SlinkyRedfoot
Well-Known Member
I hope you are equally sure David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez used too, correct?
Manny tested positive. Twice. That ship's sailed, son
I hope you are equally sure David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez used too, correct?
You're a fanboy. His head went from normal to the size of beach ball over the course of his career.We already went over that. The Giants equipment manager who was his equipment manager long before he was thought to be on steroids said his hat and helmet size remained the same. All you have are pictures taken from different camera lenses and from different distances that make his head appear larger. And your eyes are lying to you.
No, that is logic. Because common sense is wrong a lot. Using the scientific method and coming to concrete conclusions are logical.
Just watch some episodes of Brain games to see how often common sense is wrong. Or how something appears one way but is something else completely.
Im not talking about the hall.
So you say ortiz may have, and clemens may have...but bonds didn't?
There is far more circumstantial evidence on bonds than there is on clemens and Ortiz.
You are asking me to speculate and I won't. They may have. But I have no proof that they did. So until there is actual proof they did not use. It is not hard to understand.
Sad part is if Bonds never injected he would still have gone down as one of the top 5 hitters ever. A lot of the players who roided needed to do it to stay relevant. Bonds didn't.
got a few opportunistic congressmen votesI'm still unclear why millions of tax dollars were poured into this pointless case in the first place. Total waste of resources.