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You seem to get wrapped around the axle going down a one say street. Gates was not brought here just to be the backup plan to Roullier. He came to be a part of the OL and he has the capability of being a guard. Center is more of a need than LT and arguably guard. Leno is not as bad as you and others seem to think and center is more important than guard.

DT should be the only position off the board. S is second most secure position on the team; however, an upgrade is possible. DE is a position we may need to improve. Sweat and Chase are both coming up in the next two seasons. I doubt we keep both. WR is a dark horse option. Outside of TM, we aren’t proven. I am not saying 16 would be wise but you never know.

I understand gates was brought here b/c he has position flexibility. He is a great insurance policy for Roullier and also can play OG. I never said Leno is bad but I can see us taking a LT at 16 if one of the top 3 fall. As far as this year is concerned center is not a need if Roullier is 100%. I dont think DE and WR is a need this year. Samuel isnt a bad WR. The jury is still out on Brown. Dotson played well as a rookie. If he played a full year, he could have gotten OROY over Wilson.
 

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JMS at #16? oh c'mon now.
i said round 1 , read please . didnt say 16 . and i will add this not long ago we spent a whole off season about drafting a OG in round 5 turns out that OG was a perennial pro bowl player and all pro and upon HIS departure the o/line turned to urine

so drafting a center in round 1 wouldnt come close to upsetting me especially because he will have a great career . i also see torrence at OG or jones at LT

i dont LB is as important as center because we run a 4-2-5 and LBs are being phased out . i dont see TE above ctr because i like our young guys and i believe we can get a good TE later
 

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i said round 1 , read please . didnt say 16 . and i will add this not long ago we spent a whole off season about drafting a OG in round 5 turns out that OG was a perennial pro bowl player and all pro and upon HIS departure the o/line turned to urine

so drafting a center in round 1 wouldnt come close to upsetting me especially because he will have a great career . i also see torrence at OG or jones at LT

i dont LB is as important as center because we run a 4-2-5 and LBs are being phased out . i dont see TE above ctr because i like our young guys and i believe we can get a good TE later
If Broderick Jones is there at 16 you run to the podium with the pick
 

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I understand gates was brought here b/c he has position flexibility. He is a great insurance policy for Roullier and also can play OG. I never said Leno is bad but I can see us taking a LT at 16 if one of the top 3 fall. As far as this year is concerned center is not a need if Roullier is 100%. I dont think DE and WR is a need this year. Samuel isnt a bad WR. The jury is still out on Brown. Dotson played well as a rookie. If he played a full year, he could have gotten OROY over Wilson.

You said C was not as big of a need as the other positions you noted. I wouldn’t be surprised, nor disappointed, if we took a LT at 16 if the player warrants it.

C is as much a need as any other position, regardless of Roullier’s health.

You speak about this year but that pigeonholes you. Get the better player even if the position isn’t as immediately needy. Samuel isn’t bad but this is his final year here. Dotson did well but is still unproven. Brown is complete ass.
 

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i said round 1 , read please . didnt say 16 . and i will add this not long ago we spent a whole off season about drafting a OG in round 5 turns out that OG was a perennial pro bowl player and all pro and upon HIS departure the o/line turned to urine

so drafting a center in round 1 wouldnt come close to upsetting me especially because he will have a great career . i also see torrence at OG or jones at LT

i dont LB is as important as center because we run a 4-2-5 and LBs are being phased out . i dont see TE above ctr because i like our young guys and i believe we can get a good TE later

you are forecasting a trade down. We dont know if that will happen. Im saying what will happen at 16.
 

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You said C was not as big of a need as the other positions you noted. I wouldn’t be surprised, nor disappointed, if we took a LT at 16 if the player warrants it.

C is as much a need as any other position, regardless of Roullier’s health.

You speak about this year but that pigeonholes you. Get the better player even if the position isn’t as immediately needy. Samuel isn’t bad but this is his final year here. Dotson did well but is still unproven. Brown is complete ass.

its not a huge need b/c of the players already on the roster. We have better players at center right now than TE, Cb, and LG. Matter of fact Roullier and Gates are a strength at center right now. TE, CB, and LG are clear weakness on this team right now. BPA at a position of need.

agree to disagree that center is as huge need over Te, Cb, and LG.
 

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its not a huge need b/c of the players already on the roster. We have better players at center right now than TE, Cb, and LG. Matter of fact Roullier and Gates are a strength at center right now. TE, CB, and LG are clear weakness on this team right now. BPA at a position of need.

agree to disagree that center is as huge need over Te, Cb, and LG.

There isn’t a huge need on the entire team.

CB is probably the biggest need we have on the team, followed by TE (but it is an overrated position), then it is equal parts OL. We have plenty of decent options at LG. Roullier and Gates are not a strength right now. Roullier is a question mark and Gates wasn’t a center last season for the NYG.
 

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Absolutely stunned Washington is happy rolling with Howell and Brissett.....they been looking for a QB since Cousins.

Action Jackson makes a whole lot of sense. Especially, since they brought in Bienemy.
 

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There isn’t a huge need on the entire team.

CB is probably the biggest need we have on the team, followed by TE (but it is an overrated position), then it is equal parts OL. We have plenty of decent options at LG. Roullier and Gates are not a strength right now. Roullier is a question mark and Gates wasn’t a center last season for the NYG.
I think biggest need is a franchise QB.

We simply don't know if Howell is, and until then, we need one of those.

We know Brissett isn't. Like I said, Rivera is doubling down on "the unknown" this year.
 

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Commanders will not pursue QB Lamar Jackson.​


Speaking Monday, Commanders General Manager Martin Mayhew clearly stated the team will not pursue quarterback Lamar Jackson. He ended his response to questions surrounding the enigmatic quarterback saying, "For us right now, we're moving forward with Sam (Howell) and Jacoby (Brissett).” It seems every quarterback-needy team is going to be asked the same question after Jackson publicly announced that he had requested a trade early Monday morning.

Source: Ralph Vacchiano on Twitter

Mar 27, 2023, 6:11 PM ET
Absolutely stunned Washington is happy rolling with Howell and Brissett.....they been looking for a QB since Cousins.

Action Jackson makes a whole lot of sense. Especially, since they brought in Bienemy.

I think biggest need is a franchise QB.

We simply don't know if Howell is, and until then, we need one of those.

We know Brissett isn't. Like I said, Rivera is doubling down on "the unknown" this year.
This is a very tough call to make considering the seeming consensus here that they must give Sam Howell a chance. Giving him a chance isn't the tough part though, that happens when they essentially tell 52 other players that given the choice between giving Howell that opportunity and passing up a chance at getting a guy who instantly puts their odds to win division and conference titles front and center is the tough part.
 

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Honestly, RR and Mayhew should be fired just for making the statement they want a 2:1 ratio.
I wonder if this statement is akin to the one in which he blurted out "Quarterback!" as the difference between his and other teams.

Perhaps it is a hidden admission that there's going to be a lot less reliance on Howell, after all, what's left of his entire head coaching career rides on how well Howell performs.
 

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This is a very tough call to make considering the seeming consensus here that they must give Sam Howell a chance. Giving him a chance isn't the tough part though, that happens when they essentially tell 52 other players that given the choice between giving Howell that opportunity and passing up a chance at getting a guy who instantly puts their odds to win division and conference titles front and center is the tough part.
It falls on Rivera ultimately.

He has only acquired and developed 1 QB in 12 years as a HC.

The more I think about it, the more I think the new owner should dismiss Rivera as soon as possible. We simply cannot allow him to continue to drive the organization further in the ground. We are getting left in the dust in the division and Rivera's master plan is to start an unproven Sam Howell?

If the sale is final after the draft, I would start cleaning house ASAP. Unless Sean Payton was lying, prospective owners might be willing to do just that. If Payton was contacted by multiple prospective buyers, then it is obviously on somebody's mind to dismiss Rivera quickly after the purchase.

I am not interested in seeing Rivera coach this team one more game.
 

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I agree it is soooo frustrating to see PHI, DAL & NY makes notable improvements, while the redskins seem to consider .500 better than winning a superbowl
 

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You can't fire and hire a coaching staff in May but I do think most of the scouts and Front Office Guys will be let go after the draft time line would be around late May and June ..But I'm sure Harris has talked to ex coaches etc etc .. and for the Record I bet our next HC will be E.B or a Collage Coach
 

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There isn’t a huge need on the entire team.

CB is probably the biggest need we have on the team, followed by TE (but it is an overrated position), then it is equal parts OL. We have plenty of decent options at LG. Roullier and Gates are not a strength right now. Roullier is a question mark and Gates wasn’t a center last season for the NYG.

If 100% healthily Roullier and Gates are a strength at center. Who are the decent options at LG? Norwell, Charles, and Paul? Paul is still unknown but the other two are below average. If you are thinking Gates will play LG, then yes that could be decent but it's not a strength. TE is an overrated position? cmon now. Very possible TE could be the pick at #16.
 

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I think biggest need is a franchise QB.

We simply don't know if Howell is, and until then, we need one of those.

We know Brissett isn't. Like I said, Rivera is doubling down on "the unknown" this year.

I agree we need a franchise QB. I agree we don’t know if Howell is but we need to find out. There is no QB in this class that screams he is better than Howell. CJ Stroud is the best QB of this bunch, while Bryce Young comes in second. Richardson is an athletic freak but he has little chance of success and Will Levis is third in likelihood of success.

Brissett is far better than the league gives him credit for. He is not a franchise guy but he is better than a backup.
 

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I wonder if this statement is akin to the one in which he blurted out "Quarterback!" as the difference between his and other teams.

Perhaps it is a hidden admission that there's going to be a lot less reliance on Howell, after all, what's left of his entire head coaching career rides on how well Howell performs.

I hope the plan is to rely less on Howell. 50/50 would be reasonable for a plan.
 

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It falls on Rivera ultimately.

He has only acquired and developed 1 QB in 12 years as a HC.

The more I think about it, the more I think the new owner should dismiss Rivera as soon as possible. We simply cannot allow him to continue to drive the organization further in the ground. We are getting left in the dust in the division and Rivera's master plan is to start an unproven Sam Howell?

If the sale is final after the draft, I would start cleaning house ASAP. Unless Sean Payton was lying, prospective owners might be willing to do just that. If Payton was contacted by multiple prospective buyers, then it is obviously on somebody's mind to dismiss Rivera quickly after the purchase.

I am not interested in seeing Rivera coach this team one more game.

Depends on when the new ownership takes over. If they take over after OTAs have begun, then they should not fire RR.
 

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If 100% healthily Roullier and Gates are a strength at center. Who are the decent options at LG? Norwell, Charles, and Paul? Paul is still unknown but the other two are below average. If you are thinking Gates will play LG, then yes that could be decent but it's not a strength. TE is an overrated position? cmon now. Very possible TE could be the pick at #16.

Roullier can’t be relied upon to remain healthy.

Gates and Paul are the options at LG. Gates played G last season for the NYG.

Yes…TE is overrated. Kielce had 1338 yards. The next TE was Hockenson at 914 yards, then Andrews at 847. Top five TEs are getting about 750 yards…so yes it is an overrated position. If you have a dominant one though, it is a great mismatch…that is why I am not opposed to one at 16 if he is good enough. That being said, the position is overrated.
 
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