receiver issues fall on Dalton.

Lastly, Hue's offense relies more heavily on speed and players making plays down the field, something the Bengals don't have the personnel for (receivers or QB). Gruden was a better fit, hence, Dalton's better stats under him.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Crash, you're a stats guy, why don't you check Danypant's passing stats with and without AJ. You are absolutely delusional if you think AJ Green is the 'problem' with our offense.

That being said, we need a 2nd receiver in a bad way. For sure a first 3 round pick. I'd hope to see us go with a DE, LB, WR, then look for DT

QB is still a glaring weakness on this team, but this isn't the time to get one, unfortunately. Perhaps you could take a shot on a guy like Shane Carden (QB out of ECU) in the 4th or 5th.

I said, I think Dalton would be a little better QB in general without the security blanket of Green. However, you have to replace him with a quality WR still, not just ignore it. Dalton believes in Green too much and a large portion of his INT's come when throwing to Green.

With that said, Dalton is holding back Green also. Green would be much better with a QB who can hit him in stride and not lead him into mortal danger across the middle of the field on nearly every play.

 

[ckhokie]

1) Our first receiver, AJ Green finds a way to get open or make a circus catch.

2) Our third receiver, our slot receiver, typically has to find a hole in the defense to get open.

Therefore, it's easy for Dalton to hit them.

The reason the "need" for a better 2nd receiver is so glaring is because Dalton can't make the required NFL caliber throws to a 2nd receiver who 1) naturally doesn't have the talent to get open like an AJ and 2) doesn't face the type of defense a slot receiver faces (i.e. defense pay more attention to them).

That's not to say we can't see an improvement at #2 from Sanu, but much of the #2 receiver issues fall on Dalton.

Lastly, Hue's offense relies more heavily on speed and players making plays down the field, something the Bengals don't have the personnel for (receivers or QB). Gruden was a better fit, hence, Dalton's better stats under him.

I don't disagree with you. Dalton is limiting the offense regardless of who lines up at WR. Unfortunately I don't think he is going anywhere anytime soon. Sanu isn't that good. I don't know that he's even a #2 WR on 15-20 teams in the league. If our down the field passing offense is going to be better, still including Dalton, we're going to need another WR as skilled as AJ.

 

[ckhokie]

I said, I think Dalton would be a little better QB in general without the security blanket of Green. However, you have to replace him with a quality WR still, not just ignore it. Dalton believes in Green too much and a large portion of his INT's come when throwing to Green.

With that said, Dalton is holding back Green also. Green would be much better with a QB who can hit him in stride and not lead him into mortal danger across the middle of the field on nearly every play.

I can see what you're saying in theory. However, there is no way this team is 'better' or Andy is 'better' without AJ, even if you replace him with another #1 WR.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I can see what you're saying in theory. However, there is no way this team is 'better' or Andy is 'better' without AJ, even if you replace him with another #1 WR.

What needs to happen is Dalton has to stop forcing the F'n ball to Green and take what is open.

That solves most of the issues I think. LOL

 

[ckhokie]

What needs to happen is Dalton has to stop forcing the F'n ball to Green and take what is open.

That solves most of the issues I think. LOL

Agree 100%. And while a decent QB should be able to have a field day even with our current (when healthy) options, we need to continue to drastically improve our WR/TE corps

 

[DanBengalfan]

We need a QB who can open up the deep threat we had with Palmer/Henry/Johnson or Blake/Scott/Pickens

the offense is limited when you don't have that.

hell, if Green's wr in college was Dalton he'd have been drafted in the 3rd round.

here's a list of 22 nfl qbs with stronger arms than Dalton:
Matthew Stafford leads list of top 10 strongest arms - NFL.com

 

[kramer1]

Why in the fuck are you people talking about Andy Dalton? He's TERRIBLE. Absolutely AWFUL. There's nothing to discuss here.