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Does being a blue blood really mean anything?

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Since the playoff era no, that list is incorrect.

The real list reads:

Bama
Clemson
Ohio State


and that's it unless LSU wins the NC game. OU is close but they haven't been able to get into the club yet either, they need to win a NC as well.
USC and UF are not close, UF MIGHT be trending up but they haven't even made a CCG so.. no

The playoff era has created a separation in CFB that has never been seen imo, very very exclusive club these days, big separation between those 3 programs and everyone else.

As long as Clemson continues being successful, they'll continue to attract players from the South East. Same with Alabama, but they also get players from all over, including Texas. Clemson will probably start getting more players from other regions soon because of this run of success.

Ohio State might actually have the tightest grip on staying on the elite level because the talent in Ohio is plentiful, and I don't think they face nearly as much competition in signing their in state and regional talent as much as Alabama and Clemson do.
 

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I mean, nobody gives a shit what your team did 50+ years ago.

We just watched two blue bloods get taken down by two non blue bloods today.
ONLY for their fans and the media. As we see every week it's what happens between the hashmarks that matters
 

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Since the playoff era no, that list is incorrect.

The real list reads:

Bama
Clemson
Ohio State


and that's it unless LSU wins the NC game. OU is close but they haven't been able to get into the club yet either, they need to win a NC as well.
USC and UF are not close, UF MIGHT be trending up but they haven't even made a CCG so.. no

The playoff era has created a separation in CFB that has never been seen imo, very very exclusive club these days, big separation between those 3 programs and everyone else.
It is no longer blue bloods, it is good programs and ELITE programs
 

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:dingdingding:

Right now a lot of teams "rich in tradition and history" are what the modern era considers "down". Who gets back to "the top" first? Who never gets back?
USC, Texas, Michigan, Florida State, Nebraska, Tennessee, Florida, Miami, Notre Dame,

IMHO the answer is that you can eliminate Nebraska, Tennessee, Miami and FSU from the first back contention. That does not mean that they wont get there, just that their road is presently harder. Of the rest, Florida is probably in the driver's seat because of coaching and in state recruits.

Congrats you beat Mac Jones. What an accomplishment.

Too bad Saban forgot to play the other 21 starters or their backups. What an idiot he must be.

It's my opinion. Just like everyone has a different opinion of what constitutes a blue blood in college football.

I agree. To me a blue blood has to win at least one NC and multiple NCCG appearances every decade for several decades. They should also be able to pick and choose from the elite recruits from across the nation. If your coach cannot call any recruit that is elite with expectations of getting an in home visit with serious consideration for an offer … you are not there, yet. We are not there.
 

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I agree. To me a blue blood has to win at least one NC and multiple NCCG appearances every decade for several decades. They should also be able to pick and choose from the elite recruits from across the nation. If your coach cannot call any recruit that is elite with expectations of getting an in home visit with serious consideration for an offer … you are not there, yet. We are not there.

Georgia has the bolded part down. We're pulling in major recruits from across the country. Hopefully that'll eventually pay off in a natty.
 

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Georgia has the bolded part down. We're pulling in major recruits from across the country. Hopefully that'll eventually pay off in a natty.

I agree with you on that and IMHO that elevates UGA to an elite status. If and when you leg humpers get over the NC hurdle, the dominos should fall in place for you. I hate seeing that train on the tracks given the in state talent you have.
 

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History, Ron. They've been playing the game for nearly 150 years.
If that is the criteria then the Dodgers are not in.
Longevity is a legitimate requirement but then there are at least 12 more blue bloods, maybe more: White Sox, Cubs, Braves, Cardinals, Phillies, Athletics, Senators (Twins), Orioles (Browns) Giants, Tigers, Reds, Indians.
If wins vs losses plus World Series Championships is the criteria the number is cut down substantially.
 

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If that is the criteria then the Dodgers are not in.
Longevity is a legitimate requirement but then there are at least 12 more blue bloods, maybe more: White Sox, Cubs, Braves, Cardinals, Phillies, Athletics, Senators (Twins), Orioles (Browns) Giants, Tigers, Reds, Indians.
If wins vs losses plus World Series Championships is the criteria the number is cut down substantially.

You make your list. I made mine.
 

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IMHO the answer is that you can eliminate Nebraska, Tennessee, Miami and FSU from the first back contention. That does not mean that they wont get there, just that their road is presently harder. Of the rest, Florida is probably in the driver's seat because of coaching and in state recruits.



Too bad Saban forgot to play the other 21 starters or their backups. What an idiot he must be.



I agree. To me a blue blood has to win at least one NC and multiple NCCG appearances every decade for several decades. They should also be able to pick and choose from the elite recruits from across the nation. If your coach cannot call any recruit that is elite with expectations of getting an in home visit with serious consideration for an offer … you are not there, yet. We are not there.
University acceptance does play a part. Some coaches can't even consider some 5 star recruits. Notre Dame tops that list followed by most of the Big Ten and a good portion of the Pac 12 (Stanford, UCLA, USC, Cal), some SEC (Florida, Vanderbilt)
 

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University acceptance does play a part. Some coaches can't even consider some 5 star recruits. Notre Dame tops that list followed by most of the Big Ten and a good portion of the Pac 12 (Stanford, UCLA, USC, Cal), some SEC (Florida, Vanderbilt)

I absolutely agree that acceptance standards play a part. I also posit that even with the higher standards, there are enough blue chippers … say four and five stars ... that these schools can enroll and still field consistent championship caliber teams. There is an old adage that I know I am going to butcher, but: if you sign four stars, you should never lack the talent and if you sign/develop three stars, you should never lack depth.

Using the rebirth of Alabama football(I call it the Return of the Sith) as an example, the biggest difference in Alabama recruiting from Schula to Saban was that nobody expected Schula to win championships … for many reasons, probation included ... so blue chippers by and large stayed away. Once Saban changed that perception the blue chippers are three deep across both sides of the ball. Success breeds success and in recruiting, perception is reality. That is the biggest obstacle most teams face.
 

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This is actually kinda what I mean. The Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers are considered blue bloods while the Cardinals are not. They have only reached the 2nd tier.

oh man, this post DESERVES all of the rainbows!

The Cardinals are the second most successful team of all time, if there are MLB blue bloods, the Cards are definitely one of them. So are the A's and Giants.

I disagree, the Cardinals are blue bloods. If you have won titles and your fans know how to act like they have been their before that in general indicates you might be a blue blood. That applies to the cardinals.
I've been to multiple games at Yankee Stadium, Fenway Park, Dodger Stadium and Busch Stadium. Games in St Louis are a happening, not just a game. Way more atmosphere than the other three IMHO. I'd rate Fenway 2nd.
 

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University acceptance does play a part. Some coaches can't even consider some 5 star recruits. Notre Dame tops that list followed by most of the Big Ten and a good portion of the Pac 12 (Stanford, UCLA, USC, Cal), some SEC (Florida, Vanderbilt)
Ummmm No. The college admission scandal throws that into the shitter. USC, among others fired coaches because they were bribed to tell admissions that they were needed for the team. As long as they qualify through the NCAA, they're in...

The Coaches Connected to the College Admissions Fraud Case
 

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The dictionary definition of blue blood is noble birth.

Noble birth or blue look is no guarantee of any particular merit, competence or expertise.

So by definition, blue blood teams are not teams who have won or excelled lately; just teams that would be considered college football royalty. There are 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 in every big 5 conference.
 

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Clemson has 3 National Titles
Clemson has played for 100 years
Clemson has played 47 bowl games
Clemson has 30 consensus all-americans
Clemson has 750 total wins

A historical ( grade A+) program beat a historical (grade A++).

That is madness.

The world is upside down with this monument mismatch of programs.

I don’t think Clemson compares to USC. Not even close.

11 National Titles. 34 Bowl victories. 81 All-Americans.

36 Conference Champions. And don’t forget 7 Heisman Trophy winners.
 
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