Donald Fehr & NHLPA want to eliminate fighting

[jstewismybastardson]

It's Not Part of the Game...: Donald Fehr and NHLPA Seek to Curb Fighting in NHL



Those who denounce violence and fighting in hockey often point the Association of NHL players finger, pointing out that it does nothing to ensure the safety and protect the health of its members. Now it seems that it is no longer quite the case.

On April 25, at a meeting held at the Chateau Champlain in Montreal with a dozen influential agents, the director of the NHLPA, Donald Fehr, told his hosts that the association seeks to curb problem fights and - surprise! - NHL also started thinking in this direction.

The accumulation of scientific data confirming the permanent brain damage arising from concussions, the recent deaths of former fighters in the NHL as well as the prosecution and the possibility of a potential class action players, it seems , led to a questioning of the pharmacies in the NHL.

Fehr revealed that he had begun to see the players on how to reach a consensus and invited the agents (who came from Quebec and Eastern Ontario) to speak on the subject and it submit for thought

 

[forty_three]

Correction: they want to eliminate lawsuits from people like Derek Boogard's family.

After we kill marketing people, we kill all the lawyers.

 

[dash]

I think the elimination of fighting will likely start in junior hockey first and then filter its way up to the NHL. I wouldn't be surprised to see it disappear from the league within the next 10 years.

 

[forty_three]

I think the elimination of fighting will likely start in junior hockey first and then filter its way up to the NHL. I wouldn't be surprised to see it disappear from the league within the next 10 years.

You're right.

But I think it's a mistake. I see more disrespect at the minor levels where my son plays now than I did when I played. Very arrogant do-no-wrong kids and too few parents willing to teach them different.

Without the threat of getting the shit kicked out of them in High School games, they will only get worse.

 

[mattola]

Correction: they want to eliminate lawsuits from people like Derek Boogard's family.

After we kill marketing people, we kill all the lawyers.

what do you call 200 dead lawyers at the bottom of a swimming pool?


















/ a start

 

[forty_three]

what do you call 200 dead lawyers at the bottom of a swimming pool?


















/ a start

A state cop comes across the scene of a terrible bus accident, just as the local cop is finishing up burying the last of the bodies with a bulldozer.

State cop says "What happened here?"
Local cop "This bus carrying 150 lawyers went through the guardrail up there and all of 'em were killed. I just got finished burying them"
State cop; "Wow, all 150 died huh?"
Local cop said "Well some of 'em said they weren't dead, but you know how them lawyers lie."

 

[dash]

You're right.

But I think it's a mistake. I see more disrespect at the minor levels where my son plays now than I did when I played. Very arrogant do-no-wrong kids and too few parents willing to teach them different.

Without the threat of getting the shit kicked out of them in High School games, they will only get worse.

That's not only a big problem in sports, but in society today. When did it become acceptable to trask talk a player who needs a trainer to help him off the ice after suffering a big hit? Players that drop like they've been hit by a sniper to draw a penalty and then are magically healed and ready to take a face-off as the powerplay starts.

Somewhere along the way we got derailed and we need to get the sport and society back on the right track.

 

[forty_three]

Somewhere along the way we got derailed and we need to get the sport and society back on the right track.

Yep. And taking away a consequence of acting badly is not a solution.

 

[Comeds]

I think its time. An opposite feeling than I had 5 years ago. Most of the fights are silly IMO.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

get with the program comeds!!!

blindsided head shot = bad
mutuallly consented head shot = good

 

[elocomotive]

After we kill marketing people, we kill all the lawyers.

How about we just kill some of the lawyers?

Yep. And taking away a consequence of acting badly is not a solution.

No, making the consequence a fight is NOT the solution. You identified it in your post above, 43. It's the parenting, not the rules on fighting that are the issue.


Fighting WILL die in hockey. It WILL happen. It's just a matter of when.

 

[elocomotive]

Most of the fights are silly IMO.

Insert GIF of well known Carolina Hurricane Alex Semin playing the bongos.

 

[dash]

We also need to scrap (no pun intended) the hard plastic shoulder and elbow pads that players currently use. Has that process started?

 

[forty_three]

No, making the consequence a fight is NOT the solution. You identified it in your post above, 43. It's the parenting, not the rules on fighting that are the issue.

Fighting WILL die in hockey. It WILL happen. It's just a matter of when.

Leaving it in the hands of the same parents that will berate a 13 year old ref over an offsides?

Their kids will never learn until someone punches that little snowflake in the face. As of now, the fact they might have to fight because of their attitude is the only consequence of being a little douche. Take it away completely and it only gets worse.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

If they get rid of fightng there will be a lot more problems than if they don't. There will be a lot of lawsuits from FORMER players because of all the stickwork done to their faces. All the dirty hits that players will do because they know there aren't any reprucussions for them.

Why can't people in charge realize they have good thing going on here & leave it alone.

The NFL is quickly becoming the SFL (Sissy Football League)

For me it's simple, if you don't want to get hit or are afraid of an injury don't play the game. Try golf, soccer or tennis instead.

 

[Comeds]

We also need to scrap (no pun intended) the hard plastic shoulder and elbow pads that players currently use. Has that process started?

That makes far too much sense to ever happen.

Can anyone that has watched a lot of hockey in the last few years say that it looks to them like fighting has deterred dirty hits and kept players more respectful? It doesnt look like it to me.

 

[forty_three]

That makes far too much sense to ever happen.

Can anyone that has watched a lot of hockey in the last few years say that it looks to them like fighting has deterred dirty hits and kept players more respectful? It doesnt look like it to me.

You could argue that the stupid extra penalties for instigating and fighting with a visor has made fights less organic, leading to more cheap play trying to get the other guy to "instigate".

Let 'em go. Five each. End of story.

 

[Comeds]

You could argue that the stupid extra penalties for instigating and fighting with a visor has made fights less organic, leading to more cheap play trying to get the other guy to "instigate".

Let 'em go. Five each. End of story.

I am sure someone could. If it was just little cheap stuff I might be inclined to think that too but I don't think some of the head shots, elbows, and boardings I have seen were attempts to get the other team to instigate. And I don't see players avoiding those acts because of being worried about getting beat up. Of course, its possible if fighting was removed then the past few years amount of cheap shots might sky rocket. No way to know that for sure.

I wish I could watch HNIC this week when Donaldo hears about this. He will talk wistfully about the code the fighters have in the league, maybe even mist up. As if I havent seen plenty of fights in the past few seasons where a player starts hitting another player who doesnt want to fight (often after a clean hit), players hitting others who are on the ground, biting, and head butting. Not to mention some of his beloved enforcers going after smaller skilled players. Ah the code.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

If they get rid of fightng there will be a lot more problems than if they don't. There will be a lot of lawsuits from FORMER players because of all the stickwork done to their faces. All the dirty hits that players will do because they know there aren't any reprucussions for them.

Why can't people in charge realize they have good thing going on here & leave it alone.

The NFL is quickly becoming the SFL (Sissy Football League)

For me it's simple, if you don't want to get hit or are afraid of an injury don't play the game. Try golf, soccer or tennis instead.

thats laughable

Id be more worried about the other lawsuits

the class action lawsuits are coming especially in an environment where the department of player safety IN THE NAME OF PLAYER SAFETY is trying to ban head shots

yet they allow fighting

Im no lawyer (so thankfully I wont be killed) but thats a bit of a legal quandary

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

thats laughable

Id be more worried about the other lawsuits

the class action lawsuits are coming especially in an environment where the department of player safety IN THE NAME OF PLAYER SAFETY is trying to ban head shots

yet they allow fighting

Im no lawyer (so thankfully I wont be killed) but thats a bit of a legal quandary

I fear that if they get rid of fighting somebody is going to end up dead due to stickwork or a hit to the head. If that happens then the law will have a field day.