commanders off season thread 2023

[duke1861]

The cap is an excuse , the money will be there

I hope so.

Or else we need to hire the Golden St. Warriors finance guy. They have a team of All-Stars and are "under" the cap...LOL

 

[Stymietee]

nonsense. rookies are played right away in todays nfl. RR comment of "he wasnt ready" was bullshit. We gain nothing by TH playing. If Howell imploded after 2 games than you could have gotten him out of there. Why draft Howell? Why trade for CW?

No sir, Highly touted rookies start right away not 5th-round draft picks! Rivera said publicly that "Howell wasn't ready" leaving the team with ONLY one option... Heinicke!

They traded Howell in order to coach him up, develop him, and eventually give him a CHANCE to start.

They traded for CW because they didn't know what the hell they were doing, and it was all so predictable... Oh wait I did exactly that!

 

[Stymietee]

you're playing Monday morning qb now. I understood why we acquired CW. I didn't like the trade compensation, but I understood why we got him. I thought it was anybody but TH, with acquiring CW and drafting Howell. It just made the move to TH really puzzling to me.

Monday morning QB huh? Well, let me introduce you to someone who will back me up and prove that everything that I'm saying now, I said before Wince ever took a snap for the team. I think that you'll be absolutely convinced by his testimony...

 

[Stymietee]

you're playing Monday morning qb now. I understood why we acquired CW. I didn't like the trade compensation, but I understood why we got him. I thought it was anybody but TH, with acquiring CW and drafting Howell. It just made the move to TH really puzzling to me.

Oh and there's one more thing, I was not alone!

 

[Stymietee]

Good to have you back brother.

Common sense is not that common.

Thank you for bringing common sense here.

Thanks, it's good to be back, and when it comes to common sense if you were here in my absence common sense didn't disappear!

 

[Stymietee]

Well Dean will disagree here.

He specifically said we found our qb after week 1 and said that turner simply needed a strong arm qb. He said the trade could be one of the best in recent history.
When presented with data and facts, he got mad and told me to get off the board.

Dean has admitted he was wrong but still continues to defend wentz in a way and bashes TH.

I've responded to his threads and provided him with evidence that even he can't refute!

 

[Stymietee]

Hey wait we have Jake Fromme on the futures contract roster

Jake??? Jake Fromme State Farm?

 

[Stymietee]

No sir, Highly touted rookies start right away not 5th-round draft picks! Rivera said publicly that "Howell wasn't ready" leaving the team with ONLY one option... Heinicke!

They traded Howell in order to coach him up, develop him, and eventually give him a CHANCE to start.

They traded for CW because they didn't know what the hell they were doing, and it was all so predictable... Oh wait I did exactly that!

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Oops Drafted Howell.

 

[kbso83432]

Should we be concerned that Payne had his breakout year in a contract year? I want Payne back, but im just asking.

 

[Sportster 72]

Not just Daron, funny how guys career on a contract year.

 

[Stymietee]

Should we be concerned that Payne had his breakout year in a contract year? I want Payne back, but im just asking.

No!
Why should Washington and its fans be concerned over something that happens every year on every team without exception? I get what you're asking but why focus on his motivation, when he's demonstrated what he's capable of? The concern must be over how best to keep him and in that vein, I suggest formulating a contract, that not only pays him but offers enough incentives to keep him motivated.

 

[deanpet21]

No sir, Highly touted rookies start right away not 5th-round draft picks! Rivera said publicly that "Howell wasn't ready" leaving the team with ONLY one option... Heinicke!

They traded Howell in order to coach him up, develop him, and eventually give him a CHANCE to start.

They traded for CW because they didn't know what the hell they were doing, and it was all so predictable... Oh wait I did exactly that!

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Explain Brock Purdy mister irrelevant.

 

[deanpet21]

Monday morning QB huh? Well, let me introduce you to someone who will back me up and prove that everything that I'm saying now, I said before Wince ever took a snap for the team. I think that you'll be absolutely convinced by his testimony...


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no doubt I wanted CW from last offseason. Im not denying that.

 

[deanpet21]

Oh and there's one more thing, I was not alone!

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no one is disputing this. Im saying we sholud of went to Howell after the CW injury.

 

[duke1861]

Explain Brock Purdy mister irrelevant.

Easy
He has one of the best offensive minds in the game coaching and developing him.

Do you honestly think Scott Turner was going to develop howell and put him in the best place to succeed?

You yourself even admitted turner suxed, now you are claiming turner had howell ready? Which one is it?

Purdy has an excellent offensive coach and play caller. Howell did not.
It is very simple actually.

 

[duke1861]

no doubt I wanted CW from last offseason. Im not denying that.

We tried to tell you it wasn't going to work. Wentz is awful and was mildly successful in indy because of frank Reich and Jonathan Taylor. In the end, he still choked with the season on the line. He wasn't going to have Reich or Taylor in Washington.
Not sure why you didn't see that.

 

[deanpet21]

Easy
He has one of the best offensive minds in the game coaching and developing him.

Do you honestly think Scott Turner was going to develop howell and put him in the best place to succeed?

You yourself even admitted turner suxed, now you are claiming turner had howell ready? Which one is it?

Purdy has an excellent offensive coach and play caller. Howell did not.
It is very simple actually.

point being a 7th round rookie was thrown into the starting role. Why couldnt Howell?

 

[duke1861]

point being a 7th round rookie was thrown into the starting role. Why couldnt Howell?

Dean, I just told you in the post. Let me break it down.
Comparing Purdy and Howell is silly for several reasons.

1. Purdy has the best coach in the NFL and one of the best offensive minds calling plays.
Howell does not

2. Purdy has a superior OLine
Howell does not

3. Purdy has one of the best TE in the game
Howell does not

4. Purdy is operating with a top 5 offense in the NFL
Howell does not (WSH was 25th)

The 49ers have more talent on the field and coaching on the sidelines than Howell does. I know you don't like saying anything negative about WSH, but those are the facts.

You have to look at the big picture here Dean and not be tunnel-visioned like you do. You are still attacking TH and claiming Howell should have started after the CHI game. Howell was not in a position to succeed at that time.

Same with the Wentz arguement. You simply thought Wentz would repeat his up and down year in INDY here in WSH. It was a completely different situation and you never admitted that. Try looking at the big picture instead of just arguing a point over and over again.

 

[deanpet21]

Dean, I just told you in the post. Let me break it down.
Comparing Purdy and Howell is silly for several reasons.

1. Purdy has the best coach in the NFL and one of the best offensive minds calling plays.
Howell does not

2. Purdy has a superior OLine
Howell does not

3. Purdy has one of the best TE in the game
Howell does not

4. Purdy is operating with a top 5 offense in the NFL
Howell does not (WSH was 25th)

The 49ers have more talent on the field and coaching on the sidelines than Howell does. I know you don't like saying anything negative about WSH, but those are the facts.

You have to look at the big picture here Dean and not be tunnel-visioned like you do. You are still attacking TH and claiming Howell should have started after the CHI game. Howell was not in a position to succeed at that time.

Same with the Wentz arguement. You simply thought Wentz would repeat his up and down year in INDY here in WSH. It was a completely different situation and you never admitted that. Try looking at the big picture instead of just arguing a point over and over again.

Big picture? The big picture was to play the future in Howell, not the past in TH. The team knew what they had in TH and overpaid of a vet and drafted a qb b/c of it. I realize the 49ers are a better team, but Howell deserved a shot at that time.

 

[Stymietee]

Explain Brock Purdy mister irrelevant.

Injuries to both Lance and Jimmy G forced their hand. Easy explanation!