Comedy BRONZE in Vancouver - the Bieksa files

[jstewismybastardson]

 

[mattola]

What a gong show.

Frank the "36 year old that looks 57" Tank Seravalli

said that the Canucks are the most dysfunctional team in pro sports, and I agreed with him

 

[dash]

Rick Tocchet's agent Steve Mountain is on Donnie and Dhali as I type...

 

[dash]

His agent confirms that the Canucks stepped up with a very generous offer.

 

[mattola]

His agent confirms that the Canucks stepped up with a very generous offer.

I will watch it later but it doesnt matter if he tells us the whole reason or not

I think it boils down to

1 - This team has NO direction from the top so why waste his time for money that he can get elsewhere
2 - He knows that EP40 is no longer coachable and does not want to be stuck with that.

my nephew blames him for EP40 play now. I do not believe that to be true.

 

[dash]

Steve Mountain is also the agent for Adam Foote and says his status with the Canucks is TBD.

 

[forty_three]

my nephew blames him for EP40 play now. I do not believe that to be true.

I mean, Petey was a pretty solid player before so there might be something to it. Not all coaches' fault as player does have responsibility. But not liking a boss can affect performance. Maybe JT was a flaming asshole and Tocc did nothing or laughed it off.

One thing is for sure, Petey HAS to recognize how it looks and bounce back no matter who the coach is.

 

[mattola]

I mean, Petey was a pretty solid player before so there might be something to it. Not all coaches' fault as player does have responsibility. But not liking a boss can affect performance. Maybe JT was a flaming asshole and Tocc did nothing or laughed it off.

One thing is for sure, Petey HAS to recognize how it looks and bounce back no matter who the coach is.

I do not think it comes down to skill for Petey. I think its preparation and conditioning. Both that he failed on this last off season (injury or not as it sounds like he did not fully report his injury to the Canucks who I think could have helped him train differently). I want to agree that he would learn from it but do we want to take chance on that with a NTC on a $11.6M cap hit.

I do not know and glad I am not the one that makes that decision.

 

[mattola]

this sums up my thoughts

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I somehow get the feeling he doesnt want to coach the 11.6 shmill guy anymore

I will watch it later but it doesnt matter if he tells us the whole reason or not

I think it boils down to

1 - This team has NO direction from the top so why waste his time for money that he can get elsewhere
2 - He knows that EP40 is no longer coachable and does not want to be stuck with that.

my nephew blames him for EP40 play now. I do not believe that to be true.

I think on point 2, Tocchet knew since day one when he joined the Canucks that this was possibly the case about Petey ... that Petey is a potential coach killer. He is afterall Operation Slapshot buddies with Travis Green and there has always been word on Canucks twitter and reddit that Green feels EP40s effort/performance in his final year coaching the Canucks cost him his job. Green and Tocchet had similar systems.

I dont think Tocchets system this season prevented him from scoring. Petey fell behind the 8 ball showing up to camp without a proper training program in the summer behind him. I (choose to lol) believe the knee issue was the cause of that. One thing is for sure, with all the public emphasis now on putting together an offseason training program for Petey, if they keep him ... the pressure will be huge on him to perform to start next season. Especially when many will see him a main cause of all of this seasons turmoil ... if he doesnt figure it out he's well on his way to killing this current formulation of the franchise

 

[mattola]

Not to hijack this thread and I'm just a dummy behind a keyboard, but maybe tearing it down to the studs and hoping to win the draft lottery next season isn't such a bad plan?

@dash I think you have to give it one last shot to keep Quinn though. I honestly would rather have him long term than McKenna as Hughes really is generational.. If the off season is shit and we have a terrible start to the year I would be more than open to trading everyone and starting from scratch. That being said it doesn't matter on anything they do as long as this ownership is the way it is we will never win a cup

 

[jstewismybastardson]

@dash I think you have to give it one last shot to keep Quinn though. I honestly would rather have him long term than McKenna as Hughes really is generational.. If the off season is shit and we have a terrible start to the year I would be more than open to trading everyone and starting from scratch. That being said it doesn't matter on anything they do as long as this ownership is the way it is we will never win a cup

yah Ive been for a teardown for years ... its not happening with this ownership in place ... it would be something if they say we're rebuilding NOW ... after they raised season ticket prices for next season by upwards of 20%

 

[jstewismybastardson]

speaking of ownership ... this rumo(u)red move by Papa Luigi reminds me of when my dad got sick of me throwing darts into the basement rec room wall where the Wayne Gretzky poster was hanging so he took my darts away and left the dart board hanging up.

 

[dash]

Who the hell is Mike Vellucci? Oh, Penguins assistant coach, that tracks.

 

[mattola]

Who the hell is Mike Vellucci? Oh, Penguins assistant coach, that tracks.

Mike Vellucci is serving as an assistant coach for the U.S. Men's National Team

what are you hearing @dash

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Mike Vellucci is serving as an assistant coach for the U.S. Men's National Team

what are you hearing @dash

potential coach or assistant coach candidate

 

[mattola]

potential coach or assistant coach candidate

you ever going to change this lol

 

[jstewismybastardson]

you ever going to change this lol

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why would i ???? Michael Buble eats corn the long way!

 

[dash]

Strong wording...

 

[mattola]

Strong wording...

Petey - Yes
Tocchett was not under contract anymore. so no...
Torts is a quitter