Colorado's new HC wants the PAC-12 to pussify their scheduling

[AlaskaGuy]

Your "mathematical fact" assumes that OOC games are wins. Otherwise it's a wash.

You want the SEC teams (who already have the highest SOSs) to play 13 regular season games... along with all in-state teams, and make sure they all have some cross-country OOC P5 teams too.

Because a 20 game season for just the SEC teams, makes it 'fair' for PAC teams.

Personally, I'd love that long season. If it ever happens though, it's a completely new league. Above the BCS.

My mathematical fact is just that ... a mathematical fact. It's the reason those two conferences refuse to play their own conference members not to mention those two conferences play less P5 opponents on average compared to the other three P5 conferences.

 

[Deep Creek]

Attendance Rankings: Five-Year Average

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/Attendance/2017.pdf

NCAA Statistics

#85....at least we ain't dead last in sumpin'! But 24,000 ain't even half of Sun Bowl capacity.

If we'd win more than 2 games a year our attendance might double!

 

[7Samurai13]

My mathematical fact is just that ... a mathematical fact. It's the reason those two conferences refuse to play their own conference members not to mention those two conferences play less P5 opponents on average compared to the other three P5 conferences.

Again, since you are slow here. Yes it would result in more losses but it is unclear how many more losses it would become. If Georgia beats GTech but loses to Notre Dame then it wouldn’t be an additional loss to the conference because they more than likely wouldn’t have played ND.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Again, since you are slow here. Yes it would result in more losses but it is unclear how many more losses it would become. If Georgia beats GTech but loses to Notre Dame then it wouldn’t be an additional loss to the conference because they more than likely wouldn’t have played ND.

 

[Gatorchip]

My mathematical fact is just that ... a mathematical fact. It's the reason those two conferences refuse to play their own conference members not to mention those two conferences play less P5 opponents on average compared to the other three P5 conferences.

Its only one piece of the puzzle in your attempt to justify the PAC soft schedule. And using your same logic, scheduling a PAC team will result in lowering the SOS for SEC teams... Completely destroying your argument.

Your thought process sucks.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Its only one piece of the puzzle in your attempt to justify the PAC soft schedule. And using your same logic, scheduling a PAC team will result in lowering the SOS for SEC teams... Completely destroying your argument.

Your thought process sucks.

I love it when people try to justify why the ACC & SEC lack the testicles to play their own conference members while playing less P5 opponents on average compared to the other three P5 conferences.

 

[Rolltide94]

How does any of that explain that southern teams lack the testosterone to play their own conference members.

We don't play our own conference members because we are not trying to make our schedule harder...when Washington is one of the "better" teams in the Pac and you haven't beaten a ranked P5 opponent in 17 years and 9 months, I think you should probably start going to 10 conference games...that way you can only lose half those games.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

We don't play our own conference members because we lack testosterone ...when Washington is one of the "better" teams in the Pac and you haven't beaten a ranked P5 opponent in 17 years and 9 months, I think you should probably start going to 10 conference games...that way you can only lose half those games.

 

[Rolltide94]

It's a mathematical fact that a conference that actually plays their conference members is going to rack up more losses (9 game conference schedule vs 8) and it's also a fact that the PAC-12 teams play more P5 opponents on average year in and year out than their SEC counterparts. We all know why the ACC & SEC teams are too chickenshit to play their own conference members.

LOL, that's only true for those conferences who win more games than they lose against OOC opponents. That's not always the case with the Pac-12, you're 80-72 versus P5's this decade and 38-36 in the last 5. You are also 5-12 against the SEC, so instead of bitching about who we play, you should be glad it isn't you.

 

[Rolltide94]

If we lack testosterone, you clowns are on an estrogen IV drip between tossed salads.

 

[miah]

Of course we can name everybody in our league. We know who is in the ACC and we know who is in the SEC.
Our problem is believing that P5 football is actually played on the West Coast. (Even if only by name)

Imma leave this right here...

 

[Gatorchip]

I love it when people try to justify why the ACC & SEC lack the testicles to play their own conference members while playing less P5 opponents on average compared to the other three P5 conferences.

You mean justification like saying the PAC schedule strength sucks because they play more in-conference opponents?

 

[miah]

The last time FSU played a west coast team ...

Damn it! PAC speed.

 

[Rolltide94]

Damn it! PAC speed.

How come nobody posts either of the other Pac-12 playoff games?

 

[BamaDude]

Yeah it does. It gives you an extra bye week. You don't need a bye week at the start of the season but towards
the end.

Leagues also base their schedules around its teams OOC games. That pretty much forces the league to give you
an open date somewhere in the middle of the season.

The problem for the PAC12 is, there just aren't as many FCS schools out West as there is in the East. Plus they end
their season a week before FBS to make room for their first round playoff games. It'll be hard trying to find
FCS schools, out west to ply in November and to get one from the East you'd have to guarantee them over a
million to make the trip.

There's more than a dozen FCS schools in the Big Sky Conference, alone; so that's enough for each Pac-12 school to schedule one per season on a rotating basis. Dixie St. (Utah) is also moving up from D-II to FCS in the near future.

But I believe the Pac's line of thinking is if they are going to lose to an FCS opponent, they'd rather do it at the start of the season so the rest of the college football world will have forgotten about it by the time bowl season rolls around.

 

[BamaDude]

What conference has 16 teams and who has a 12 year rotation? Pretty sure no conference has more than 14 and the longest rotation is once every 6 years. But please let me know what I am missing.

Conference USA has 16 teams, but no Power-5 conference does.

 

[BamaDude]

Still doesn't change the fact that BYU is not a P5 team.

I realize that some leagues and/or individual schools may regard BYU as a P-5 team, but in most cases, they don't stand up. My definition of a P-5 school would be one that plays at least 50% of its schedule against other P-5 teams. BYU hasn't done that for a long time; but they do have a couple of future schedules that would qualify them.

 

[7Samurai13]

Conference USA has 16 teams, but no Power-5 conference does.

I stand corrected

 

[BamaDude]

First question - yes. Personally, I would like scheduling being taken away from the schools and be systematized on a rotating basis on where teams finished in their respective conference (that would require all conferences having the same number of teams though). But I also think that conference realignment should be taken away too. Say two games, leave the other noncon for tradtional noncon rivalries (i.e. Notre Dame games).

Second question - I would also like it if FBS teams stopped scheduling FCS opponents.

Third question - I thought the Big Ten was supposed to stop playing FCS opponents as well, but some teams still are playing them. Perhaps they were already scheduled/contracted.

MSU plays Youngstown St in 2021.
Nebraska plays South Dakota St and North Dakota quite a bit in upcoming years.
Penn St has Delaware and Villanova scheduled.
Rutgers has Monmouth and Delaware scheduled.
Maryland has Towson and Yougnstown st scheduled.
Indiana has Idaho and Indiana St scheduled.
Wisconsin has Southern Illinois and South Dakota scheduled.
Purdue has Indiana St scheduled.
Northwestern has South Dakota St and Southern Illinois scheduled.
Minnesota has Western Illinois scheduled.
Iowa has Northern Iowa and South Dakota St scheduled.

When is this 'no FCS' supposed to take affect? These are scheduled out through like 2026 (guesstimating).

You must have missed the announcement a year or two ago that Big 10 teams are still allowed to schedule FCS teams in the years they only have 4 conference home games.

 

[BoiseStateFan27]

It would be an absolute shame if they did, the Pac-12 deserves a lot of credit for their tough non-conference scheduling their teams will play anyone anywhere

However, the receive no credit for this and the committee doesn't seem to care that the SEC and ACC have conference members that go half a decade without facing each other and play FCS opponents in November.

At this point if they won't change the other conferences might be forced to adjust. The facts are the SEC and ACCs scheduling policies are what they are and neither league has missed the playoff yet, the Pac-12 might be forced to adjust