Commanders News thread

[deanpet21]

your memory is horrible , he was injured , no way i take him in round one

you and others loved his upside. there were posters who wanted Williams on here. I could be wrong about you, but others wanted him. Go search it

 

[kbso83432]

No Joey Porter Jr.

 

[skinsdad62]

you and others loved his upside. there were posters who wanted Williams on here. I could be wrong about you, but others wanted him. Go search it

Sty yes me no not in round one

 

[skinsdad62]

No Joey Porter Jr.
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I wouldn’t rule him out

 

[deanpet21]

No Joey Porter Jr.
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im kind of shocked at that. He also said no Kincaid in an earlier podcast.

 

[kbso83432]

im kind of shocked at that. He also said no Kincaid in an earlier podcast.

I know. Kincaid isn't a 2-way TE and I've heard from many that Porter Jr. can't play zone and is a WJ3 clone. Maybe it's about fit or maybe the Skins are wrong. Lol

For the record I like Porter Jr.

 

[Sportster 72]

I know. Kincaid isn't a 2-way TE and I've heard from many that Porter Jr. can't play zone and is a WJ3 clone. Maybe it's about fit or maybe the Skins are wrong. Lol

For the record I like Porter Jr.

One of the things that happens as the draft nears is a lot of so called experts give opinions of players without knowing a lot about the player.

As a Penn State fan I am going to standup for Joey whether Washington drafts him or not. I watch EVERY Penn State game. It is how I knew Jahan Dotson would be good if size wasn't an issue. I have watched Joey for several years now. I believe he can be a good corner in the NFL. So he has played under two different DC's the past couple of years. Under Brent Pry he played a fair amount of zone. Under Manny Diaz (last year) he played mostly man. Manny brings pressure from all angles ... LBer, Safeties etc. So the corners have to play man.

Part two, lets discuss zone because most do not know what zone defense is supposed to do. It allows completions. The idea it to rally up and keep the gains short. No long plays ... when it is done well it can be successful but when it isn't bombs away. Zone defense is the two minute defense. Just saying.

Washington has been playing zone match under JDR. I am not going into a 6 paragraph explanation but depending on what happens a guy who has a zone may leave it to defend a guy who runs through his zone. In other words a modified zone or modified man defense. In theory and my opinion it can be very effective. Last year, with Curl and Forrest at safety they played it well, same for Fuller and BSJ after the first few weeks. It requires a lot of understanding of the defense and communication.

Final analysis, if JDR doesn't think Joey can play his defense then pass on him. I do think 16th round or nearby is correct. I am not familiar with Gonzalez or Witherspoon who many people like. So I am reserving opinion. Kelee Ringo sounds interesting but he is not ready to step in and play the defense under JDR now. Again, my opinion. I love his size and speed. The Brents kid from KSU intrigues me but I don't know enough.

 

[kbso83432]

One of the things that happens as the draft nears is a lot of so called experts give opinions of players without knowing a lot about the player.

As a Penn State fan I am going to standup for Joey whether Washington drafts him or not. I watch EVERY Penn State game. It is how I knew Jahan Dotson would be good if size wasn't an issue. I have watched Joey for several years now. I believe he can be a good corner in the NFL. So he has played under two different DC's the past couple of years. Under Brent Pry he played a fair amount of zone. Under Manny Diaz (last year) he played mostly man. Manny brings pressure from all angles ... LBer, Safeties etc. So the corners have to play man.

Part two, lets discuss zone because most do not know what zone defense is supposed to do. It allows completions. The idea it to rally up and keep the gains short. No long plays ... when it is done well it can be successful but when it isn't bombs away. Zone defense is the two minute defense. Just saying.

Washington has been playing zone match under JDR. I am not going into a 6 paragraph explanation but depending on what happens a guy who has a zone may leave it to defend a guy who runs through his zone. In other words a modified zone or modified man defense. In theory and my opinion it can be very effective. Last year, with Curl and Forrest at safety they played it well, same for Fuller and BSJ after the first few weeks. It requires a lot of understanding of the defense and communication.

Final analysis, if JDR doesn't think Joey can play his defense then pass on him. I do think 16th round or nearby is correct. I am not familiar with Gonzalez or Witherspoon who many people like. So I am reserving opinion. Kelee Ringo sounds interesting but he is not ready to step in and play the defense under JDR now. Again, my opinion. I love his size and speed. The Brents kid from KSU intrigues me but I don't know enough.

Thanks for that @Sportster72! I also heard the Skins didn't bring Jahan in for a visit because they were trying to disguise the fact that they really wanted him. We all know this is lying season in terms of football.

Maybe the Skins are trying to do the same with Porter Jr. JP and Keim both have said they want to trade down. Mayhew basically said that as well. Could be Porter Jr. is the target.

Long arms, played in a good conference and saw first had what it takes to be a pro. I think there is a good chance he's there at 16.

My fear is Porter Jr. is gonna be a real good pro but we pass on him based on fit, only for Ron and JDR to get run outta town a once the year is over.

 

[deanpet21]

I know. Kincaid isn't a 2-way TE and I've heard from many that Porter Jr. can't play zone and is a WJ3 clone. Maybe it's about fit or maybe the Skins are wrong. Lol

For the record I like Porter Jr.

It should always be about fit. Porter looks like a good prospect. He is BSJ but a better athlete.

 

[Sportster 72]

I would be fine with a trade back in the draft.

 

[kbso83432]

I would be fine with a trade back in the draft.

It would depend for me.

 

[skinsdad62]

if a witherspoon is on the board i probably draft him, a paris johnson i would draft him , but to be honest trading back can get us a good haul of prospects

 

[skinsdad62]

one take

 

[skinsdad62]

exactly why i dont want to spend a 16th overall to replace mccain when we have the guy right here

 

[skinsdad62]

sorry

 

[skinsdad62]

Ranking 5 best draft picks of Ron Rivera’s tenure with Commanders

Which players have shown their worth as the best NFL Draft picks from Ron Rivera's tenure with the Washington Commanders so far?

riggosrag.com

no CY here and thats bad . i dont know how davis is on the list but not payne

 

[kbso83432]

Keim said on his latest pod that if the Skins trade down and are able to grab another pick, Hooker @47 is a possibility.

 

[skinsdad62]

Keim said on his latest pod that if the Skins trade down and are able to grab another pick, Hooker @47 is a possibility.

hooker at 47 is too rich for me

 

[deanpet21]

Keim said on his latest pod that if the Skins trade down and are able to grab another pick, Hooker @47 is a possibility.

there is alot of buzz Hooker is going 1st round.

 

[Rowdy]

Ranking 5 best draft picks of Ron Rivera’s tenure with Commanders

Which players have shown their worth as the best NFL Draft picks from Ron Rivera's tenure with the Washington Commanders so far?

riggosrag.com

no CY here and thats bad . i dont know how davis is on the list but not payne

Don’t think payne was rr