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Not sure he had a "poor" spring, but Trevino really is throwing the ball well. And, Jelly is just a phone call away if we need him.
It isn't just down to Trivino and Hjelle. It was also Randy Rodriguez, Spencer Bivens, Joel Peguero and either Birdsong or Roupp (if the Giants choose to put one in the bullpen). To me, that says Melvin didn't have much trust in Hjelle's 2024 season or his 2025 spring training.
 

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Huff has made the team per BoMel.

Probably wouldn't be a bad idea for the Giants to add another catching option in the upper minors. The options get pretty thin beyond Max Stassi and Logan Porter. You can never have too much catching.
 

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It isn't just down to Trivino and Hjelle. It was also Randy Rodriguez, Spencer Bivens, Joel Peguero and either Birdsong or Roupp (if the Giants choose to put one in the bullpen). To me, that says Melvin didn't have much trust in Hjelle's 2024 season or his 2025 spring training.
Per BoMel, Bivens has made the team.
 

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With the pitching staff looking set, and 10 position players essentially set in stone, it seems that these five players are competing for three spots:

INF: Koss, Schmitt, Wisely

OF: Matos, McCray

Peguero's still in camp and could make bullpen (that'd be 14 pitchers/12 hitters).
 

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With the pitching staff looking set, and 10 position players essentially set in stone, it seems that these five players are competing for three spots:

INF: Koss, Schmitt, Wisely

OF: Matos, McCray

Peguero's still in camp and could make bullpen (that'd be 14 pitchers/12 hitters).
I am trying to remember, isn't there a limit on how many pitchers can be carried on the active roster and isn't it 13?
 

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With the 2 last NRIs, we still have 32 in camp.

I expect Jerry will be placed on the 60 and Murphy will start on the 15, RanRod, Miller, Chasey and Wisely will be optioned, Koss will be added to the 40/26 (taking Jerry’s spot).

That leave Pags as the odd man out, but I just don’t see room in the bully for him (or on the 40). Maybe they can DFA Meckler or Basabe, but that would require optioning Birdy (which I want anyway).
 

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With the 2 last NRIs, we still have 32 in camp.

I expect Jerry will be placed on the 60 and Murphy will start on the 15, RanRod, Miller, Chasey and Wisely will be optioned, Koss will be added to the 40/26 (taking Jerry’s spot).

That leave Pags as the odd man out, but I just don’t see room in the bully for him (or on the 40). Maybe they can DFA Meckler or Basabe, but that would require optioning Birdy (which I want anyway).
I do you really see the Giants optioning Miller, the only lefty in the bullpen right now?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your count but I have 30 healthy players in camp (not counting Encarnacion and Murphy). Max Stassi is still in camp but, last I heard, he is going down to Sacramento. That means 3 players still need to be sent down.
Only one needs to be a pitcher (the pitching staff is currently at 12 guaranteed - Rogers, Trivino, Verlander, Ray, Doval, Hicks, Webb, Walker, Birdsong, Bivens, Miller and Roupp) and the there are two other pitchers in camp to fit into the last bullpen spot - Rodriguez and Peguero.
My understanding is that Wisely and Koss both make it and McCray and Schmitt get sent down.
If both Peguero and Koss make the team, then, as you mentioned Encarnacion is placed on the 60 day IL and probably Basabe gets dfa'd. Koss essentially replaces him on the 40 man roster. But, yes, Meckler or even Beck or possibly Winn get dfa'd instead.
 

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I do you really see the Giants optioning Miller, the only lefty in the bullpen right now?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your count but I have 30 healthy players in camp (not counting Encarnacion and Murphy). Max Stassi is still in camp but, last I heard, he is going down to Sacramento. That means 3 players still need to be sent down.
Only one needs to be a pitcher (the pitching staff is currently at 12 guaranteed - Rogers, Trivino, Verlander, Ray, Doval, Hicks, Webb, Walker, Birdsong, Bivens, Miller and Roupp) and the there are two other pitchers in camp to fit into the last bullpen spot - Rodriguez and Peguero.
My understanding is that Wisely and Koss both make it and McCray and Schmitt get sent down.
If both Peguero and Koss make the team, then, as you mentioned Encarnacion is placed on the 60 day IL and probably Basabe gets dfa'd. Koss essentially replaces him on the 40 man roster. But, yes, Meckler or even Beck or possibly Winn get dfa'd instead.
I was stretching hard to make the numbers work with Miller. You are right, though, that that doesn’t make any sense (neither did trading Rogers, but that is a different story).

By my notes, we have 30 rostered players and 2 NRI’s. Within those 30, though, are Jerry and Murph, so that brings us down to 30.

Stassi was sent to minor league camp “officially”. While that really doesn’t mean anything, it is at least an indicator that Huff will hold down the back up catching job to start. (Bailey and Huff)

We have 5 locked slots in the infield. Hard to defend carrying 2 more. I lean towards Koss because I have heard that the team REALLY likes him, and Chasey and Wisely both have options. (Wade, Flores, Adames, Fitz, Chappy, Koss)

The OF is pretty set. The only question is if McCray and Matos both make the team or if they decide to go with a REALLY deep infield instead. (Lee, Yaz, Ramos, Matos, McCray)

The rotation has already been announced (Webb, JV, Ray, Hicks, Roupp)

That leaves 8 spots for the bully. (Walker, Doval, Rogers, Miller, Trivino, Birdsong, Bivens, Rodriguez)

That still leaves Pags on the outside, but it adds Koss. Koss can be added easily enough by putting Jerry on the 60. This also assumes Murph starts on the 10 (or is it 15 again this year?)
 

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I was stretching hard to make the numbers work with Miller. You are right, though, that that doesn’t make any sense (neither did trading Rogers, but that is a different story).

By my notes, we have 30 rostered players and 2 NRI’s. Within those 30, though, are Jerry and Murph, so that brings us down to 30.

Stassi was sent to minor league camp “officially”. While that really doesn’t mean anything, it is at least an indicator that Huff will hold down the back up catching job to start. (Bailey and Huff)

We have 5 locked slots in the infield. Hard to defend carrying 2 more. I lean towards Koss because I have heard that the team REALLY likes him, and Chasey and Wisely both have options. (Wade, Flores, Adames, Fitz, Chappy, Koss)

The OF is pretty set. The only question is if McCray and Matos both make the team or if they decide to go with a REALLY deep infield instead. (Lee, Yaz, Ramos, Matos, McCray)

The rotation has already been announced (Webb, JV, Ray, Hicks, Roupp)

That leaves 8 spots for the bully. (Walker, Doval, Rogers, Miller, Trivino, Birdsong, Bivens, Rodriguez)

That still leaves Pags on the outside, but it adds Koss. Koss can be added easily enough by putting Jerry on the 60. This also assumes Murph starts on the 10 (or is it 15 again this year?)
Might want to re-count your list. You have 29 guys listed from the 40 man roster still in camp but indicate 30.

Wisely is capable of playing the outfield (haven't followed closely enough to see if they've given him any playing time there during spring training) so if they carry him over McCray then it may be due to that versatility.

I do think Rodriguez could get sent down in favor of Peguero. The team seems intrigued by his fastball. But that does require a 40 man roster casualty so they may stash him in AAA in case of emergency.
 
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