Cowboys to let Demarco test FA

[Greg]

Such a double standard so he can fire shots ate me but when I defend my opinion with intelligent debate then I'm picking a fight that act is so tired. Ive got my but kicked by most in these forums and I learn,and I grow. What I haven't done is picked a fight are say so and so i'm going to ignore you because your opinion stinks. none of use are experts this is all conjecture and opinion. I'm so sick of online bullies.

You're preaching to the choir here. It's all just about sharing opinions, not siding with board-buddy clicks and bullying other posters with different views....that's so yesterday. Some people never mature I guess, and old habits are hard to break.

 

[PDay8810]

Murray will likely be a Colt....that's what I'm guessing. This is a huge but the right gamble IMO letting him walk. The good teams let players who aren't corner stone players/positions walk even after developing them , because the can be replace on the cheap it's a formula that the better franchise over the pass 10 years are so have used. If we land AP on a short term contract or draft Melvin we will bounce back. As long as this OL keeps Romo healthy and Dez continues to develop his route tree I think we will get production out of the RB position if the guy has even avg NFL Talent. I say draft Gordon and try abd sign a Spiller like change of pace rb on the cheap.

Opinions vary and I'll just say I disagree with the bolded...guess that makes me the bully.

 

[PDay8810]

You're preaching to the choir here. It's all just about sharing opinions, not siding with board-buddy clicks and bullying other posters with different views....that's so yesterday. Some people never mature I guess, and old habits are hard to break.

LOL...such a strong opinion for a guy wh0 just got here Thursday. Yea buddy, you remain a victim and just picked on for no good reason. You're nothing but a peach

 

[Godstree]

Sometimes the money is more important to those guys.

And I don't blame HIM, some I think some are different but this may be his last chance to get him and family set up for the rest of life. With guys who already had a big payday and shouldn't have that same need well I think that argument goes out the window at least it does in my book.

 

[snookdad]

Man we're talking in circles, Yes I said players who aren't corner stone players can be replaced. not going to apologize for that. RB is no longer a cornerstone position the way the game is played. Doesn't mean a rb can't be a corner stone player. I personally don't believe Murray is right now; sorry that offends you. Yes I think AP would be a great substitution. Yes I luv me some Dez even though he tends to find trouble. I once over valued the wr position but guys like you, and Jarnett and others have taught me to realize the value of non skill positions so my opinions have shifted a bit. I still think Dez is a key cog IMO. Me and you have from time to time bumped heads, but this i'm going to ignore you crap is childish. You irritate me some times but I don't have a problem with you. I try and respect all posters, but If I have an opinion I have the right to state it. If you want to behave like a teenage fine, but I'm cool I will continue to read your post if I like them or agree I will give you props. If I don't I hope to have fair and respectful debate. The ball is in your court but stop with the nonsense though .

 

[Greg]

And I don't blame HIM, some I think some are different but this may be his last chance to get him and family set up for the rest of life. With guys who already had a big payday and shouldn't have that same need well I think that argument goes out the window at least it does in my book.

Exactly, they are just one serious injury away, or one bad season or two, from being asked to either take a pay cut or being flat out released. Professional football is business....there are no real loyalties when you're playing this game. You simply have to get what you can when you can. It's a brutal sport.

 

[R.J. MacReady]

Maybe Murray is open to a little discount.

DeMarco Murray would return to Dallas Cowboys if offers similar - ESPN Dallas


"NFL rushing champion DeMarco Murray would likely return to the Dallas Cowboys if the team's offer is equal or financially similar to those he receives from other teams as an unrestricted free agent, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Ed Werder on Tuesday.

With quality teams potentially looking for a starting running back, Murray is expecting a "vigorous" free-agent market"

 

[jarntt]

Did you see their running game. That's why. I think Dallas of all teams pointed out that a good running game with above avg OL play can make your team matter and mask other deficiencies like an avg to below avg Defense like in our case. I think The Colts go OL heavy in the draft and go after a back like Murray no reason why they couldn't compete for a SB. As over hyped as the have Luck look he can't do it alone he needs some run support. Let me make myself Clear Luck is very good but I think we have all been quick to break out the anointing oil a bit early on him.

This is where we disagree. IMO Luck is already elite. Combine his age and there isn't a QB I take before him to start a team. I build my team around him and that is why I don't spend big dollars on a RB. They just aren't going to run the ball enough to make it worth paying a top back because of the cap. Luck is going to be a $30M per year guy in the next few years. They need to give him a defense and yes, a better RB, but not worth it to spend as much as Murray will cost because of the cap. Of course he would help and LIKEY make them a SB contender, but at what cost? I like Romo, but if he were an elite QB I wouldn't be wanting to spend the money on Murray for us either, kind of borderline as is and that's why Cowboy fans are split on whether or not we should resign him.

Now If we went down a level to say Ingram I'd agree with you

 

[snookdad]

I don't believe we really disagree that much at all. I do believe Luck will be Elite his game just needs to mature a bit more. Know to my real point I don't believe we should pay any RB more than 5M a year on a 4 year contract. I think we'd be better off drafting a new guy every four years or finding a solid but affordable back. I'm suggesting The Colts because I believe their a RB away and they have tons of cap room.

 

[jarntt]

I don't believe we really disagree that much at all. I do believe Luck will be Elite his game just needs to mature a bit more. Know to my real point I don't believe we should pay any RB more than 5M a year on a 4 year contract. I think we'd be better off drafting a new guy every four years or finding a solid but affordable back. I'm suggesting The Colts because I believe their a RB away and they have tons of cap room.

Your plan works well if you hit on your RB draft pick every 4 years, But if you don't you are in trouble. I knew our defense would be better than the year before this year, but part of the reason they were NFL average with the needle pointing up was Murray.

 

[UK Cowboy]

I listened to Stephen talking today, and while he said there are no promises, he made it sound like the Cowboys would get a chance to match Murray's top offer, not that they will if it's out of their range. I think if they can't resign Murray, they will try to add a Spiller, Ingram or Bush, and draft someone in the first couple of rounds, and end up spending less on the two than they would have on Murray if he breaks the bank

 

[TheRangerDude]

Be great if we got him back, we need to stay committed to the run. I think he will probably end up somewhere else though... hopefully not in the division. I wonder if Philly will try to land him with the trade of McCoy?

I guess Ingram would be the guy to go after in FA if we don't get him. He had a really good season with more carries and I am sure he would be great behind our line. Just don't recall him being much of a pass catcher (maybe he is) but NO always has a specialist for that- maybe we would too. I also think Spiller is a FA, he maybe worth a look I suppose.

 

[Greg]

I listened to Stephen talking today, and while he said there are no promises, he made it sound like the Cowboys would get a chance to match Murray's top offer, not that they will if it's out of their range. I think if they can't resign Murray, they will try to add a Spiller, Ingram or Bush, and draft someone in the first couple of rounds, and end up spending less on the two than they would have on Murray if he breaks the bank

I think this could all just be posturing now, and Jerry is either going to "see what he could do" to get AP, or they will bring back Murray. Just my opinion.

 

[Greg]

Be great if we got him back, we need to stay committed to the run. I think he will probably end up somewhere else though... hopefully not in the division. I wonder if Philly will try to land him with the trade of McCoy?

I guess Ingram would be the guy to go after in FA if we don't get him. He had a really good season with more carries and I am sure he would be great behind our line. Just don't recall him being much of a pass catcher (maybe he is) but NO always has a specialist for that- maybe we would too. I also think Spiller is a FA, he maybe worth a look I suppose.

And what if they're wrong?? Then you've just screwed up team chemistry and a chance to win a SB in Romo's 2-3 year window, over saving a few cap dollars. I think it's a matter of having a nice mixture of seasoned vets and young guys, and sometimes it's not just all about "being efficient" when it comes to the cap.

 

[jarntt]

It's funny how certain posters can make themselves seem more important then what the really are here, isn't it? I just try to avoid the troublemakers as much as I can now, but whenever you post something that they don't like here, they try to insult you and drag you into something.....like little kids.

Didn't you cast the first stone?

 

[jarntt]

Nope but Fried is down and all in less than 10 days...what a shock tat is.

It's not Fry. Posting style is just too different. Pretty sure that I'm right...

 

[snookdad]

Murray proved he's a good fit for this team and he masked a bunch of the teams deficiencies, I just don't want to pay him top dollar because he's a running back even though he proved he's the teams MVP this past season. So maybe we should pay him, but history shows that he's not likely to come close to doing it again next season because of the ridiculous amount of carries he had.

 

[Greg]

Murray proved he's a good fit for this team and he masked a bunch of the teams deficiencies, I just don't want to pay him top dollar because he's a running back even though he proved he's the teams MVP this past season. So maybe we should pay him, but history shows that he's not likely to come close to doing it again next season because of the ridiculous amount of carries he had.

That is also my concern. A fresh and angry AP, just sounds a lot better to me right now. Either way, it just has to be one or the other. I just don't trust unknown factors and what could be in the draft and/or FA. I can see this team extending Murray if they see the writing on the wall for AP. I think that Murray's deal would be cap friendly, as AP's would be, and that their only real option is to go with either what they already know has worked for them in the past (Murray), or with proven greatness (AP).

 

[Greg]

Didn't you cast the first stone?

Yeah, I guess i kinda did with the "taking Murray's panties out of your mouth for one moment" comment. My bad, just get's a little frustrating having to defend your posts here with certain crowds all the time.

 

[Mrhappi06]

For the record, AP now states there are 5 times he is "willing" to be traded to.