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guys i just cant see kizer , watson trubinsky or mahomes coming in here and winning 10 games as a rookie . i really cant see colt mccoy doing that either or suds
I cant see McCoy or Sudfield doing it. The other 4 you never know.
guys i just cant see kizer , watson trubinsky or mahomes coming in here and winning 10 games as a rookie . i really cant see colt mccoy doing that either or suds
You mean like we did with Champ Bailey?? If IM in Kirks position and they give me the non exclusive tag, I come back with this.... IM going where I want, or I will simply sign the tag and we can do this dance again next year.
And you are incorrect, Kirk has all the leverage. Because if the Skins try and trade his rights to a shit show like the Browns, all he need do is sign the tag offer, and refuse to show up for the new team for seven days. Trade reascended and the Skins have two options... play him at the tag price, or release him and STILL pay him.
how many rookie qbs have won 10 games ? not nearly as many who didntI cant see McCoy or Sudfield doing it. The other 4 you never know.
how many rookie qbs have won 10 games ? not nearly as many who didnt
not with the holes in our defenseFor sure. Not saying its likely. But at least we could put them in a good situation.
not with the holes in our defense
come on possible yes , do i bet my future on the likelihood of it ? no you dont pin your hopes on such a low probability of outcomeYou dont think its even possible?
For sure. Not saying its likely. But at least we could put them in a good situation.
You dont think its even possible?
Playing Devils advocate.
How exactly is a rookie QB under a coach who will likely be on the hot seat, with a new defensive Coordinator trying to improve a bottom five defense.
How is any of this putting a Rookie QB in a GOOD situation??
This is laughable. Take the money for Kirk, and since its likely we are going to remain in the 3-4,
get a Defensive line, ILB & Safety. That should get you 9 wins with a rookie at QB. 9 wins is enough to get you a wildcard beating. In 2018, baring injury, the team should have enough talent, experience and money to make a deep run in the playoffs
Wait, whats laughable?
This is laughable. Take the money for Kirk, and since its likely we are going to remain in the 3-4,
get a Defensive line, ILB & Safety. That should get you 9 wins with a rookie at QB. 9 wins is enough to get you a wildcard beating. In 2018, baring injury, the team should have enough talent, experience and money to make a deep run in the playoffs
Unless you are thinking Munusky is the guy, its going to take a year or two for a NEW DC to get his system in place. Add a bunch of new players to boot, IM finding nine wins from a rookie as a real stretch. Especially considering we are going to have the awesome task of playing some of the better defenses like NY, Seattle, Denver and Oakland.
Side note, we havent even been able to get a DC at the moment.. so are you REALLY seeing some of the premium free agents on defense sitting around going... OH HELL YES!! Redskins here i come.
I cant believe we are even debating this. If we can sign him without totally using all our cap money to me its a no brainer. Having no QB why this team has been so bad for along time because of chasing for a QB. Therefore this deal will get done.
I think we could mirror what dallas did.
how many rookie qbs have won 10 games ? not nearly as many who didnt
Since 1966 there have been 749 QBs drafted. 1 out of every 53.5 drafted QBs.I saw something on Dax Prescott that said in the SB era 1966 to the present, 14 rookie QBs have won 9 or more games their rookie season. The thing though that makes Prescott somewhat unique is how low he was drafted. Making his accomplishments this year that much more rare.
Again, there is the skewed thinking.
Dallas did what they did sure by bringing in a rookie QB and RB.
What you miss is that Dallas also did it with e defensive scheme that they have been working on for FOUR years and finally got it right. You do realize Dallas had a top five over all defense, and top TWO in rushing defense?? Not to take away from what Dak and Zeke did, but give Dallas our defense and thats a 6-8 win team.
And logic would suggest a new DC with new players at key positions is not going to sniff top five defense realm. I get it, there are $125M or more reasons not to resign Kirk. But I will trump that with this
2016 Kirk Cousins (16)
2015 Kirk Cousins (16)
2014 Robert Griffin III (7) / Kirk Cousins (5) / Colt McCoy (4)
2013 Robert Griffin III (13) / Kirk Cousins (3)
2012 Robert Griffin III (15) / Kirk Cousins (1)
2011 Rex Grossman (13) / John Beck (3)
2010 Donovan McNabb (13) / Rex Grossman (3)
2009 Jason Campbell (16)
2008 Jason Campbell (16)
2007 Jason Campbell (13) / Todd Collins (3)
2006 Mark Brunell (9) / Jason Campbell (7)
2005 Mark Brunell (15) / Patrick Ramsey (1)
2004 Mark Brunell (9) / Patrick Ramsey (7)
2003 Patrick Ramsey (11) / Tim Hasselbeck (5)
2002 Shane Matthews (7) / Patrick Ramsey (5) / Danny Wuerffel (4)
2001 Tony Banks (14) / Jeff George (2)
2000 Brad Johnson (11) / Jeff George (5)
1999 Brad Johnson (16)
1998 Trent Green (14) / Gus Frerotte (2)
1997 Gus Frerotte (13) / Jeff Hostetler (3)
1996 Gus Frerotte (16)
1995 Gus Frerotte (11) / Heath Shuler (5)
1994 Heath Shuler (8) / John Friesz (4) / Gus Frerotte (4)
Of that list name me 3 you would keep over Kirk. I will even spot you Brad Johnson. So name me two QBs other than Kirk or Brad in the last 22 years who were good as or better.
Now we can play the we might strike gold with a Rookie QB all day. BUt for the most part we have been playing that game for 22 years... where has it gotten us??