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Just so that I'm clear here, the NFL has gone from a league in which almost every team had several diffrence making players on defense, even the bad ones, to a league that seems only to have a handful of guys spread out over the league in that same capacity, and we should be happy with that because IYO we have one of them?
Generally speaking, some people will never understand that what we are now seeing is a vastly watered down version of the game. Mostly likely, it is a generational thing, but, specific to me, it's very difficult to watch because I focus on where the game is won and lost....Line play. For me it is increasingly difficult to watch a guy purposely or by design not have the football acumen to adjust his play to what's happening to and around him on the field. Hell, I would even force myself to attempt to be satisfied if once in a while he chased down a guy who attempted to go around him, how about a QB or two as well?

So I guess I'll just have to concede to your stating that he is what you say that he is, comparatively speaking and by today's standards. I'm a very hard fella, set in my old ways to be sure, but forgive me for having seen excellence and unwilling to apply that label to good or pretty good. BTW: I really don't live in the past, I know times and the game has changed but like I've stated many times before, this iteration of the NFL, is increasingly more difficult for me to watch. In fact, beyond our games, there are zero games that I have watched in full and only four that I've seen second half or 4th quarters of.

I've been a Redskins fan specifically and an NFL fan in general since 1972. And while the game has always had great defensive players. I gotta say. I'm somewhat at a loss to recall this bounty of almost every team, including bad ones, having several defensive difference makers.
 

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Lets face it, the League has set it up so that all the advantages go to the offense. This is as much a reason why you don't see the dominant defenders anymore. Rules don't allow for it. The league has determined that fans like watching high scoring games so they enact rules to limit defenses.

And, yes, we should be happy that we do have a couple of impact players on defense because, as you point out, some teams have none. But too be happy doesn't mean you stop trying to improve.

Just because the league effed up that side of the ball, doesn't mean that people should accept it, like it or normalize bad play.

I've heard that other argument in many rural places in this country (the be happy because others don't have.....) as it's been applied to our political landscape where people vote time and again against their own best interest with the caveat that at least I'm not_______________ who don't have it either. (fill in the blank)

SN: my last political statement, meant to be used ONLY as an example and not to divert.
 

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Lets face it, the League has set it up so that all the advantages go to the offense. This is as much a reason why you don't see the dominant defenders anymore. Rules don't allow for it. The league has determined that fans like watching high scoring games so they enact rules to limit defenses.

And, yes, we should be happy that we do have a couple of impact players on defense because, as you point out, some teams have none. But too be happy doesn't mean you stop trying to improve.

Fantasy football's impact, which I'm not sure if anyone saw becoming the beast that it is, has been pretty significant. And while I don't play ff and personally detest it. It can't be denied that it's opened the NFL up to not only newer fans who who probably don't become fans, at least to the extent that they have. It's opened up a different kind of interest and/or fandom to longtime NFL fans and junkies.
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It's a rather inane question..... in a watered down version of the NFL such as it is, the answer is obvious. Not everyone agrees with the league's decision to change the product in favor of the offense. There are at least a couple of generations from which there are followers of the game that H.A.T.E. what's been done to it and subsequently, the lack of outstanding defensive play.

You make the claim RK would be a second stringer on other teams...but it inane to ask which teams?

I thought that was a rather obvious question to follow up with.
 

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You make the claim RK would be a second stringer on other teams...but it inane to ask which teams?

I thought that was a rather obvious question to follow up with.

Did you get that from someone else's post? I never said that RK would be a second stringer on other teams...you made that up! What I did write is that Our team goal should be to make him a second stringer here!
 

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Did you get that from someone else's post? I never said that RK would be a second stringer on other teams...you made that up! What I did write is that Our team goal should be to make him a second stringer here!

Post 62. You stated Norman and Baker are the only starters on the team. Everybody else would be a backup or not in the league.
 

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I have been saying this all along, the DC can call any set that he wants but without the players who have the abilities to EFFECTIVELY carry it out there's very little that he can do. I also agree with you that Baker and Norman kind of sums up what we have on defense that would start elsewhere or still be in the league at all. In as much as Kerrigan goes, despite making the Pro-bowl this year, from my perspective and the position that he plays there is not enough coming from him. I see him as a very good backup....if this organization ever get serious about getting top level players.


I think it is these statements that lead us to believe you don't see him as a starter. Surely you can see why we made that interpretation?
 

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Post 62. You stated Norman and Baker are the only starters on the team. Everybody else would be a backup or not in the league.
There is nothing to interpret. He stated it.

Yep, can't deny it, but it doesn't make it wrong just because others see it differently. Said that Kerrigan is a very good player, sticking with MY assessment.
 

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So you misspoke when you said he would take start elsewhere? If so, cool. I always thought Cooley was overrated.
 
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