DK Metcalfe and the Olympics

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

 

[jarntt]

I predicted 10.39 for Metcalf on my podcast. What did he run?

 

[gohusk]

There are WR's who won Olympic medals, TONS of NFLer faster than Metcalfe, even right now 6/7 guys who would dust him, he did football no favors.

"he did football no favors"

I'm pretty sure that he wasn't out there to do "football" favors (whatever that means). Guy wanted to run in a race and he ran in a race. I don't think anybody was under the impression that he was going to challenge for a spot in the Olympics or even qualify for the trials.I was like "don't pull a hammy" but running fast is of part of his job description anyway so who cares. He's a football player, not a Ming vase.

 

[gohusk]

Bolt ran a 9.58 at ~205 lbs. I think the size thing is a bit overstated. It might be one of those things that gets kids disqualified from a discipline because some coach thinks they're "too tall". Not saying Metkalf is that guy but that's the state of youth sports in the US right now. Kids get picked early and they're all doing the elite crap which gives them a huge advantage moving forward. Rest of the kids just say fuck it, I'm hitting my play station.

 

[jarntt]

Who knows what elite NFL athletes could do with proper training

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

If Metcalf was 6'4" 200 lbs or something that'd be one thing.

He's 6'4" and 235 lbs. Usain is 6'5"/207 lbs but has also been training his whole life for running/speed. Carrying an extra 25-30 lbs 1" less is a LOT.

And of course there's a lot of guys that are picked up by NFL teams that can run faster. Oh guess what? They're dwarves in comparison size wise, and/or barely ever have a good career or are cut and never even make a starting roster. Tyreek Hill is 5'10" and 185... that's hardly comparable to 6'4 at 235 lbs... you need a COMPLETELY different corner/safety to cover the vast difference in size between those two. The fact DK can SOMEWHAT hang period is ridiculous enough. And yes Tyreek can shift/speed his way away from players, DK just flat out tramples/stiff arms a lot of them.

 

[returnofjakedog]

If Metcalf was 6'4" 200 lbs or something that'd be one thing.

He's 6'4" and 235 lbs. Usain is 6'5"/207 lbs but has also been training his whole life for running/speed. Carrying an extra 25-30 lbs 1" less is a LOT.

And of course there's a lot of guys that are picked up by NFL teams that can run faster. Oh guess what? They're dwarves in comparison size wise, and/or barely ever have a good career or are cut and never even make a starting roster. Tyreek Hill is 5'10" and 185... that's hardly comparable to 6'4 at 235 lbs... you need a COMPLETELY different corner/safety to cover the vast difference in size between those two. The fact DK can SOMEWHAT hang period is ridiculous enough. And yes Tyreek can shift/speed his way away from players, DK just flat out tramples/stiff arms a lot of them.

Any denial that size and build has a significant impact on sprinting speed is just plain wrong.
Track and field has specific optimal body types per event just as football does for each position. Anyone that falls outside of optimal range will have some level of disadvantage.

DK Metcalf had a size disadvantage from the get go. Thinking that carrying an extra 60-70 lbs than the rest of the field had no effect is ridiculous.

Anyway, he did fine. Glad it is over and he is healthy. Back to football.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Any denial that size and build has a significant impact on sprinting speed is just plain wrong.
Track and field has specific optimal body types per event just as football does for each position. Anyone that falls outside of optimal range will have some level of disadvantage.

DK Metcalf had a size disadvantage from the get go. Thinking that carrying an extra 60-70 lbs than the rest of the field had no effect is ridiculous.

Anyway, he did fine. Glad it is over and he is healthy. Back to football.

Or.... DK is a scrub!

 

[RaZon]

"he did football no favors"

I'm pretty sure that he wasn't out there to do "football" favors (whatever that means). Guy wanted to run in a race and he ran in a race. I don't think anybody was under the impression that he was going to challenge for a spot in the Olympics or even qualify for the trials.I was like "don't pull a hammy" but running fast is of part of his job description anyway so who cares. He's a football player, not a Ming vase.

"he did football no favors"

I'm pretty sure that he wasn't out there to do "football" favors (whatever that means). Guy wanted to run in a race and he ran in a race. I don't think anybody was under the impression that he was going to challenge for a spot in the Olympics or even qualify for the trials.I was like "don't pull a hammy" but running fast is of part of his job description anyway so who cares. He's a football player, not a Ming vase.

This is pretty much the take today.....

By Jeré Longman
May 9, 2021
WALNUT, Calif. — DK Metcalf launched slowly from the starting blocks, faded over 100 meters and learned in 10.363 seconds on Sunday that elite football speed does not translate easily to elite track speed.

An All-Pro receiver for the Seattle Seahawks, Metcalf is impressively fast for a football player. He delivered one of the most memorable plays of the last N.F.L. season, exceeding 22 miles an hour while wearing his helmet and pads to chase down an Arizona defensive back who intercepted a pass.

But in what he said was his first 100-meter race, Metcalf finished last in his preliminary heat against second-tier professional sprinters and did not qualify for the final at the Golden Games, a tuneup for next month’s United States Olympic track and field trials.

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He did get those who never talk track talk some track, that's a good thing. But he was not a good example of NFL speed.

Ah.....the guy who won it all Cravon Gellespie is a first tier USA sprinter, as is Chris Belcher.

 

[RaZon]

You can't decide whether you're arguing for fast Olympic sprinters, fast NFL WRs, or just guys you think are fast but aren't particularly good at either.

What matters is DK is a great WR, he's fast as all hell on the field, and he put up a good show against professional sprinters.

Keep hating, but the film says he did what he set out to do.

Put any of those other sprinters on a football field and they're cut in mini camp.

I seriously doubt his goal was to come in last, he actually believed he could hang with legit sprinters. Where he got that idea?

No football player/sprinters in that race but TONS of world class sprinters have played pro football.

 

[RaZon]

Funny how the guys paid to know the track athletes are impressed but you know better.

A 10.36 guy is a bad example of NFL speed.

 

[returnofjakedog]

I seriously doubt his goal was to come in last, he actually believed he could hang with legit sprinters. Where he got that idea?

No football player/sprinters in that race but TONS of world class sprinters have played pro football.

Again, he didn't come in last. He beat 2 professional track athletes.

I don't know why I bother to bring it up since your reaction is extremely predictable, but no he didn't shame himself or football with his showing.

 

[RaZon]

Fast runners who tried and failed in the NFL. These are the players who couldn't hang in the NFL during their prime. This is all from the top of my head. I didn't Google any of it.

Taylor Mays 4.42
Tyrone Calico 4.42
Justin Gilber 4.37
Matt Jones 4.37
Kevin White 4.35
Tavon Austin 4.34
Trinden Holliday 4.21/4.35 combine
Phillip Dorsett 4.33
Kieth Marshall 4.31
Darius Heyward Bey 4.30
Yamon Figurs 4.30
Mike Thomas 4.30
Tye Hill 4.30
Jacoby Ford 4.29
Josh Ribinson 4.29
DeMarcus Van Duke 4.28
Jalen Mtrixk 4.28
JJ Nelson 4.28
Jerome Mathis 4.26

Again, he didn't come in last. He beat 2 professional track athletes.

I don't know why I bother to bring it up since your reaction is extremely predictable, but no he didn't shame himself or football with his showing.

Don't ignore the wind reading it is huge in sprinting when talking times. DK had + 1.0 that other heat +0.3, that puts that 10,38 ahead of his 10,36. Anytime a pro sprinter runs a 10.44 something was pulled and that guy is far faster than 10.44.

 

[RaZon]

Fast runners who tried and failed in the NFL. These are the players who couldn't hang in the NFL during their prime. This is all from the top of my head. I didn't Google any of it.

Taylor Mays 4.42
Tyrone Calico 4.42
Justin Gilber 4.37
Matt Jones 4.37
Kevin White 4.35
Tavon Austin 4.34
Trinden Holliday 4.21/4.35 combine
Phillip Dorsett 4.33
Kieth Marshall 4.31
Darius Heyward Bey 4.30
Yamon Figurs 4.30
Mike Thomas 4.30
Tye Hill 4.30
Jacoby Ford 4.29
Josh Ribinson 4.29
DeMarcus Van Duke 4.28
Jalen Mtrixk 4.28
JJ Nelson 4.28
Jerome Mathis 4.26

Point??????

 

[returnofjakedog]

Don't ignore the wind reading it is huge in sprinting when talking times. DK had + 1.0 that other heat +0.3, that puts that 10,38 ahead of his 10,36. Anytime a pro sprinter runs a 10.44 something was pulled and that guy is far faster than 10.44.

Eh. We've already gone over all of that in detail. I do acknowledge your valid points but am disappointed in your ability to return that same courtesy to others.

Peace out!

 

[Kevin12773]

Point??????

His point if I may is you’re an asshat

 

[Podunkparte]

Point??????

Yes, we're still waiting for you to get to yours.

 

[RaZon]

NFL players who ran a sub 10.36

Olympian ***

Bob Hayes 10.06 on dirt***
Trindon Holliday 10.00
Jacoby Ford 10.01
Ron Brown 10,06***
Alvis Whitted 10.07
Kay Vincent 10.07
Anthony Schwartz 10.07
Darrell Green 10.08
Sam Graddy 10.09***
Wllie Gault 10.10***
Mike Miller 10.11
Curtis Dickey 10.11
James Trapp 10.14
James Jett 10.16***
Sammie Parker 10.17
Jamaal Charles 10.18
Micheal Bennett 10.18
Tyreek Hill 10.19.............high school
Terrence Newman 10.20
Herschel Walker 10.23
Deion Sanders 10.26
Rayeem Mostert 10.2?
Curtis Conway 10.2?
Johnny Jones 10.2?***
Phil Epps 10.2?
Adrian Peterson 10.2?
Rod Woodson 10.34
Tim Dwight 10.33

sub 9.5 100 yard yards

Willie McGee 9.1
Cliff Branch 9.2
Mel Gray 9.2
Isacc Curtis 9.3
Travis Williams 9.3
J.D,Hill 9.3
Gerald Tinker 9.3***
Larry Burton 9,3***
Mark Duper 9.4
O.J.Simpson 9.4
Homer Jones 9.4
Butch Woolfold 9.4
Joe Delaney 9.4
Eric Dickerson 9.4

 

[RaZon]

His point if I may is you’re an asshat

Sweetest and cutest poster here.

 

[RaZon]

Yes, we're still waiting for you to get to yours.

When was the last time this place ever talked track, well?