Cowboys offense

[UK Cowboy]

Dak and our receiving core reminds me of dancing with a new partner. The first dance is just so-so but after a few more tunes every things smooths out and the fun begins. This is beginning to come together and will really jell for Gallup with Amari's presence. A few more tunes and we can expect good things.

If Dak can start hitting Gallup on the deep ball, the offense will take off. Gallup is running wide open two or three times a game. When they connect on those, and have Cooper on the other side, they will start seeing more man under two deep, and Zeke will be the happiest guy in Dallas

 

[jarntt]

Our Offense: All we have to do is not make the big mistakes and we are going to score enough points to win most games. Dak needs to be better there. He can't turn the ball over or hold the ball too long. But, on the deep balls, if you hit 50% of your deep balls, that's OK. Those aren't easy throws usually. On tv they look simple because all we see is the last 10 yards when our guy is behind their guy by a couple of yards. But if you watch the overhead that shows what is happening at the exact moment the QB makes the decision to throw the ball and where to throw it, it usually isn't that cut and dry. A lot of times the separation isn't even there yet.

I for one never agreed with the idea of Dak not being accurate. I think he is very accurate and throws a lot of balls away on purpose which look like bad throws. I don't like to put things on receivers, but guys have to catch balls behind them and high or low in this league sometimes. Look at Jeffery and Ertz and all the balls they come up with on a weekly basis. If they drop them it's the QBs fault, but they are catchable. I think we are finally seeing guys make some of those catches. Gallup does it a lot and how about the catch Jarwin made last week when he was coming across the field only about 30 feet from Dak and Dak threw him a bullet that was a little behind him and he came up with the catch on the move. Another great play by Jarwin was on the hot read where the Eagles brought pressure and he just sat down in the open spot and called for the ball and Dak spotted him and got it out to him immediately for a big completion.

Lastly we need the OL play we've seen the last 2 months to continue. We need to give Dak at least a two count. We have been doing that and the results have been much better. We still have too many drive killing penalties on the OL, but hopefully with improved play that stops too because this team doesn't even try to convert 3rd and 16. Fleming filled in nicely for T Smith; Sua Filo has been a big upgrade to Williams and Looney (sans the bad snap last week) has been way better than I expected. Thank God he is under contract for next year because otherwise we would have to pay a lot more for him than we currently are. They key of course is Zack Martin being healthy. It seems he just aggravated an injury he has dealt with all year. I would consider sitting him this week and letting him try to get that knee healthy. T Smith is an enigma this year. You still see classic Smith in spurts where he just completely shuts his guy down and then he struggles. He obviously is banged up and hopefully he can be the rock on the left side that we need. I actually thought he played really well this past week other than the penalties. The running game is humming along. Just please stop with the deep handoffs on 3rd or 4th and short or inside the 5. We need to go to more of a power running game in those spots.

Regardless of what you want to say about this offense, Dak has been clutch IMO and either led us to scoring drives at the end of games or at least got us into position to score. That is always worth something to me and one of the traits I look for in a QB..

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Our Offense: All we have to do is not make the big mistakes and we are going to score enough points to win most games. Dak needs to be better there. He can't turn the ball over or hold the ball too long. But, on the deep balls, if you hit 50% of your deep balls, that's OK. Those aren't easy throws usually. On tv they look simple because all we see is the last 10 yards when our guy is behind their guy by a couple of yards. But if you watch the overhead that shows what is happening at the exact moment the QB makes the decision to throw the ball and where to throw it, it usually isn't that cut and dry. A lot of times the separation isn't even there yet.

I for one never agreed with the idea of Dak not being accurate. I think he is very accurate and throws a lot of balls away on purpose which look like bad throws. I don't like to put things on receivers, but guys have to catch balls behind them and high or low in this league sometimes. Look at Jeffery and Ertz and all the balls they come up with on a weekly basis. If they drop them it's the QBs fault, but they are catchable. I think we are finally seeing guys make some of those catches. Gallup does it a lot and how about the catch Jarwin made last week when he was coming across the field only about 30 feet from Dak and Dak threw him a bullet that was a little behind him and he came up with the catch on the move. Another great play by Jarwin was on the hot read where the Eagles brought pressure and he just sat down in the open spot and called for the ball and Dak spotted him and got it out to him immediately for a big completion.

Lastly we need the OL play we've seen the last 2 months to continue. We need to give Dak at least a two count. We have been doing that and the results have been much better. We still have too many drive killing penalties on the OL, but hopefully with improved play that stops too because this team doesn't even try to convert 3rd and 16. Fleming filled in nicely for T Smith; Sua Filo has been a big upgrade to Williams and Looney (sans the bad snap last week) has been way better than I expected. Thank God he is under contract for next year because otherwise we would have to pay a lot more for him than we currently are. They key of course is Zack Martin being healthy. It seems he just aggravated an injury he has dealt with all year. I would consider sitting him this week and letting him try to get that knee healthy. T Smith is an enigma this year. You still see classic Smith in spurts where he just completely shuts his guy down and then he struggles. He obviously is banged up and hopefully he can be the rock on the left side that we need. I actually thought he played really well this past week other than the penalties. The running game is humming along. Just please stop with the deep handoffs on 3rd or 4th and short or inside the 5. We need to go to more of a power running game in those spots.

Regardless of what you want to say about this offense, Dak has been clutch IMO and either led us to scoring drives at the end of games or at least got us into position to score. That is always worth something to me and one of the traits I look for in a QB..

Hard to keep us from scoring when we do not commit a penalty or give up a sack. Now a lot of those are and would end up being FGs. The red zone offense must improve.

 

[jarntt]

Hard to keep us from scoring when we do not commit a penalty or give up a sack. Now a lot of those are and would end up being FGs. The red zone offense must improve.

Yes, good point. From the 20 to the 10 I think we are real good. Inside the 10 and even more so inside the five we are struggling and that is big.

My preference inside the 5 is to be predictable until we stop struggling to get TDs. Run it twice and if we don't score but get to the 1 or closer, then run it again and probably twice more. It seems a couple of times we passed on first and came back and ran it on second which is just a wasted run IMO because you aren't likely running it ion from the 5 on one play and will still need to throw unless you get real close. Or we run on first, get halfway there and then throw, which again is a wasted run. My theory is you only run it if you are going to commit to the run and push it in, otherwise all you did was waste a down.

I probably didn't say that clearly. From the 5 I'd plan on getting 1 to 3 yards per rush and assume that with 3 (or 4) rushes I'm going to score. If I am not willing to commit to that I'd rather just throw it 3 times because a pass from the 5 and a pass from the 3 have the same chance to score so a two yard run from the 5 to the 3 did nothing other than use a down.

 

[Godstree]

Yes, good point. From the 20 to the 10 I think we are real good. Inside the 10 and even more so inside the five we are struggling and that is big.

My preference inside the 5 is to be predictable until we stop struggling to get TDs. Run it twice and if we don't score but get to the 1 or closer, then run it again and probably twice more. It seems a couple of times we passed on first and came back and ran it on second which is just a wasted run IMO because you aren't likely running it ion from the 5 on one play and will still need to throw unless you get real close. Or we run on first, get halfway there and then throw, which again is a wasted run. My theory is you only run it if you are going to commit to the run and push it in, otherwise all you did was waste a down.

I probably didn't say that clearly. From the 5 I'd plan on getting 1 to 3 yards per rush and assume that with 3 (or 4) rushes I'm going to score. If I am not willing to commit to that I'd rather just throw it 3 times because a pass from the 5 and a pass from the 3 have the same chance to score so a two yard run from the 5 to the 3 did nothing other than use a down.

One play that I think they would be effective inside the 10 is that shovel pass Marshal faulk used to get from Warner. Zeke is shifty enough to make positive yards with that play.

Unless they are going to use Rico for his designed purpose, I say pound the rock with smith and zeke.

 

[tomodach10]

One play that I think they would be effective inside the 10 is that shovel pass Marshal faulk used to get from Warner. Zeke is shifty enough to make positive yards with that play.

Unless they are going to use Rico for his designed purpose, I say pound the rock with smith and zeke.

What is wrong with just lining up with the full-back and run zeke up the middle from the five on first down. They seem to get pass happy inside the 10. Just stupid.

 

[jarntt]

One play that I think they would be effective inside the 10 is that shovel pass Marshal faulk used to get from Warner. Zeke is shifty enough to make positive yards with that play.

Unless they are going to use Rico for his designed purpose, I say pound the rock with smith and zeke.

Would be a nice job for Austin if he were healthy. Maybe Zeke has too many eyeballs on him for it to work because the element of surprise is lessened. I know we ran that play at least once this year for a TD, I just can't remember if it was to Zeke or Austin.

 

[jarntt]

Of course this is misleading because he has played less snaps and he has also had some big penalties, but I just read that T Smith has allowed the second lowest amount of pressures for all OTs that have played 50% or more of their teams snaps this year. Only Terron Armstead has allowed less (he missed even more time than Smith). Misleading or not it's still a good stat.

 

[Godstree]

What is wrong with just lining up with the full-back and run zeke up the middle from the five on first down. They seem to get pass happy inside the 10. Just stupid.

Inside the 10 if I am gonna pass then that is the one I would go with unless they use Rico. Other wise, pound the rock

 

[Godstree]

Would be a nice job for Austin if he were healthy. Maybe Zeke has too many eyeballs on him for it to work because the element of surprise is lessened. I know we ran that play at least once this year for a TD, I just can't remember if it was to Zeke or Austin.

Easy to forget about Tevon.........

 

[Godstree]

Of course this is misleading because he has played less snaps and he has also had some big penalties, but I just read that T Smith has allowed the second lowest amount of pressures for all OTs that have played 50% or more of their teams snaps this year. Only Terron Armstead has allowed less (he missed even more time than Smith). Misleading or not it's still a good stat.

He is a beast. When Dallas drafted him I was a big no. Only reason, usc lineman seem to be shitty in the nfl.

I was so wrong on him and hated him for the wrong reasons.

 

[Earl Stevens]

 

[Earl Stevens]

How can the coordinator recognize what they are doing pre-snap on a particular play??? The play is already called and the communication in the helmet is shut off. The QBs job is to walk up to the line and read the defense and then make decisions based on what he sees. Heck, 90% of the reason to put a guy in motion is simply to see if it's man or zone

So, what you are saying is, the offensive coordinator gives Dak the plays and just doesn’t even bother to look at the field to see what the defense is doing every play? Why did it take Amari Cooper to realize that the Eagles were sitting on stop routes all game instead of the coordinator recognizing it himself? Does Linehan just not even pay attention to what the defense is doing all game and just calls everything according to the gameplan?

 

[Earl Stevens]

 

[Earl Stevens]

 

[Earl Stevens]

And people wonder why Dak doesn’t throw it down the field more. Look at these play designs. Zero imagination. This is a damn good football team that is a good offensive coordinator away from being dominant. I’m fine with Garrett as coach, but it’s time to ditch Linehan and this scheme. It’s bad. This team should be scoring 30 points minimum with the talent they have on offense now. Beasley would be a 100 rec guy on the Pats and we barely even utilize him correctly.

 

[tomodach10]

And people wonder why Dak doesn’t throw it down the field more. Look at these play designs. Zero imagination. This is a damn good football team that is a good offensive coordinator away from being dominant. I’m fine with Garrett as coach, but it’s time to ditch Linehan and this scheme. It’s bad. This team should be scoring 30 points minimum with the talent they have on offense now. Beasley would be a 100 rec guy on the Pats and we barely even utilize him correctly.

They also need the QB to be more accurate. It is not 100% the OC's fault like you seem to always make it be.

 

[jarntt]

So, what you are saying is, the offensive coordinator gives Dak the plays and just doesn’t even bother to look at the field to see what the defense is doing every play? Why did it take Amari Cooper to realize that the Eagles were sitting on stop routes all game instead of the coordinator recognizing it himself? Does Linehan just not even pay attention to what the defense is doing all game and just calls everything according to the gameplan?

No, I'm telling you what you said was wrong. It's the QBs job when he gets to the line to look at the defense and decide what defense they are in and take that into account before he snaps the ball. No one but the QB in the building can do that.

 

[jarntt]

You just keeping blaming everything on Linehan. No one thinks he is doing a great job and I think most of us want to move on from him, but pretending it's all his fault is just not close to accurate. Any team can have plays posted where each receiver runs some type of "stop " route. At some point you stop on your route unless you are running a deep route which isn't run anywhere near every play in the NFL. Look at those pictures you posted, there is at least one guy open in every single one.

 

[Earl Stevens]

They also need the QB to be more accurate. It is not 100% the OC's fault like you seem to always make it be.

Dak completes 68% of his passes in one of the absolute worst schemes in football. You complain about the 32% he doesn't complete.